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Two U.S. Soldiers Killed as Iraqi Council Member Opens Fire After Meeting
The Washington Post ^ | June 24, 2008 | Ernesto Londoņo

Posted on 06/23/2008 10:17:16 PM PDT by forkinsocket

BAGHDAD, June 23 -- Two U.S. soldiers were killed and three were wounded Monday when a council member opened fire on them after a meeting in a small town south of Baghdad, the U.S. military said.

An Iraqi interpreter also was wounded in the shooting in Salman Pak Nahia, which is about 20 miles south of Baghdad, said Capt. Charles Calio, a U.S. military spokesman.

Two Salman Pak residents identified the assailant, who was killed, as council member Raed Hmood Ajil.

Residents Rafi Suleiman, 39, and Abu Dawood said in phone interviews that Ajil, a Sunni tribal leader, opened fire on the soldiers without provocation.

Suleiman said the soldiers were in town for the opening of a park built with U.S. funds.

Also Monday, the U.S. military announced that a Canadian man working as an interpreter for the U.S. military in Iraq was sentenced to five months of confinement after pleading guilty in the stabbing of a colleague in February.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iraq; islam; killed; raedhmoodajil; salmanpak; soldiers
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1 posted on 06/23/2008 10:17:16 PM PDT by forkinsocket
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To: forkinsocket; SandRat; kristinn

May God look over those who sacrificed all and allow them into His Kingdom, and may He look over the families of those killed. Amen.


2 posted on 06/23/2008 10:21:13 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: forkinsocket

I imagine the DemocRAT buffoons in Congress will now demand one of their specialty “hearings” be conducted to see if Raed Hmood Ajil’s U.S. Constitutional rights were violated when he was killed.


3 posted on 06/23/2008 10:22:10 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (De-Globalize yourself !)
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To: forkinsocket
Dang!

Prayers for them and theirs.

4 posted on 06/23/2008 10:25:11 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck)
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To: Thunder90

Agreeing with you, in Jesus’ Holy Name, Amen


5 posted on 06/23/2008 10:26:24 PM PDT by skr (I serve a risen Savior!)
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To: forkinsocket

News from Iraq. It’s been a while.


6 posted on 06/23/2008 10:30:53 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Given such dismal choices, I guess I'll vote for the old guy.)
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To: forkinsocket

Was his dumb ass killed in return?


7 posted on 06/23/2008 10:33:00 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Without the second, the rest are just politicians' BS.)
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To: Steely Tom
Was his dumb ass killed in return?

Two Salman Pak residents identified the assailant, who was killed, as council member Raed Hmood Ajil.

8 posted on 06/23/2008 10:37:35 PM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: Steely Tom
Killed?

MOAB his entire village.

I am so sick of this crap.

If they don't fear consequences for their cowardice and murders, then they will continue their terrorism.

That is the way Mohammed founded this cult, and that is the way it shall always be with these people.

Mohammedanism is rife with corruption, violence, theft, murder, rape and destruction.

Brute force is the only way to keep them under control.

Even Saddam Hussein knew that.

9 posted on 06/23/2008 10:46:16 PM PDT by Prole (Pray for the families of Chris and Channon.)
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To: Allegra; jveritas

Ping.


10 posted on 06/23/2008 10:54:57 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Look at all the candidates. Choose who you think is best. Choose wisely in 2008.)
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To: Pontiac
Where are the journalists with the integrity and courage to tell the truth?

Thanks. I made my comment before taking the time to read the whole depressing story.

11 posted on 06/23/2008 10:55:11 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Without the second, the rest are just politicians' BS.)
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To: Steely Tom; forkinsocket

I am curious about the council member motive. He had to know that his chances of survival were zero.


12 posted on 06/23/2008 11:04:09 PM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: Thunder90; Ultra Sonic 007
May God look over those who sacrificed all and allow them into His Kingdom, and may He look over the families of those killed. Amen.

