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Jerusalem Post ^ | 6-30-08 | SHMULEY BOTEACH

Posted on 06/30/2008 4:18:23 PM PDT by SJackson

There are four things in America for which there is little forgiveness. The first is killing your wife, as O.J. Simpson discovered. The second is allegations of child molestation, as Michael Jackson found. The third is being old, as John McCain is rapidly discovering. And the fourth is having too many children, as I have found.

Looking down at primitives with "too many" children is one of the last acceptable prejudices in the West. With our ninth child expected imminently, God willing, I find myself pitied and pilloried wherever I go. "Wow, that's a lot of kids," is a refrain I constantly hear. What a shame I didn't have instead, say, eight antique cars, or better, eight homes around the world, for which I would have been thought a success. But eight kids? That proves your either a religious kook or someone ruining the environment by overpopulating the earth.

Enter The New York Times Magazine this past Sunday with a cover story called "Childless Europe" which claims that the Germans, Italians, the French and the Bulgarians are disappearing off the face of the earth due to a shockingly low birthrate, or what demographers call "lowest-low fertility." This truly ominous article relates that for the first time on record, birthrates in parts of Europe have dropped below 1.3 per family.

"For the demographers, this number has a special mathematical portent. At that rate, a country's population would be cut in half in 45 years, creating a falling-off-a-cliff effect from which it would be nearly impossible to recover." In Germany "where the births-to-deaths ratio now results in an annual population loss of roughly 100,000, the government's family minister declared that if her country didn't reverse its plummeting birthrate, "we will have to turn out the light."' Italy is dealing with the crisis by paying parents to have children, and Russia has national make-love days where they encourage couples to go home and conjure up a child.

Pope Benedict summed it up best. "Europe is infected by a strange lack of desire for the future. Children, our future, are perceived as a threat to the present."

WHILE THE article blames the falling birthrate on poor government policies that do not enforce maternity leave or subsidize post-natal care, as well as inflexible working conditions for women, a far more important reason is growing Western narcissism. As the West becomes richer, it is also becoming more self-absorbed.

Children consume time and resources both of which young adults would rather focus on themselves. Better to have the freedom, and the cash, to jet to Paris for the weekend than push a kid on some dumb swing. Not that we don't love kids any more. We do, but in an abstract, as-long-as-it-doesn't-interfere-with-our-freedom kind of way. Having them in our thirties, and about one or two max, minimizes the disruption.

Never before in history has a civilization skewed more away from the needs of the community and toward the aggrandizement of the individual. In the US, a warrior class consisting of about two percent of the population fights bad guys in Baghdad and gets blown up in Kabul while the rest of us go on Facebook to update our "friends" as to our emotional state. The regular flow of Facebook status updates telling us that "Jane feels like shopping today" or "Mort misses his ex-girlfriend Linda" feeds the Truman Show mentality of American youth who are taught to believe that the whole world revolves around them. Sacrifice be damned.

The most powerful TV show in modern American history is American Idol. The title is telling. It promises that you too can grow to be a puffed-up celebrity. Meanwhile, when I approached several television executive friends and pitched a family healing show for the brave military families that have to be re-integrated after a hero returns from Iraq, I was told that the military doesn't rate on TV. We simply don't want to be reminded of the selfish lives we are leading by watching the selfless lead theirs.

When you ask twenty-something Westerners to contemplate parenthood - with its diapers, school runs, and estimated $250,000 cost of raising a child to adulthood - they think you fell off the moon. Spend my life focused on someone else, even if it is my own child - have you gone mad?

When you later tell them that the very future of their nation depends on it, they gaze with the same incredulity. The idea of doing almost anything for their country, baby-making included, is utterly foreign to them. Meanwhile, tens of thousands of Jewish singles continue to attend a truly staggering variety of singles events in Manhattan in a never-ending quest to find the best. Do they deserve any less?

