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Obama’s Unveils Faith-Based Initiatives Plan
Fox News ^ | July 1st, 2008 | Bonney Kapp

Posted on 07/01/2008 10:39:03 AM PDT by Red Steel

Today marks the second day of Obama’s “Enduring American Values” week. Today’s topic: faith.

The Illinois senator will unveil its plan to overhaul the Bush Administration’s Faith-Based and Community Initiatives by helping religious organizations better learn how to apply for federal aid with a “Train the Trainers” program, and focusing the groups to provide summer learning programs to children.

Obama’s plan will not “scrap” the current program, the campaign says, but will fix it. “President Bush came into office with a promise to “rally the armies of compassion,” establishing a new Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives. But what we saw instead was that the Office never fulfilled its promise,” Obama will say today in Zanesville, Ohio.

The $500 million a year program, the campaign says, will level the playing field for religious groups and federal funds cannot be used to “proselytize or provide religious sectarian instruction.”

The proposal drew praise from President Bush’s one-time director of Faith Based and Community Initiatives office, John Dilulio. In a statement distributed by the Obama campaign, Dilulio said, “His plan reminds me of much that was best in both then Vice President Al Gore’s and then Texas Governor George W. Bush’s respective first speeches on the subject in 1999.”

Read Obama’s prepared remarks below the jump.

You know, faith based groups like East Side Community Ministry carry a particular meaning for me. Because in a way, they’re what led me into public service. It was a Catholic group called The Campaign for Human Development that helped fund the work I did many years ago in Chicago to help lift up neighborhoods that were devastated by the closure of a local steel plant.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: dncfalseprophets; faith; falsemessiah; falseprophets; obama

1 posted on 07/01/2008 10:39:03 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel
Great strategy by Obama.

We see through his hypocrisy, but most of America will eat it up. Neither the MSM nor McCain will call him on it.

I'll be surprised if he doesn't make a jump in the polls in the next couple of weeks.

2 posted on 07/01/2008 10:42:28 AM PDT by comebacknewt
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To: Red Steel
Is Obama really so stupid to think that he has a chance of winning the evangelical vote? The first thing that people think when they think of Obama and religion is his racist, anti-USA former “church.”
3 posted on 07/01/2008 10:42:53 AM PDT by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: Red Steel

wouldn’t it be nice if someone compared obama’s positions/past/experience with W’s? they’re sounding more and more alike with each passing day.


4 posted on 07/01/2008 10:47:18 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: pnh102

Evangelical does not automatically equal conservative. Just look at Huckabee for example. There is a major segment of the “social conservative” group that loves big government as long as that big government is doing “Christian” things.


5 posted on 07/01/2008 10:48:23 AM PDT by PastorTony
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To: Red Steel

Perhaps Al-Queada can get a grant to help make their bombs.............


6 posted on 07/01/2008 10:48:45 AM PDT by Red Badger (If we drill deep enough, we can reach the Saudi oil fields from THIS side..........)
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To: camle

I can’t wait to hear the backlash from liberals since they all railed against W’s faith-base initiatives. What’s that chirping noise?


7 posted on 07/01/2008 10:49:04 AM PDT by faloi
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To: Red Steel

8 posted on 07/01/2008 10:49:22 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY ((((Stop the Obamanation!))))
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To: Red Steel

The Illinois senator will unveil its plan to overhaul the Bush Administration’s Faith-Based and Community Initiatives by helping religious organizations better learn how to apply for federal aid with a “Train the Trainers” program

Looks like Rush nailed it. He was just talking about this and said it was all about expanding govt power. This will be the camel’s nose under the tent.


9 posted on 07/01/2008 10:49:41 AM PDT by saganite
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To: faloi
I can’t wait to hear the backlash from liberals since they all railed against W’s faith-base initiatives. What’s that chirping noise?

Rush just made that same brilliant comment...will they dare go against the messiah?
10 posted on 07/01/2008 10:51:04 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: PastorTony
Evangelical does not automatically equal conservative. Just look at Huckabee for example. There is a major segment of the “social conservative” group that loves big government as long as that big government is doing “Christian” things.

Excellent point....spot on!

11 posted on 07/01/2008 10:54:38 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (Obama is the feces created when shame eats too much stupidity.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

She does look more like James Brown than Jackie Kennedy.