Joining you in that prayer. Amen.

13 posted on 06/23/2008 11:05:06 PM PDT by Allegra (If you lived here, you'd be home by now.)
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To: Thunder90

Yes and shame on those who are going on repeating that this war was and is “UNNECESSARY” ie that these brave soldiers are useless and dying for nothing.

I would like to ask to a wanabe POTUS whose name begin with O what is, according to him, a “NECESSARY” war.

Looking for the votes of the anti-war crowds doesn’t justify such a treason


14 posted on 06/23/2008 11:05:12 PM PDT by Ulysse
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To: forkinsocket

I’m thinking things didn’t go this guy’s way during the meeting. What a senseless way to blow off steam, or commit suicide.

My sympathies go out to the family and friends of these men.

I know some folks will say that a MOAB should be used on the perp’s family, but I think other Iraqis are probably upset about this also.

It’s just a senseless thing to do, take the lives of people who are trying to help build a better nation and community for your people.


15 posted on 06/23/2008 11:27:04 PM PDT by DoughtyOne ( I say no to the Hillary Clinton wing of the Republican party. Not now or ever, John McCain...)
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To: Pontiac
I am curious about the council member motive. He had to know that his chances of survival were zero.

Sudden jihad syndrome?

16 posted on 06/24/2008 1:22:00 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: rogue yam
Sudden jihad syndrome?

Oh yah! That’s the ticket!

I hate it when that happens!

17 posted on 06/24/2008 1:33:00 AM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: Pontiac

“I am curious about the council member motive. He had to know that his chances of survival were zero.”

Current low U.S. troop death rate (God bless them) is the measure of our victory. Given this and the fact that killing U.S. troops has become so difficult, the demand for for it has gone way up and a move like this is the only way these worthless dogs can have any chance of slowing our success.


18 posted on 06/24/2008 2:44:02 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Liberalism is service to the self disguised as service to others.)
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To: Prole
MOAB his entire village. I am so sick of this crap. If they don't fear consequences for their cowardice and murders, then they will continue their terrorism.

His entire village would include Rafi Suleiman, Abu Dawood, and a lot of people who are working side by side with us against terrorists and baathist hardliners. Wiping out his village would do us far more harm than it could ever do him.

19 posted on 06/24/2008 2:52:21 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: Prole
"Brute force is the only way to keep them under control."

It is and has always been the only way to deal with these savages, Any attempt at reconciliation is viewed as weakness and only drives them to further acts of violence.

20 posted on 06/24/2008 3:19:14 AM PDT by lexusppd
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To: forkinsocket

Prayers for the soldiers and their families. This incident reminds us that there is still a war on, and that we must be vigilant.


21 posted on 06/24/2008 3:27:27 AM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: Steely Tom
Thanks. I made my comment before taking the time to read the whole depressing story.

What? The 3rd sentence? [/s]

22 posted on 06/24/2008 3:31:40 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: Pontiac

His “motive” was to become a martyr and take “dirty Americans” with him, as he now enjoys 72 Virgins.

Rationalize with that thought.

It’s time to stop this insanity, world-wide.


23 posted on 06/24/2008 3:36:15 AM PDT by Shady (The Fairness Doctrine is ANYTHING but fair!!!!)
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To: Jeff Chandler
scrolling across the bottom of MSNBC screen is “violence in Iraq down 80%”, while Meeka sighs and wrings her hands about this terrible breaking news.
24 posted on 06/24/2008 3:46:24 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ('GOP' : Get Our Petroleum)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Like she gives a “bleep”.


25 posted on 06/24/2008 4:07:41 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: Jeff Chandler
News from Iraq. It’s been a while.

The press had to wait for something bad to happen.

26 posted on 06/24/2008 4:16:25 AM PDT by 50sDad (OBAMA: In your heart you know he's Wright.)
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To: DoughtyOne
What a senseless way to blow off steam, or commit suicide.