BUT LOOK at what is lost when young people delay having children until their mid-thirties and then have one kid. At risk is not only the morbid disintegration of once great nations like Japan and South Korea, both of whom average 1.1 child per family, or half the replacement rate, but something far more fundamental. When children have no siblings, they don't learn to share as much and they don't assume responsibility for taking care of one another. And the condition of being an only child runs the risk of fostering the very narcissism we decry, as the child becomes the epicenter of his parent's life with no other children to distract them.

And is it good for boys to grow up without sisters, given that one of our society's greatest problems is growing male disrespect for women? The boy who feels a filial connection with a girl who is his sister remembers the feeling of how he wants her to be treated when he dates someone else's sister.

I know the complaint that too many kids in a family means that each will get less parental attention. The simple response to this absurd argument is that attention is a poor substitute for real love. Celebrities get attention, while family members get love. A child who is immersed in an environment where he is surrounded by the love of both parents and siblings is a child who never feels alone.

Everywhere you look these days, people are becoming grandparents at about 70. But how many years does that leave a child to grow close to his grandparents, learn from their wisdom, and connect with an older generation? By the time the child is 10, his grandparents are already octogenarians who are often growing more physically dependent and infirm.

The Western cult of narcissism is spoiling our kids, making us neglectful of our elders, spawning an out-of-control material insatiability, and destroying us - quite literally - by having us die off without a replacement generation.

And of all the many remedies available that might free us from our growing self-absorption, having one more baby than we originally planned for our marriages is the best remedy of all.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: babies; deathofthewest; demographics; demographicwinter; jerusalempost; narcissism; populationcontrol; shmuleyboteach; zpg; zpo
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1 posted on 06/30/2008 4:18:23 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson

I’d say “Wow” too.

That’s not a bad thing. In fact I find it impressive. I wish my wife and I had started sooner so we could have had a larger family (two children). But what is, is.


2 posted on 06/30/2008 4:22:33 PM PDT by DB
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To: SJackson

Our daughter and her husband gifted us with out first grandchild (she’s 26 and we are early 50’s), so we are planning all the ways we can enjoy this new role. Life is good.


3 posted on 06/30/2008 4:23:18 PM PDT by trimom
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4 posted on 06/30/2008 4:23:21 PM PDT by SJackson (If we win Iowa, then we can move to the world as it should be, Michelle O)
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To: SJackson

as soon as the family reaches a certain level of education or $$, children drop to 1 or 2. More conservative societies might manage to go a bit longer, but that’s about it.

Baby factories will be next.


5 posted on 06/30/2008 4:24:51 PM PDT by Santino Sonny Corleone
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To: SJackson

The Western cult of narcissism is...

..killing this nation.

..destroying Western Civilization.

..undermining freedom.

..anesthetizing everybody else into a lowest common denominator wins mentality.


6 posted on 06/30/2008 4:26:30 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
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To: SJackson

“Doing my part to raise the population level (see my FR page!) in the USA” ping!! :-)


7 posted on 06/30/2008 4:27:30 PM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom and proud Rush Conservative with no dog in the presidential race now *sigh*)
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To: SJackson

O.J. Simpson was never held accountable for murdering two people. Michael Jackson has never been held accountable for molesting children. John McCain - we have yet to see what happens there.


8 posted on 06/30/2008 4:27:32 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Soldier soon to be training other Army Soldiers)
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To: SoldierDad
O.J. Simpson was never held accountable for murdering two people. Michael Jackson has never been held accountable for molesting children

No, they weren't, even in popular culture

9 posted on 06/30/2008 4:29:28 PM PDT by SJackson (If we win Iowa, then we can move to the world as it should be, Michelle O)
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To: SJackson

I was with this until the crack about only children. You can just as easily have many siblings and be a self centered s.o.b.


10 posted on 06/30/2008 4:30:32 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: Santino Sonny Corleone

McCain’s suggesting to raise the Dependant tax credit is a step in the right direction.


