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Dr. Dobson, Barack Obama and this ‘Catholic Moment’
Catholic Online ^ | 6/25/08 | Deacon keith Fournier

Posted on 06/24/2008 6:07:58 PM PDT by tcg

Now it begins.

The Senator from Illinois, Barack Obama, has begun his outreach to faith based voters. Dr. James Dobson, a respected voice within the evangelical protestant community and beyond, has engaged the debate.

The media is screaming “Bible Wars”.

What is this all about? What does it mean for Catholic Christians? How should we respond?

As someone who has had the privilege of meeting Dr Dobson, I have great respect for the wonderful work he is doing and has done for the “poorest of the poor”, children in the first home of the whole human race, their mothers womb. I consider him to be one of the great defenders of true marriage and the family founded upon it.

However, I am deeply concerned at the damage that this entire new front in the election of 2008 might cause if not properly approached.

Dr. Dobson, legitimately utilizing his radio pulpit, is raising some serious questions concerning the Democratic Presidential candidate’s efforts to garner the support of evangelical Protestants and other Christians. He is also no fan of the nominee of the other Party...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; bible; dncfalseprophets; dobson; falsemessiah; falseprophets; obama
This first volley between Dr. Dobson and Senator Obama marks a turn in the public debate in this campaign season.
1 posted on 06/24/2008 6:07:59 PM PDT by tcg
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To: tcg
"What does it mean for Catholic Christians? How should we respond?"

What kind of a fool asks such stupid questions?

As a confirmed Catholic and conventional American, I am with Dr. Dobson.

Obama is evil and hatred personified, and he represents a nasty perversion which threatens everything great about our Nation.

2 posted on 06/24/2008 6:20:23 PM PDT by Prole (Pray for the families of Chris and Channon.)
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To: tcg

I miss the point of the article. He seems to be in full agreement with Dobson, but yet is critical of Dobson’s method. I am not sure what he thinks Dobson did wrong.


3 posted on 06/24/2008 6:26:36 PM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: tcg
How should we respond?

The same we always do. By kicking @ss in the marketplace of ideas.

4 posted on 06/24/2008 6:26:46 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (the media vs. the people.)
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To: Prole

Expose him for the pro abortion candidate he is. No real Catholic could possibly ever vote for a candidate who avocates allowing abortion survivors to die alone with no medical care knowing that that is his position.


5 posted on 06/24/2008 6:51:00 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: tcg

Obama absolutely LOVES abortion. So, Deacon Fournier, forget about it. Real Evangelicals and real Catholics can agree that he is NOT a real Christian in any meaningful sense.


6 posted on 06/24/2008 6:53:17 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: tcg
"Even if we did have only Christians in our midst, if we expelled every non-Christian from the United States of America, whose Christianity would we teach in the schools?" Obama said. "Would we go with James Dobson's or Al Sharpton's?" referring to the civil rights leader.

That is what Obama said in his speech that caused Dr. Dobson to react. If you listened to the pig bladders that pass for the press, you would think that Dobson's comments were gratuitous. I'd be annoyed if my name were used in the same sentence as Tawana Brawley good buddy Sharpton's.

7 posted on 06/24/2008 6:53:32 PM PDT by Stentor (Obama supporters. Letting the little void do the thinking for the big void.)
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To: chris_bdba

I agree, but just how would you propose getting this info out … the MSM won’t do it?


8 posted on 06/24/2008 6:55:51 PM PDT by doc1019 (I was taught to respect my elders, but it's getting harder to find one.)
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To: chris_bdba

Our Governor Sibileus has spread it far and wide that she’s
“in charge” of Obama’s Catholic outreach. Even though our Bishop has asked her not to take Communion and her political sponsor is a late-term abortionist. Maybe Obama just assigned her a little wedge of the nonpracticing pie to keep her busy.


9 posted on 06/24/2008 6:57:39 PM PDT by Kanzan
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To: Prole

Bump what you said... with you all the way....


10 posted on 06/24/2008 7:17:08 PM PDT by antceecee (where do from here Ollie?.)
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To: Always Right
His argument is that we can't use the scriptures to guide a polition, we have to use Natural Law.

"It is only by insisting and proposing once again that there is a Natural Law which can be known, and which ought to inform our own attempts at self governance that we can hope to build a truly just society."

This is a bizarre point of view to come from a religious author. How can one know Natural Law, except from an understanding of the scriptures? Without the scriptures, liberals will create their own version of Natural Law?

11 posted on 06/24/2008 8:05:32 PM PDT by aimhigh
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To: tcg
What does it mean for Catholic Christians? How should we respond?

Obama's radical position on abortion anytime, anywhere and for any reason is all any Christian has to know.

12 posted on 06/24/2008 8:17:08 PM PDT by Vigilanteman ((Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud))
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To: tcg
As a "Catholic Christian" (I hate that term. I'm Catholic. It goes without saying that I'm Christian.) Here's my response to this article:


13 posted on 06/24/2008 8:23:03 PM PDT by Antoninus (Every second spent bashing McCain is time that could be spent helping Conservatives downticket.)
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To: Antoninus

WOW, that nails it!


14 posted on 06/24/2008 8:40:37 PM PDT by Atchafalaya
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To: doc1019

I would love to see a list of all of the abortion bills he voted for along the way with dates included so a flyer could be made and put on the cars in the parking lot of mass! I could see a photo of him with an abortion quote from him with the list of bills he’s voted for.


15 posted on 06/24/2008 8:40:46 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: chris_bdba
"No real Catholic could possibly ever vote for a candidate who avocates allowing abortion survivors to die alone with no medical care knowing that that is his position."

Don't kid yourself. Do you want to know how many Obama bumper stickers there are in my parish's parking lot during any mass? Just go to any Catholic church on Sunday morning and count for yourself. I wish the American bishops had the moral courage of Dr. Dobson and would remind voters to examine the spiritual issues and vote accordingly.

16 posted on 06/25/2008 3:33:58 AM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law; chris_bdba

I’ve also seen several OBAMA stickers at my Catholic church parking lot. I’m not sure what these “Catholics” are thinking.


17 posted on 06/25/2008 8:29:31 AM PDT by jaydubya2
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