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CNN & HAVANNA JOURNAL: China and India to drill for Cuban oil off Florida keys in Gulf of Mexico
HAVANNA JOURNAL (with CNN) ^ | May 11, 2006 | Havanna Journal Staff

Posted on 06/24/2008 10:03:47 PM PDT by Moseley

Plans for foreign oil companies, some from India and China, to drill off the cost of Cuba are prompting calls from lawmakers to ease environmental restrictions that prohibit coastal drilling in most of the U.S., according to a report Tuesday.



TOPICS: Cuba; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: china; cuba; energy; offshoredrilling; oil
Liberals attacked Dick Chene, when Cheney mentioned this story. Liberals claimed that Cheney as wrong. However, CNN and the Havanna Journal reported this story 2 years ago.
1 posted on 06/24/2008 10:03:47 PM PDT by Moseley
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To: Moseley

Bump


2 posted on 06/24/2008 10:10:50 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: Moseley

The offshore drilling ban has been in effect since the Reagan Administration and has not been overturned by either Democrat or Republican Administrations or Congresses. The ban must be lifted ASAP.


3 posted on 06/24/2008 10:24:17 PM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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To: Moseley

I wonder if Florida will figure out that $4 gasoline stops a lot more tourists from driving to the beach than does the sight of an oil rig.


4 posted on 06/24/2008 10:29:44 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Moseley

“legislators are fuming that Cuba is opening up its continental shelf for oil and gas exploration while most of the U.S. continental shelf outside the Gulf of Mexico, which extends 200 miles from shore”

well, duh again - thank the democrats for still, currently resisting and voting against offshore (and Anwar) drilling -b. hussein obama being a vocal one. why are they “fuming” when they have the power to change it???

I do note and appreciate a previous poster’s point that historically, it’s been resisted by both parties, but in light of our present, potentially disastrous situation, it’s NOW the fault of our currently democrat-controlled
legislature that we’re STILL not being allowed to right this wrong. They just say No, No, No but offer no practical solutions.


5 posted on 06/24/2008 10:47:41 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: Moseley

Noted that Larry Craig has taken up this issue. What is his STANCE on the problem?


6 posted on 06/24/2008 10:52:03 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Southack

“But critics of more drilling say the energy obtained, which they say would be minimal and wouldn’t bring down prices that much, isn’t worth the environmental risks. They also say more drilling for a finite resource does nothing to promote long term conservation solutions.”

Of course, we need to do it all, put in place long-term solutions, but most immediately, do what is most expedient and beneficial now. Environmental risks? - no more danger than it’s always been. AND, have they all forgotten that the reason we acquired Alaska in the first place was because of its resources???? helloooo.


7 posted on 06/24/2008 10:55:44 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: Moseley

There is one advatage to letting the Chicoms drill... their rigs would be excellent fodder for SEAL training.


8 posted on 06/25/2008 3:05:08 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A SOCIALIST WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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To: Southack

excellent point


9 posted on 06/25/2008 3:35:17 AM PDT by t1b8zs
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To: Moseley

I can’t remember a group of posted articles making me this mad, this early in the morning. The corruption in Congress is unbelievable. I wish someone could do a real audit of Schumer’s net worth. These obstructionist dirt are unbelievable. When you get tired of that you can read about every thing obam has ever been affiliated with is either racist, corrupt or communistic. Then go read the article about how every thing we do is capable of being tracked by marketers.

Better give up and go make coffee, Starbucks if anyone asks.


10 posted on 06/25/2008 3:43:34 AM PDT by Misschuck
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To: snowrip
There is one advatage to letting the Chicoms drill...

As for the expanse of ocean between Fla. and Cuba, we have no choice. Carter approved most of that expanse as an exclusive Cuban Economic Zone back in 1977.....

11 posted on 06/25/2008 3:49:35 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: Moseley

“legislators are fuming that Cuba is opening up its continental shelf for oil and gas exploration “

Jeez, just rename Washington to “New Brussels” and let’s become part of the EU.

DRILL!! COMPETE!!


12 posted on 06/25/2008 4:25:39 AM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: PGR88

A very WIDE stance and yes ,,,,, he is an A$$hole. Note he was not for offshore drilling but for giving the oil companies a way to bypass the cuban embargo. Typical moron politician ... of cours he doesn’t have to offend his environmentalist friends this way


13 posted on 06/25/2008 4:33:36 AM PDT by HiramQuick (work harder ... welfare recipients depend on you!)
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To: Moseley

Traitorous politicians have a firm choke hold on this country.


14 posted on 06/25/2008 4:36:36 AM PDT by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: Southack

Ding ding ding ding ding....


15 posted on 06/25/2008 4:37:19 AM PDT by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: Southack

“I wonder if Florida will figure out that $4 gasoline stops a lot more tourists from driving to the beach than does the sight of an oil rig.”

