Posted on 06/25/2008 9:10:21 PM PDT by Red Steel
Hey, if he didn’t register, he isn’t eligable for Federal jobs! Great question! I would bet he didn’t!
If there is no seal, it isn’t the real deal.
No government seal on his birth certificate.
I checked all your posts, you don’t seem to think anyone should say anything critical about Obama at all...no matter what he says or does—or who he associates with. Every point is met by a “what does this matter?” or “This is a non-issue”, “you are playing into Obama’s hand”.....because he is such a “gifted” person. According to you, he is so smart and clever, no one stands a chance against him!
Well, many of us, in this country, happen to believe that this man is a danger. He needs to be closely looked at, and because of the nature of jihad; his lies need to be exposed. There is a pattern here, that causes alarm. All of these things are valid, and deserve to be investigated.
Actually, only if his Mother was American. Kid with American fathers, born on foreign soil are not automatically US citizens. Ask any Vietnam Vet who had a child in Vietnam.
I was talking about the Canal zone only. There was a 1904 law making anyone born in the Panama Canal zone to at least one American citizen an American citizen by birth. This law was passed just after the US acquired rights to build the canal.
I think that is essentially correct. Obama is far more politically skilled than people want to admit. It seems that every time he is attacked he becomes stronger. I don’t think this is an accident. The best example is the commentary of James Dobson last week. Dobson took issue with Obama’s interpretation of scripture and of the Constitution.
Within a few days several articles written by evangelicals appeared in leading newspapers. They argued in support of Obama and they made the arguement that important members of the evangelical leadership were very comfortable with Obama. Surely you do not believe that was merely circumstantial. I think the Obama side believes that the more the debate touches on faith, his wife, patriotism or his birth certificate he gains points.
The Dobson case is the most easy to illustrate. He cannot lose a single vote on the left by fighting with Dobson. On the other hand, he gains support among those evangelicals who are unhappy with Dobson. Some estimates suggest he can win up to 25% of the evangelical vote. That would be a remarkable. The leakage is in the areas of enviornment, poverty and social accountability. All are popular themes among younger evangelicals.
I think Obama is so hoping that his wife will be attacked. I think they have already mapped out how to take advantage of it and gain support in the middle. The debate on faith is bizarre. The right is talking about Obama being Muslim. Obama is talking about Jesus in a more intimate way than any candidate who has ever run for president. It is a subject where you cannot con the audience. He knows his stuff and why are be lobbing softballs so he can hit them out of the park with ease.
Obama is vulnerable on pure policy issues ranging from taxes to security. The greater issue is that the personal matters such as faith and patriotism are more sexy and they suck all the oxygen out of the debate. As long as the debate stays on personality and personal issues Obama holds the hammer. Think about a debate where McCain and Obama are challenged on questions of faith. If Obama smokes him by professing his personal journey in Christ and if uses scripture to explain his understanding we will be asking ourselves how we set the table for him.
Anybody who already supports Obama will not be switching their vote. The problem is getting out the traditional Republican vote, especially among evangelicals. It is crazy to give Obama a platform among this group because he will win supporters.
That is my thesis. I may be proved wrong. But I believe that the Clintons badly underestimated just how good this guy is as a pure politician (he started out 30 points behind Hillary). The biggest mistake the Clintons made is they tried to dismiss Obama as not having a message of substance. I think he has a profoundly deep message that appeals to many voters. Nobody seems to want to give oxygen or air time to the notion that it is the wrong message about trade or taxes or security. Finally, the dumbest issue of all is the speculation on the birth certificate. Either it is valid or not. But, get the evidence. It is one of those issues that near the end of the campaign Obama will use as an example of the unfair way that McCain supporter tried to smear him. He is very slick!
I went back to read your post to see if I had covered all the points and I discovered a statement I wish I had used. “The good man wins his case by careful argument; the evil-minded only wants to fight. Prov. 13:2)” I think Obama is a master tactician and everyone seems to be rushing full speed into the trap that he is setting. I believe he wants to debate the very things we claim he is avoiding. As I said in another post, I think he is even setting up some cards to play so that he can appear to be the reasonable man on the abortion issue. I believe he will advocate some direct funding for faith groups with a view to reducing the number of abortions and encouraging adoptions. He will do it in a way where he does lose a single vote on the left whole making some gains among the right. It is naive to underestimate this guy.
Very Strange. This is obviously a fake birth certificate. This is as bad a job as the Texas National Guard papers.
Wouldn't it be strange if Obama was an illegal alien born in Africa or Indonesia?
He obviously has a caucasian mother. The lady claiming to be his mother is a citizen. A DNA test would confirm that.
One only needs one native born parent to be a US citizen....even if he does have a phony birth certificate.
I don't know if that is true. One has to be born under the jurisdiction of the United States of America in order to be a natural born citizen.
Montana v. Kennedy, 366 U.S. 308 (1961): A person born in 1906, whose mother was a native-born citizen of the United States and whose father was a foreign citizen, who was born overseas and then moved to the United States, was not a citizen of the United States by birth.
I meant to answer this days ago. Sorry. Very good points!
But, I will have to disagree with you, that these issues don’t matter. I believe all of the issues matter. Put together they show a pattern. A pattern that when sewed up, will be one horrible garment that we will have to wear.
But, point taken that we should not underestimate Obama. Trouble we are having, I think is that we underestimated John McCain!
A birth certificate without a serial number is as valid as a $20 bill without a serial number.
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