Unstamped certificate suggests Obama may not be "natural born" US citizen

Israel Insider ^ | June 24, 2008 | Reuven Koret

[FocusNexus]

The "birth certificate" claimed by the Barack Obama campaign is not certified as authentic and appears to be a photoshopped fake.

Embossed seal of the State of Hawaii absent from the purported "birth certificate" of Barack Obama

Janice Okubo, Director of Communications of the State of Hawaii Department of Health, told Israel Insider: "At this time there are no circumstances in which the State of Hawaii Department of Health would issue a birth certification or certification of live birth only electronically." And, she added, "In the State of Hawaii all certified copies of certificates of live birth have the embossed seal and registrar signature on the back of the document."

So if he were registered as being born in Hawaii, Barack Obama -- because only he or another member of his immediate family could by law request a "Certification of Live Birth" -- must have a certified paper copy, with embossed stamp and seal, or he could request one. But what his campaign has put forward as genuine, according to the senior spokesman in the relevant department of the State of Hawaii, is not in fact a certified copy. It is not valid.

The Obama campaign, however, continues to flaunt the unstamped, unsealed, uncertified document -- notably in very low resolution -- on its "Fight the Smears" website, with campaign officials vowing that it's authentic, sending the image around as "proof" to reporters, and inviting supporters to refer to it as they battle against supposed distortions and calumnies against their candidate. However, the campaign refuses to produce an authentic original birth certificate from the year of Obama's birth, or even a paper version with seal and signature of the "Certification of Live Birth." Nor has it even published an electronic copy with the requisite embossed seal and signature.

[Cedric]

You watch, if/when this thing gets traction you'll have the usual suspects who defended OJ and Clinton say, “What's the difference, McCain wasn’t born in the U.S. either.”

[FocusNexus]

“Gotta wonder how many more times this same article is going to be posted on FR.....”

It is NOT the same article, it’s the same ISSUE. Well, until the issue is resolved conclusively, which Obama could do easily by showing his real birth certificate, which would put all speculations to rest. The real question is WHY doesn’t he do so?

[Jeff Chandler]

You watch, if/when this thing gets traction you'll have the usual suspects who defended OJ and Clinton say, “What's the difference, McCain wasn’t born in the U.S. either.”

Yep, the Democrat talking points will go out, and that will be repeated endlessly in their media.

[Cedric]

Go elsewhere then.

[Jeff Chandler]

We are being told to MoveOn.org.

[Cedric]

And with the sorry state of civics education in this country, wanna bet who wins the argument?

[nikos1121]

I want to see the hospital records proving he was born here. Anyone can get a fake birth certificate. It’s beed rebutted that this is an authentic BC. This one doesn’t have serial number it’s been blocked out.

Therefore, show me the hospital records of birth, we can all drop this.

[Cedric]

Picky, picky, picky.

[Boundless]

> But somewhere, somebody on the federal payroll works for
> the Department Of Verifying Presidential Qualifications,
> and that person should be filling out some offical
> government form certifying that Barack Obama does meet
> all the constitutional requirements to be President:

What makes you think that’s true?
I’ve never been aware of any such vetting being done.

This does all look very much like the Kerry SF180 situation.
My guess is that BHO2 is a qualified NB citizen, but there
is something embarrassing on the original un-Photoshopped
forms.

[SE Mom]

Yep- and as usual the cover-up is worse.

Because fraud is nothing to mess with..

[ExTexasRedhead]

Ping

[Normal4me]

This thread intrigued me so I just dug out a copy of my Certificate of Live Birth. It does in fact have an embossed seal on it and a date of June 11, 1981 (I was born in 1964). Above the seal is written: (Not valid unless the seal of the Brevard County Health Department is affixed.)

I will photocopy it tomorrow to see if in fact the seal shows up.

[cubreporter]

www.truthorfiction.com

[Logical me]

I’m a native born US citizen and I don’t have my original birth certificate—only the copy I ordered from the city.

I would think running for President would require something more than a copy. This copy was not even certified by Hawaii. What the hell is wrong with at least a certification. This is not a job as a dog catcher.

[Eva]

My husband’s former brother-in-law was born in Cuba, while his father was stationed there with the state department, during WWII. His parents never applied for his citizenship, that is they never filed the necessary papers, though just a formality, so he never had to register for the draft. He, thus avoided service during the Vietnam war. He votes regularly, though.

[nikos1121]

Why is the certificate number blacked out? Can you answer that?

[Bernard]

The ONLY reason to believe that it is true is that it provides an opportunity to put somebody on the payroll. What politician would pass up that chance?

I am not claiming the person in that job does it correctly, but I bet there somebody on the payroll in charge of this. Otherwise, some lawyer would have figured out some way to sue somebody over this.

[nikos1121]

Why is the certificate number blacked out? Can you answer that?

[Cedric]

Look, John Adams was born in a boat off the coast of New England and Andrew Jackson was a bastard and Zachary Taylor was born in a wagon south of the Rio Grande and don't even get me stared about Sally Henning.

Just move on.

[Cedric]

stared = started