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NRA sues to overturn San Francisco gun ban in city housing
Mercury News ^ | 6/27/08 | Howard Mintz

Posted on 06/27/2008 9:17:26 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: doc1019
"NRA lawsuits are going to be a terrific strain on their recourses"

They will have little recourse but to spend their resources.

41 posted on 06/28/2008 2:23:21 AM PDT by Enterprise (Let all Democrats have a half vote. They deserve it!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Using a gay plaintiff is a stroke of genius! Hats off to the NRA on this one!!! Great job Wayne, great job!!!!!!
42 posted on 06/28/2008 4:34:37 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: dayglored

I wonder whether shouting “I love you” while beating the carp out of somebody would make it less of a crime....

Perhaps in SF it would be considered public S&M and condoned if not celebrated along with the rest of the diversity....


43 posted on 06/28/2008 4:50:54 AM PDT by ExGeeEye (I've been waiting since 11/04/79 for us (US) to do something about Iran.)
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To: ExGeeEye
> I wonder whether shouting “I love you” while beating the carp out of somebody would make it less of a crime.... Perhaps in SF it would be considered public S&M and condoned if not celebrated along with the rest of the diversity....

Interesting point.

And for all we know, there are gay folks who arrange (for love or money) to be beat up while their partner screams "Fudge-packer!" at them. But doing it themselves, in private, is their own business.

S&M is different from real assault. Last I knew, actual muggers don't respect "safe words".

44 posted on 06/28/2008 7:22:42 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: TeleStraightShooter
"IIRC the 9th circus declared a few years ago that there was no right individual right in the 2nd."

Your recollection is correct. However, you have to take what that group of socialists say with a grain of salt. Usually within a few months the Supreme Court overturns their fantasies and the left coast settles down until they sit in judgment over the lessors again.

Remember, it is your right to preserve your life by any means. You decide what to use not them.

Semper Fi
An Old Man

45 posted on 06/28/2008 8:48:28 AM PDT by An Old Man ("The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they suppress." Douglas)
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To: Lockbar
As this thread moves along, I don’t think its fair to make fun a gay guy (poof, small gun, etc.) who wants a pistol for personal attention. Its his right, too.

Yeah. That this thread quickly morphed into "Ooh! Let's make fun of homos!" is a bit unseemly.

46 posted on 06/28/2008 9:18:54 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: irishjuggler
irishjuggler said: "... but I'm not so sure that the NRA deserves to win this one. "

I am. My tax dollars are not to be made available for any infringement whatever.

I had thought that this issue had already been laid to rest, but evidently the case that came up years ago, and was decided in favor of the renters, must have been public housing controlled by the feds. The feds CANNOT disarm people living in public housing. This was even re-addressed when refugess from Katrina were disarmed as a condition of living in emergency housing. The courts said, "No way", I think.

This case is public housing controlled by a state or a city and that makes it a suitable case for "incorporation" under the Fourteenth Amendment, causing the Second Amendment to apply to the states.

This is really good case because it puts the liberals into the position of having to argue that states and cities have the power to disarm poverty-stricken gays.

47 posted on 06/28/2008 9:30:39 AM PDT by William Tell (RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
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To: William Tell

See, I guess the problem is that I strongly oppose the idea of public housing. In a free society, I shouldn’t be forced to pay to provide homes for the numerous able-bodied folks who reside in public housing. No one pays to house me, and I don’t ask anyone else to do so. Thus, I say, if someone wishes to be the ward of the taxpayers, that person forfeits the rights of a free citizen. In my mind, it wouldn’t be inappropriate for the public to impose essentially any punitive restrictions (curfews, drug tests, etc.) on public housing residents that the majority deems appropriate.


48 posted on 06/28/2008 10:16:04 AM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: Drew68
As this thread moves along, I don’t think its fair to make fun a gay guy (poof, small gun, etc.) who wants a pistol for personal attention. Its his right, too. Yeah. That this thread quickly morphed into "Ooh! Let's make fun of homos!" is a bit unseemly.

I have been more than supportive of the 2nd Amendment rights of sodomites and abortionists to be armed and shoot back . I have spent time , money and organized to that end . However if my 1st Amendment right to make stupid , stereotypical cliched jokes must be suspended in the interest of "seemlyness" then I guess you got here with the PC police just in time .

49 posted on 06/28/2008 10:59:48 AM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know)
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To: NormsRevenge

i bet you dollars to donuts the gun crime rate in these city projects are much higher than the rest of the city. these people do not understand that criminals do not care about gun laws!


50 posted on 06/28/2008 11:02:35 AM PDT by thefactor (the innocent shall not suffer nor the guilty go free...)
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To: irishjuggler
irishjuggler said: "See, I guess the problem is that I strongly oppose the idea of public housing. "

We are in agreement being opposed to public housing.

But given that we must have it, then I am strongly opposed to making things more comfortable for anti-gunners and unliveable for pro-gunners. What are the chances that a person who finds themselves denied the right to arms because of where they live will expend any energy supporting MY right to keep and bear arms.

Whereas, the NRA suit provides evidence that there is at least one person living in San Francisco's public housing that is willing to work for his rights and mine.

51 posted on 06/28/2008 4:09:11 PM PDT by William Tell (RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
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To: thefactor
thefactor said: "... criminals do not care about gun laws!"

Oddly, the NRA plaintiff is the second person I have heard of today who suffers under anti-gun restrictions and who has chosen to risk prison or homelessness rather than be disarmed.

I've jumped through so many hoops to stay legal here in Kalifornia that it makes me dizzy. I'm just one anti-gun law from facing arrest.

52 posted on 06/28/2008 4:12:31 PM PDT by William Tell (RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
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