1 posted on
06/25/2008 6:38:22 AM PDT by
kellynla
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To: kellynla
It would be nice if McCain would finally learn some economics. Compared to the alternative, McCain is a genius. I have no desire to return to Carternomics.
2 posted on
06/25/2008 6:49:46 AM PDT by
Always Right
(Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
To: kellynla
With no speculators prices would even be higher because we’d have oil shortages. Speculators are essentially insurance for the suppliers.
3 posted on
06/25/2008 6:50:13 AM PDT by
cdga5for4
To: kellynla
McCain Quote:
"I am very angry, frankly, at the oil companies not only because of the obscene profits they've made but at their failure to invest in alternate energy to help us eliminate our dependence on foreign oil. They're making huge profits and that happens, but not to say, 'We're in this so we can over time eliminate America's dependence on foreign oil,' I think is an abrogation of their responsibilities as citizens." What ever happened to the Good Ol' Days when everybody just assumed the oil companies were buying up competing technology and squashing innovation in order to maintain their energy monopoly? You know, the old technology exists to produce a car that gets 100 MPG, but the oil companies are preventing it from coming to the market trope, beloved of scam marketers of magnets and fuel filters everywhere.
It is BS, of course. But at least it is BS that recognizes that the oil business has an interest in promoting the oil business, and not competing technologies. This notion that the oil companies should be working diligently to put themselves out of business is just stupid.
4 posted on
06/25/2008 6:50:50 AM PDT by
gridlock
(Al Gore wants YOU to live like the Flintstones while HE lives like the Jetsons.)
To: kellynla
McCain Quote:
"I am very angry, frankly, at the oil companies not only because of the obscene profits they've made but at their failure to invest in alternate energy to help us eliminate our dependence on foreign oil. They're making huge profits and that happens, but not to say, 'We're in this so we can over time eliminate America's dependence on foreign oil,' I think is an abrogation of their responsibilities as citizens." What ever happened to the Good Ol' Days when everybody just assumed the oil companies were buying up competing technology and squashing innovation in order to maintain their energy monopoly? You know, the old technology exists to produce a car that gets 100 MPG, but the oil companies are preventing it from coming to the market trope, beloved of scam marketers of magnets and fuel filters everywhere.
It is BS, of course. But at least it is BS that recognizes that the oil business has an interest in promoting the oil business, and not competing technologies. This notion that the oil companies should be working diligently to put themselves out of business is just stupid.
5 posted on
06/25/2008 6:50:59 AM PDT by
gridlock
(Al Gore wants YOU to live like the Flintstones while HE lives like the Jetsons.)
To: kellynla
A good economic primer.
Please read it Senator McCain! And you too Obama!
6 posted on
06/25/2008 6:51:26 AM PDT by
devere
To: kellynla
"I am very angry, frankly, at the oil companies .. because of the obscene profits they've made"... I'm sick and tired of this "obscene profits" argument and hope someone from the McCain camp reads this post. Algore, Mr. Earth in the Balance, has made millions sitting on the board of directors for Google and Apple. Spend 5 minutes on Yahoo Finance and you will find the following Profit Margins. You tell me which ones are "obscene":
Exxon - 10.85%
Google - 24.89%
Apple - 15.13%
7 posted on
06/25/2008 6:53:53 AM PDT by
Oldeconomybuyer
(The democRATS are near the tipping point.)
To: kellynla
This is one reason why I’m not voting for McCain.
8 posted on
06/25/2008 6:55:07 AM PDT by
saganite
To: kellynla
"I am very angry, frankly... Memo to McCain's handler's:
1) Tell him to learn some economics.
2) Tell him to never, ever start a statement with "I am very angry, frankly"
9 posted on
06/25/2008 6:56:49 AM PDT by
ClearCase_guy
(Et si omnes ego non)
To: kellynla
10 posted on
06/25/2008 6:58:17 AM PDT by
B Knotts
(Calvin Coolidge Republican)
To: kellynla
Stossel got it two-thirds right.