12 posted on 07/01/2008 10:55:29 AM PDT by Aria (Obama: Potluck for President! "I serve as a blank screen on which people..project their own views")
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To: Red Steel

B. Hussein is for it before he will be against it. I can’t express how much I despise that evil lying POS.


13 posted on 07/01/2008 10:57:33 AM PDT by Merlinator (Stop the Obamination!)
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To: faloi

I’d like to see a campaign listing all of obama’s statements that sound like W’s, and asking “what change?”


14 posted on 07/01/2008 10:59:15 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: Merlinator

Look at her picture - notice the ear rings. Is it USSR sickle and hammer? HUH ?


15 posted on 07/01/2008 11:00:12 AM PDT by libscum (don't sit out- vote Mccain)
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To: Red Steel

When Obama talks about faith, it`s all I can do to not barf.


16 posted on 07/01/2008 11:00:16 AM PDT by Friendofgeorge (Someone said something about Christian snipers??? still trying to get my mind around it?)
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To: Miss Didi

That chirping you hear is the Obamazombie masses chanting “yes master, we can”.


17 posted on 07/01/2008 11:01:04 AM PDT by Merlinator (Stop the Obamination!)
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To: pnh102
Is Obama really so stupid to think that he has a chance of winning the evangelical vote?

There are millions of evangelicals who are fiscal liberals.

They don't label themselves as such but when they hear "the Gov't wants to give money to the suffering and underprivileged" they wrongly believe that message to be christian compassion.

These evangelicals are not smart people. They are led by a bleeding heart, not their head.

18 posted on 07/01/2008 11:04:57 AM PDT by what's up
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To: Merlinator

This is a back door to make Christian groups hire Openly Gay people.


19 posted on 07/01/2008 11:05:51 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Merlinator

This is a back door to make Christian groups hire Openly Gay people.


20 posted on 07/01/2008 11:06:18 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Merlinator

This is a back door to make Christian groups hire Openly Gay people.


21 posted on 07/01/2008 11:06:18 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: comebacknewt

The strategy of a federally mandated train the trainer program and limiting the religious speech of those organizations that take advantage of federal funding disqualifies this program from anything my church can use. It is interesting, the word “evangelical” in it’s purist form means those who believe in “evangelism”—proclaiming the good news. This activity is what Obama’s team pejoritively labels prostylizing. Why would a truly evangelical church takes funds from an agency that prohibits them from the activity that is part of their core mission.

It was the fact that the federal governments uses federal funds to mandate regulation that compelled the college my daughter attends, Grove City College, to withdraw from the federal student loan program. She is getting a fabulous education in excellent modern facilities for less money than it costs my son to attend our state university.


22 posted on 07/01/2008 11:10:05 AM PDT by sonrise57 (Help us God for evil men have surrounded us.)
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To: faloi
I can’t wait to hear the backlash from liberals since they all railed against W’s faith-base initiatives.

Complete Meltdown

...hours of reading entertainment. Liberal's messiah is no more....
23 posted on 07/01/2008 11:10:24 AM PDT by envisio (If you ain't laughin yet... you ain't seen me naked. 8^O)
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To: PJ-Comix

ping to link in #23...though I am sure you’re already all over this.


24 posted on 07/01/2008 11:16:38 AM PDT by envisio (If you ain't laughin yet... you ain't seen me naked. 8^O)
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To: envisio

That’s the longest DU thread I’ve ever seen.


25 posted on 07/01/2008 11:24:44 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

The lefties at DU will hate thing but give it a pass since Obama is doing it. The lambasted Bush as a religous nut for doing this. The ACLU and Americians United for Separation of Church and state will also quitely seethe but let it go without being on all the MSM stating the horror of the program.


26 posted on 07/01/2008 11:25:48 AM PDT by therut
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To: Red Steel

1 minute satirical Obama video here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR6b-kWncI4

Hurry before some diversity loving (RIGHT!) Obamaniac at YouTube pulls it.


27 posted on 07/01/2008 12:09:39 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: therut

Actually, I just read the DU thread. Many of them are quoting a new press release that claims Obama’s support for faith-based-Charities is “much better” than Bush’s. Personally, I don’t like the federal government redistributing wealth to any faith-based organization (and I’m a devout Catholic), but apparently the DUers now like it as long as it merely removes things like abstinence counseling. Wow...what a principled bunch those DUers are.


28 posted on 07/01/2008 12:12:06 PM PDT by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: Red Steel

Obama will “fix” the program by ensuring that faith-based funding will only go to truly deserving groups like Louis Farrakhan’s Nation of Islam prison ministry.


29 posted on 07/01/2008 12:18:56 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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