Their culture teaches that life is meaningless, and has little worth, I guess.

27 posted on 06/24/2008 4:17:55 AM PDT by 50sDad (OBAMA: In your heart you know he's Wright.)
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To: forkinsocket
Maybe it is time to just nuke the entire effing middle east.

Does any man over there NOT have a Napoleonic complex?

Jackasses.

28 posted on 06/24/2008 4:26:06 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (If Hillary is elected, her legacy will be telling the American people: Better put some ice on that.)
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To: Prole

Yep. We need to kill these demented, cowardly bastards in very large numbers.


29 posted on 06/24/2008 4:27:26 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (If Hillary is elected, her legacy will be telling the American people: Better put some ice on that.)
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To: TornadoAlley3
...while Meeka sighs and wrings her hands about this terrible breaking news.

She was just sad because it wasn't a bigger body count. These lefty media types are sickening in their pray for bad news because it sells attitude.

30 posted on 06/24/2008 5:35:46 AM PDT by McGruff (This is not the [insert name here] I knew.)
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To: Shady

It’s a hundred virgins. Martyrs also enjoy the attentions of 28 prepubescent boys.

There really is no end to the evil of the Death-Cult. If Satan were to invent a religion, I cannot conceive a way in which Islam would differ from it.


31 posted on 06/24/2008 6:18:36 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: Prole

Er, that would kill quite a lot of people who have nothing at all to do with terrorism. Personally, I’d rather not adopt such tactics in this war.


32 posted on 06/24/2008 6:31:22 AM PDT by mquinn (Obama's supporters: a deliberate drowning of consciousness by means of rhythmic noise)
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To: Pontiac

His mission was accomplished: another martyr for Islam. Sick.


33 posted on 06/24/2008 6:39:00 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: Prole

“MOAB his entire village.”

Stupid comment of the day...


34 posted on 06/24/2008 6:39:29 AM PDT by elfman2 ("As goes Fallujah, so goes Central Iraq and so goes the entire country" -Col Coleman, USMC ,4/2004)
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To: Steely Tom

If you could have gotten as far as the third sentence, you could have saved yourself a post.


35 posted on 06/24/2008 7:03:23 AM PDT by toddlintown (My kingdom for a beer!)
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To: lexusppd

If that is the case, we should have kept saddam in power.


36 posted on 06/24/2008 7:09:44 AM PDT by Philly Nomad
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To: forkinsocket

Could it come to...the media actually hiring “hit men” to kill American troops, just so they have “bad news” to publish? You really can’t misunderestimate how much the MSM hates the President and how deep they are in the pocket of the Socialist party and their candidate, Obama.

It wouldn’t surprise me at all to hear of a U.S. Military
investigation that reveals that a “journalist” was “involved” or “set up” or “cooperated” in the death of a member of the military. Really not too far from the post-Vietnam “journalism” discussion on public TV where an American journalist stated he would not warn Americans if they were walking into an ambush.


37 posted on 06/24/2008 7:15:14 AM PDT by LZ_Bayonet (There's Always Something.............And there's always something worse!)
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To: Pontiac

Good thing they got him before he was re-elected and given amnesty.


38 posted on 06/24/2008 7:24:51 AM PDT by omega4179 (Last year, Gore's home burned through 213,210 kWh of electricity,)
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To: rogue yam
Sudden jihad syndrome?

In the U.S. we call it suicide by cop.

39 posted on 06/24/2008 7:34:11 AM PDT by usurper (Spelling or grammatical errors in this post can be attributed to the LA City School System)
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To: mquinn
"Moab his entire village"

Er, that would kill quite a lot of people who have nothing at all to do with terrorism

...thereby automatically creating more anti-American terrorist jihadists, probably out of people who had not seriously considered the option prior to the MOAB. Slippery slope, when you're trying to gain trust and rebuild a nation.

40 posted on 06/24/2008 7:54:22 AM PDT by RepublitarianRoger2
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To: forkinsocket

I Pray for the families and the salvation of our Soldiers.