I doubt that speculators are responsible for much of the run-up of oil prices. Why didn't they run them up sooner? Besides, there are too many other explanations: increased demand from China and India, the declining dollar and Middle East tensions.
The Middle East tensions are speculator related unless he's trying to say that Middle East "events" are actually reducing the supply of oil. Last I saw Iraq was pumping a fair amount and more then when the prices were lower.
To: kellynla
A perfect example of this is to compare USAir and Southwest right now.
USAir is cutting capacity, charging baggage, and other, fees, charging for drinks, upping prices.
Southwest are totally add-on fee free.
What’s the difference?
Southwest are currently paying for fuel at prices that they bought forward on a year ago.
17 posted on
06/25/2008 7:23:51 AM PDT by
Wil H
To: kellynla
A perfect example of this is to compare USAir and Southwest right now.
USAir is cutting capacity, charging baggage, and other, fees, charging for drinks, upping prices.
Southwest are totally add-on fee free.
What’s the difference?
Southwest are currently paying for fuel at prices that they bought forward on a year ago.
18 posted on
06/25/2008 7:23:59 AM PDT by
Wil H
To: kellynla; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; ...
It's clear McCain does not understand how markets work or why they are good.
Libertarian ping! To be added or removed freepmail me or post a message here.
21 posted on
06/25/2008 7:43:17 AM PDT by
traviskicks
(http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
To: kellynla
A perfect example of this is to compare USAir and Southwest right now.
USAir is cutting capacity, charging baggage, and other, fees, charging for drinks, upping prices.
Southwest are totally add-on fee free.
What’s the difference?
Southwest are currently paying for fuel at prices that they bought forward on a year ago.
24 posted on
06/25/2008 7:54:51 AM PDT by
Wil H
To: kellynla
, "I led the largest squadron in the U.S. Navy, not for profit but for patriotism". I bet Ho Chi Minh was so proud.
29 posted on
06/25/2008 8:55:01 AM PDT by
VeniVidiVici
(Barack Hussein Obama=Jimmy Carter II)
To: kellynla
"I believe there needs to be a thorough and complete investigation of speculators to find out whether speculation has been going on and, if so, how much it has affected the price of a barrel of oil. There's a lot of things out there that need a lot more transparency and, consequently, oversight." I have my flame suit on, but, On the surface, I don't have an issue with this statement. There has been a bull run on oil commodoties ahich has driven up the price. Without a thorough and complete understanding of the situation, how can we determine if there is some remedy?
30 posted on
06/25/2008 8:56:21 AM PDT by
Homer1
To: kellynla
While I personally may think it may be good business sense that the oil companies develop and perfect alternative energy, I fail to see why they should be obligated to do so.
32 posted on
06/25/2008 9:01:29 AM PDT by
VeniVidiVici
(Barack Hussein Obama=Jimmy Carter II)
To: kellynla
mCpain is an obscene profligator
37 posted on
06/25/2008 11:57:55 AM PDT by
WOBBLY BOB
(Conservatives are to McCain what Charlie Brown is to Lucy.)
To: kellynla; All
"The market price of any particular commodity, though it may continue long above, can seldom continue long below its natural price. Whatever part of it was paid below the natural rate, the persons whose interest it affected would immediately feel the loss, and would immediately withdraw either so much land, or so much labour, or so much stock, from being employed about it, that the quantity brought to market would soon be no more than sufficient to supply the effectual demand. Its market price, therefore, would soon rise to the natural price. This at least would be the case where there was perfect liberty." - Adam Smith,
The Wealth of Nations, 1776.
Adam Smith - The Invisible Hand Speaks.
41 posted on
06/25/2008 1:27:51 PM PDT by
PsyOp
(Truth in itself is rarely sufficient to make men act. - Clauswitz, On War, 1832.)
To: kellynla
Finally someone who gets it.
42 posted on
06/25/2008 1:46:30 PM PDT by
TigersEye
(Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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