11 posted on 06/30/2008 4:30:58 PM PDT by tbw2 ("Sirat: Through the Fires of Hell" by Tamara Wilhite - on amazon.com)
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To: DB
I’d say “Wow” too.

Ditto

It might be an acceptable prejudice(I don't really know), but I think this guy is too sensitive. "Wow" might be just being impressed.

12 posted on 06/30/2008 4:32:53 PM PDT by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: SJackson

Americas babies are coming from non-citizens.


13 posted on 06/30/2008 4:38:45 PM PDT by Coffee200am
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To: SJackson

Your gonna have to buy a LOT of carbon credits to cover those 9 C02 emitters Shmuley, get out your checkbook and send a check to:

Owl Gore
Greenhouse Gasbag
123 Idiot Street
Azzhat, Tennessee.


14 posted on 06/30/2008 4:39:23 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (Barack's mesmerizing speeches are little more than oratory Three Card Monte)
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To: SJackson

And what is the percentage — in comparison — for Islamic families?


15 posted on 06/30/2008 4:39:50 PM PDT by Exit148 (Founder of the Loose Change Club. Every nickle and dime counts!!)
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To: tbw2

we have enough kids I think. But if we need more, paying $10,000 to $20,000 for a baby might be a better motivator


16 posted on 06/30/2008 4:40:29 PM PDT by Santino Sonny Corleone
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To: SJackson
It is possible to both have a lot of children and not add to the growing world population.

My brother-in-law, for example, six kids, one by nature, five by adoption. All of the adopted kids are all mixed race, with Korean being the common ground for all five.

17 posted on 06/30/2008 4:40:39 PM PDT by Michael.SF. ("They're not Americans. They're liberals! "-- Ann Coulter, May 15, 2008)
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To: SJackson

Isn’t it a bit narcissistic in a different sense to find it ominous when one’s own demographic group is decreasing relative to others? Let’s promote Western values, not Westerners.


18 posted on 06/30/2008 4:40:59 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: SJackson

Pope Benedict summed it up best. “Europe is infected by a strange lack of desire for the future. Children, our future, are perceived as a threat to the present.”

That is a powerful quote.


19 posted on 06/30/2008 4:43:20 PM PDT by avenir
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To: 1st-P-In-The-Pod; 2ndDivisionVet; A_Conservative_in_Cambridge; af_vet_rr; agrace; Aiko; ...
I have 9 kids, 21 grandkids.

The rest of you are slackers!!!

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20 posted on 06/30/2008 4:45:00 PM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: SteamShovel

i get it all the tme when I mention that I am one of nine children...


21 posted on 06/30/2008 4:45:58 PM PDT by stefanbatory
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To: Coffee200am

“Americas babies are coming from non-citizens.”

The la raza and mecha dolts routinely declare that they “...will conquer America through the wombs of our women.”


22 posted on 06/30/2008 4:46:45 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: firebrand
Let’s promote Western values, not Westerners.

Western values are promoted by Western children.

23 posted on 06/30/2008 4:48:07 PM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: ought-six

......The la raza and mecha dolts ...and their Vatican masters


24 posted on 06/30/2008 4:48:34 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Conservation? Let the NE Yankees freeze.... in the dark)
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To: Coffee200am

True, but my wife and I will be US citizens in two years...

Not everyone moving to the US is an illegal...

We have 3 children, all US born.


25 posted on 06/30/2008 4:49:51 PM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: SJackson

As an aside, I like the author’s reference to the 2% warrior class. I can only dream of a day when the members of that class are actually recognized as such. I hear so much from politicians about “the debt owed these soldiers”, yet payment of that debt so often takes the form of words or meaningless gestures.

How about a revitalized, efficient VA system, at least a lifetime deduction on fed income tax for those who served in a combat zone (though obviously eliminated would be better), reduced (or eliminated) fees for things such as license plates (we already have special plates for vets in most states, how about an adjusted rate to go with them). As long as I’m dreaming, I wouldn’t mind seeing such “super-citizens” accorded some form of additional social status privilege in society.