Here’s the puzzling thing, and the contradiction in all of this...

If a woman “embarrasses or shames” her family, they stone and stab her to death, lest the family be stoned and stabbed, right?

Why don’t they do the same to men who murder, rape, and (by their culture/Religion) blasphemy Mohammad? Or, their families? Can men do no wrong by their Religion?

This is the big lie, the two faced hypocrisy, and outright fraud of what they are, who they are, and their so called “beliefs”.


41 posted on 06/24/2008 8:03:39 AM PDT by papasmurf
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To: Philly Nomad

If yours is a serious statement then you need serious help.


42 posted on 06/24/2008 9:25:04 AM PDT by lexusppd
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To: lexusppd

You are the one who called them savages, why in the hell should we risk our soldier’s lives for ungrateful savages?


43 posted on 06/24/2008 9:33:29 AM PDT by Philly Nomad
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To: Philly Nomad

“You are the one who called them savages, why in the hell should we risk our soldier’s lives for ungrateful savages?”


We are currently arming and training a modern military of 180,000 Iraqi “savages” at US taxpayer expense and doing the same thing in Afghanistan.


44 posted on 06/24/2008 9:45:38 AM PDT by jamese777
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To: Philly Nomad

I called them savages because they are. The soldiers are risking their lives to stop them from killing all of US. That’s what the military does, it fights on behalf of US.

LOL, you probably think we shouldn’t have had our soldiers fight in WW2 either, right? After all the Japs tortured our troops didn’t they? Just when should our military be turned loose on an enemy, after we determine they are really NICE guys?


45 posted on 06/24/2008 9:48:32 AM PDT by lexusppd
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To: Prole

This seems not to be a terrorist attack. The W-Compost is leaving out the details. Ajil, a former high school principal, recently arrived from India where he earned a Masters Degree. Was friendly with U.S. troops and had no issues working with them. His family said he suffered from depression and epilepsy.


46 posted on 06/24/2008 11:11:56 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Prole

I agree that these people need to learn not to attack our people and should pay dearly for their attacks!


47 posted on 06/24/2008 1:12:24 PM PDT by thebaron512
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To: thebaron512

In Israel, I believe they level the home of the terrorist. This seems like a good idea.
AAT - Meeka is such a pain in the ass, I can’t even watch. Does she still interrupt opinions that she agrees with by making that annoying umhmmm umhmmm under her breath..damn thats annoying. Anybody remember Margaret Grey (Phil Hendrie) on the radio? Anyway, Margaret (Phil) did the same thing.


48 posted on 06/24/2008 3:17:18 PM PDT by Selmore (Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.)
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To: mquinn

“Er, that would kill quite a lot of people who have nothing at all to do with terrorism. Personally, I’d rather not adopt such tactics in this war.”

Nothing to do with terrorism except that most of them buy into the same ideology because it’s what their religion teaches. There were plenty of clerks and other support personnel that worked for the nazis who didn’t engage in combat or killing. Many of them bought into the same ideology though and many of them paid the price for it. Half a million german civilians. I have to believe that at-least some of those germans did not buy into the nazi ideas but it was more beneficial to end the war as quickly as possible than to try to win over as many hearts and minds as possible.


49 posted on 06/24/2008 3:18:49 PM PDT by LaurenD
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To: RepublitarianRoger2

“...thereby automatically creating more anti-American terrorist jihadists, probably out of people who had not seriously considered the option prior to the MOAB. Slippery slope, when you’re trying to gain trust and rebuild a nation.”

Yes, this is the lesson learned after we dropped the atomic bombs on Japan and created all those japanese terrorists who decided to hate us even more, even the ones that hadn’t considered the option prior to the A-bombs.

By your logic, we should never fight any wars at all, after-all, we might make people mad at us.


50 posted on 06/24/2008 3:22:55 PM PDT by LaurenD
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