...took the words right outta my mouth.


16 posted on 06/25/2008 4:39:18 AM PDT by OldBlondBabe
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To: Misschuck

Stopping here for my first cup, and a sanity break.


17 posted on 06/25/2008 4:39:46 AM PDT by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: Moseley

we should go drill there too


18 posted on 06/25/2008 4:43:46 AM PDT by The Wizard (DemonRATS: enemies of America)
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To: Moseley
I think this CHINA/CUBA drilling story is a falsehood initiated by George Will (who was repeated by Cheney).

Read about that here and here.

19 posted on 06/25/2008 4:48:28 AM PDT by GreenAccord (Bacon Akbar!)
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To: Moseley

Hey, this can’t be right. I heard Florida Senator Mel Martinez tell us on the Boortz Show that the Chinese are NOT drilling off Florida. Who could doubt a US Senator? They know everything, just ask them.


20 posted on 06/25/2008 4:56:14 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Friends don't let friends buy into Dem propaganda.)
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To: GreenAccord; Moseley
"falsehood initiated by George Will"

To be more accurate, a falsehood perpetuated by George Will.

This mis-info began in 2006 when the GOP was moving to pass the GOM Energy Security Act of 2006 to open drilling in that region known as Area 181. This was done to counter any negative public opinion in Florida to that legislation.

Now that the GOP is going to try use gas prices and offshore drilling as a campaign issue, they tried to bring back the China story.

All this just discredits the GOP and prevents them from telling the actual facts.

Cuba has leased numerous deepwater blocks in the North Cuba Basin to oil companies from 7 different nations and Petrobras will begin drilling in 2009. China is not one of them.

21 posted on 06/25/2008 7:02:09 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

Well said. Thanks for the clarification.


22 posted on 06/25/2008 7:10:53 AM PDT by GreenAccord (Bacon Akbar!)
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To: Jabba the Nutt

Jabba the Nutt quipped: “Hey, this can’t be right. I heard Florida Senator Mel Martinez tell us on the Boortz Show that the Chinese are NOT drilling off Florida.”

Moseley: The libs are playing games with words. This is “It depends on what the meaning of “is” is.”

The question is whether China+Cuba “ARE” physcially drilling already, or whether they are just “ABOUT” to start drilling any minute now. There is no question they are going to drill. But a lot of work goes into drilling before they actually start.


23 posted on 06/27/2008 4:04:24 AM PDT by Moseley (http://www.TheBidenQuiz.com)
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To: Southack

SOUTHACK WON A GOLD STAR IN MY BOOK WITH: “I wonder if Florida will figure out that $4 gasoline stops a lot more tourists from driving to the beach than does the sight of an oil rig.”

Me: BINGO! Excellent point. How many families are going to drive to Florida with the kids burning $4 gasoline? High gasoline prices directly threaten Florida’s tourism.

By the way, you reflect the assumptions being made in the public discussion: YOU CAN’T SEE the oil rigs from the beach !!!

You can only see 20 miles to the horizon. Oil rigs will be 100 to 200 miles away. You won’ tbe able to see them. Cuba + China are going to drill as close as 45 miles to the edge of the Florida Keys. Even those won’t be visible from any land in Florida.

As to fishing, any good fisherman knows that smaller fish seek the protection of ANY structure, and bigger fish hang around trying to eat them.

ANY structure in the open ocean, anything as minor as a patch of seaweed, is a prime target for catching fish.


24 posted on 06/27/2008 4:08:06 AM PDT by Moseley (http://www.TheBidenQuiz.com)
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To: Ben Ficklin

With the small problem in Ben Ficklin’s argument that China’s drilling plans were reported in the HAVANNA JOURNAL.


25 posted on 06/27/2008 4:09:15 AM PDT by Moseley (http://www.TheBidenQuiz.com)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Hot Tabasco WROTE: “As for the expanse of ocean between Fla. and Cuba, we have no choice. Carter approved most of that expanse as an exclusive Cuban Economic Zone back in 1977..... “

Moseley: And when US companies drill in the Gulf, they pay a ROYALTY to the Government for the oil they extract. But, thanks to Carter, when China extracts this same oil from the same Gulf, we get nothing.


26 posted on 06/27/2008 4:11:46 AM PDT by Moseley (http://www.TheBidenQuiz.com)
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To: Moseley
People get in an uproar over oil rigs that can't be seen but don't mention the ecological disaster of tires used as man made reefs.

Fort Lauderdale on the Atlantic and other spots in the Gulf have tire reefs that are going to cost millions to remove. They have actually destroyed marine habitats.

27 posted on 06/27/2008 4:30:57 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat; but they know what's best for us)
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