/rant


26 posted on 06/30/2008 4:50:22 PM PDT by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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To: HerrBlucher

“Your gonna have to buy a LOT of carbon credits to cover those 9 C02 emitters Shmuley, get out your checkbook and send a check to:”

And how many Gore children are there? Three, or is it four? I believe Al needs to buy some more carbon credits himself.


27 posted on 06/30/2008 4:52:31 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Alouette

I’ve heard their are other ways to promote Western values. But nah, that can’t be true. You must be right. Roll out them babies.


28 posted on 06/30/2008 4:53:23 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: pillut48

Just read your home page. Maya Grace is beautiful, and to think you have two new blessings coming into your life soon.

Please let us know when they arrive.

You are truly blessed.


29 posted on 06/30/2008 4:53:59 PM PDT by Rushmore Rocks
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To: firebrand
I’ve heard their are other ways to promote Western values.

Yeah, but Westerners are too soft to promote those other methods.

30 posted on 06/30/2008 4:54:56 PM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: SJackson

There are too many great points in this piece to single any one out. What this writer has described is a primary symptom of the slow but steady death of Western culture.


31 posted on 06/30/2008 4:54:59 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: All

Wow, I must have started early. I was a grandma by the time I was 40.


32 posted on 06/30/2008 4:55:28 PM PDT by Melinda in TN
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To: Alouette

I am regretful that we stopped at four. I wish we had gone on to have a dozen.

Why? Because one of the four was called home to heaven early.

And, the three are grown and flown to far off places. I always thought I would have a bunch of adult children dropping by, grandchildren under my feet, and family all around.

Alas, they are all scattered to the four corners. I wish for grandchildren close by to love, hug, and to tell stories about the old days. We only get that a few days a year, if we are lucky.


33 posted on 06/30/2008 4:56:36 PM PDT by jacquej
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To: pillut48
Beautiful pictures of all three of your babies!

I'm doing my part too. Baby #7 is 4 1/2 years old and Baby #1 is 20 years old. The other 5 fall in between. No twins, I had my babies one at a time.

Prayers for you and your babies.
34 posted on 06/30/2008 4:57:39 PM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: Alouette
Well, then, that's the problem! We need a revival of pride in our own heritage. We are the answer. If that sounds arrogant, it just shows how much we have deserted our belief in own philosophy and culture.
35 posted on 06/30/2008 4:57:49 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: ought-six
The la raza and mecha dolts routinely declare that they “...will conquer America through the wombs of our women.”

And I have no doubt they will. Of course, then they'll turn it into a larger version of Mexico and have to start looking around for a new Goose that lays Golden Eggs.

36 posted on 06/30/2008 4:58:28 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: firebrand
Actually, a high value on child-rearing is merely a part of a larger and well-integrated system of values, one which at one time formed the ideological foundation for the West.

Abstinence from child-rearing, also, is part of a system of values albeit one which will not be able to sustain itself for much more than half a century from now. The math doesn't lie, and the moral void created by European nihilism will be filled by something. The question is, what?

37 posted on 06/30/2008 4:59:37 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: Lexinom

Nihilism is not the only reason people don’t have children. For some, it is a deep concern for the world, the very opposite of nihilism.


38 posted on 06/30/2008 5:01:58 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: SJackson
"Wow, that's a lot of kids," is a refrain I constantly hear.

That is not criticism. It is a lot of kids. Even back in the good ol' days that was a lot of kids. Especially considering that then to have eight living children you would probably have gone through 20 pregnancies.

It is quite an accomplishment. So "wow" indeed.

39 posted on 06/30/2008 5:02:23 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (A good marriage is like a casserole, only those responsible for it really know what goes into it.)
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To: Santino Sonny Corleone
as soon as the family reaches a certain level of education or $$, children drop to 1 or 2.

Nope that trend is reversing. Now it is the more educated and wealthier who are having three, four or five children.

