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NOW let's compare "apples to apples" [Obama birth certificate controvery, part 2]
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| 6/22/08
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Posted on 06/23/2008 3:45:52 PM PDT by freespirited
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To: Bubbette
The only answer I have for the differences is that there are 30 years between the two documents. Thirty years between the births, true. But not thirty years between the documents. Both are certified (or purport to be certified) copies. And both were produced subsequent to November, 2001.
In that respect, the code in the lower LH-corner -- OHSM 1.1 (Rev. 11/01) LASER -- tells you that both were printed using the same computer format that was approved effective November, 2001.
Accordingly, there can't be more than seven years difference in the age of the documents.
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posted on
06/23/2008 4:10:09 PM PDT
by
okie01
(THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
To: freespirited
So, what is the dispute that is being resolved here? That Obama was not a Live Birth?
22
posted on
06/23/2008 4:13:30 PM PDT
by
varon
(Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
To: Bobalu
The birth certificate thing does not concern me. The only reason they made the rule that only native born Americans could become president was to keep members of the British Royal family from trying to run. The fact that he is a Marxist is what concerns me. Could you be any dumber? Or could you have made a stupider statement? Highly doubtful. You don't care that he might not meet one of the requirements to be President of the USA? What in the He** is the matter with you? You want to keep a Marxist out of the White House then you use the law to stop him. If he is not a US born citizen then he can't run, simple as that and to say it doesn't matter to you tells me you are either a troll or extremely stupid, period.
23
posted on
06/23/2008 4:13:55 PM PDT
by
calex59
To: freespirited
This seems like a reach to me, the Clintons would have smoked this out if it were true.
24
posted on
06/23/2008 4:14:57 PM PDT
by
wastedpotential
(McCain says I am an agent of intolerance, he's right - I can't tolerate liberal Republicans!)
To: freespirited
25
posted on
06/23/2008 4:15:50 PM PDT
by
Kirkwood
(Ask me again tomorrow.)
To: freespirited
1930?
Hawaii wasn’t even a state in 1930.
It was in 1961.
I’m sure everything “official” changed after that
To: freespirited
I haven’t followed this as closely as many- but with all the talk about the comparisons between the two types of paper I’m wondering if the background might be similar-but different from 1930 to 1961?
Obviously it’s not the SAME- but perhaps the state changed the background over the years?
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posted on
06/23/2008 4:18:33 PM PDT
by
SE Mom
(Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
To: freespirited
I’ve gotta forward this on to some non-freepers. Thank you.
28
posted on
06/23/2008 4:19:12 PM PDT
by
lilylangtree
(Veni, Vidi, Vici)
To: ikka
Does his being illegitimate somehow affect his citizenship?
To: ClearCase_guy
He wouldn't have this out there if the alternative were harmless. I disagree.
Like Larry Sinclair, this is a strawman. A set-up. A diversion.
And if you make a valid point ("he has no experience"), you will be lumped in with the rest ("there are people attacking me because they believe that I was involved with a male prostitute, that I wasn't born in this country, that I don't have enough experience, or that I'm black...") and your valid point will be lost.
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posted on
06/23/2008 4:21:57 PM PDT
by
kidd
To: SE Mom
These are modern certified certificates of birth, they are not original birth documents. They were requested sometime after 2005.
-PJ
31
posted on
06/23/2008 4:26:10 PM PDT
by
Political Junkie Too
(Repeal the 17th amendment -- it's the "Fairness Doctrine" for Congress!)
To: William Tell
...and, it’s still a non issue
32
posted on
06/23/2008 4:26:24 PM PDT
by
devane617
(we are so screwed)
To: ValerieTexas
And wasn’t Hawaii a State in 1961?
Wouldn’t that mean that Nobamasiah would have been a natural born citizen even if his parents weren’t?
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posted on
06/23/2008 4:26:35 PM PDT
by
Right Cal Gal
(Abraham Lincoln would have let Berkeley leave the Union without a fight)
To: freespirited
I worry about the 31 year difference between these two documents. I didn’t see that addressed nor acknowledged.
34
posted on
06/23/2008 4:29:53 PM PDT
by
ReleaseTheHounds
("The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.")
To: ReleaseTheHounds
Me too- see # 27 and answer # 31
35
posted on
06/23/2008 4:33:39 PM PDT
by
SE Mom
(Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
Comment #36 Removed by Moderator
To: ReleaseTheHounds
Surprising that it doesn’t have the “footprint.” My birth certificate had my footprint. Anyone else’s.
Are these abstracts created from the genuine birth certificate for legal purposes?
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posted on
06/23/2008 4:35:31 PM PDT
by
Right Cal Gal
(Abraham Lincoln would have let Berkeley leave the Union without a fight)
To: freespirited
Hey, the birth certificate is as genuine as his Presidential Seal.
To: Right Cal Gal
mine has a foot print too, but it does not match my current right....
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posted on
06/23/2008 4:40:12 PM PDT
by
devane617
(we are so screwed)
To: cahome
You proove yourself to be an absolute idiot with an IQ of 70 by saying that I support Barack Obama the socialist and the defeatist. The thing that I am smart enough to know what is required to defeat someone like Obama and it is not the stupidity about his Birth Certificate. I can comment on any thread I want to comment on.
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posted on
06/23/2008 4:40:45 PM PDT
by
jveritas
(God Bless President Bush and our brave troops)
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