40 posted on 06/30/2008 5:04:52 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (A good marriage is like a casserole, only those responsible for it really know what goes into it.)
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To: avenir

Pope Benedict needs to take on the eco-facists as well as the Islamofacists. The eco-nazis play a major role in society’s diminished value of babies and children.


41 posted on 06/30/2008 5:07:35 PM PDT by Vigilanteman ((Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud))
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To: jacquej
And, the three are grown and flown to far off places. I always thought I would have a bunch of adult children dropping by, grandchildren under my feet, and family all around.

Alas, they are all scattered to the four corners.

All my 9 are grown up and spread out across 3 continents. The closest ones live 4 hours away. But they are all doing the Lord's work. :)

42 posted on 06/30/2008 5:07:39 PM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: Santino Sonny Corleone

As long as the parents have to pay for it the next 17 years. Otherwise, we’d see a new generation of welfare queens, instead of taxpayers raising more taxpayers.


43 posted on 06/30/2008 5:08:14 PM PDT by tbw2 ("Sirat: Through the Fires of Hell" by Tamara Wilhite - on amazon.com)
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To: SJackson

Congratulations to the Rabbi and his Mrs. on their 9th. Many good points in the article.


44 posted on 06/30/2008 5:09:53 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Tax-chick's House of Herpets. What's *your* ambient temperature?)
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To: Alouette

I’ve been working on grandkids, since my
kids were born. Alas... I am a slacker.

Quiver not yet full... Jo


45 posted on 06/30/2008 5:12:11 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: SJackson

Well, home schooling Protestants, traditional Catholics, and Latter-Day Saints are still having large families. The future belongs to those who are willing to believe in it, and pay for — with their own money. People of conviction, and allegiance to transcendent value, have children. When German Christians gather for worship in another few decades, they may well be singing Turkish hymns.


46 posted on 06/30/2008 5:17:02 PM PDT by RJR_fan (Winners and lovers shape the future. Whiners and losers TRY TO PREDICT IT.)
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To: Santino Sonny Corleone
as soon as the family reaches a certain level of education or $$, children drop to 1 or 2.

My wife and I both have master's degrees. So, too, do two other home schooling families we know. Dave and Susan, both MSEEs, have six kids. The other couple, with MS degrees in biology, have nine kids. We only have four -- but since they call came by C-section, I think we did what we could for the cause.

47 posted on 06/30/2008 5:19:29 PM PDT by RJR_fan (Winners and lovers shape the future. Whiners and losers TRY TO PREDICT IT.)
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To: SJackson

If I had it to do over again, I would have at least five children. When we had ours there was a big push to limit the size of families to save the planet. Being young and stupid, I tried to do the right thing.

Then they flooded my nation with families with five to ten children, giving them higher payments for each new child. Go figure.

I think the industrialized nations have been brainwashed into having fewer children. Now the governments are acting as if they can’t get along without importing as many people as possible that don’t speak the native language, or hold anything near similar values.

You really have to wonder how planned this was.

If governments want more kids, provide a larger tax incentive to get them. It will work. And heaven forbid, you might even wind up with a stable society.


48 posted on 06/30/2008 5:24:09 PM PDT by DoughtyOne ( I say no to the Hillary Clinton wing of the Republican party. Not now or ever, John McCain...)
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To: tbw2

in desperation you might not have a choice, $20k for a kid who will work for 45 years isn’t a bad deal. We could turn an eye to the border of course...


49 posted on 06/30/2008 5:25:25 PM PDT by Santino Sonny Corleone
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To: SJackson

“Too many children” is any number beyond what the parent(s) in question can support without taxpayer handouts. When an unemployed high school drop-out, either alone or with a similarly situated husband or boyfriend, has one child, that’s too many. The Duggar family in Arkansas is now expecting child number 18, but mom and dad support and educate them all (they don’t even use the infernal pulic schools that they’re forced to pay taxes for), and that’s not too many. “Primitives” is an excessively polite term for people who pop out babies like feral cats.


50 posted on 06/30/2008 5:25:36 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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