Posted on 07/01/2008 1:03:52 PM PDT by Red Steel
Fellow Blog Talk Radio compadre David Zublick over at Heading Right says, “Maybe Not“.
I noted back here that when Kos produced - not a birth certificate - but a certificate of live birth there were several discrepancies noted that pointed to the fact - aside from the convenience - that the document was most likely forged. Since Obama has failed to produce a birth certificate, in-spite of several calls to do so, is telling indeed.
I was born in 1958 in the State of Florida and I can get a birth certificate for ten bucks. I doubt Hawaii was so backward in 1961 that it cannot produce a copy that he could show.
The news orgs are NOT looking into this, but some of us can snoop where others cannot. We’ll see what we can find. Fellow Blog Talk Radio compadre David Zublick over at Heading Right says, “Maybe Not“.
I noted back here that when Kos produced - not a birth certificate - but a certificate of live birth there were several discrepancies noted that pointed to the fact - aside from the convenience - that the document was most likely forged. Since Obama has failed to produce a birth certificate, in-spite of several calls to do so, is telling indeed.
I was born in 1958 in the State of Florida and I can get a birth certificate for ten bucks. I doubt Hawaii was so backward in 1961 that it cannot produce a copy that he could show.
The news orgs are NOT looking into this, but some of us can snoop where others cannot. We’ll see what we can find.
UPDATE: Looks like some have filed the ole FOIA request to force the issue. Meanwhile Doug Ross thinks it’s legit.
One note, Certificates of Live Birth are NOT considered proof of citizenship in many states including Florida, while in other states it is.
Again, why not then just produce the damn certificate, it clears up the whole thing. Until we see that, the issue isn’t closed.
Ping
You do find these thread fast! ;-)
Hashed out time and time again the past few weeks on FR. It may be very possible we are being scammed by Obama’s troops and at some point he will come forward with a certified-certified copy and make us all look foolish, full of tin-foil conspiracy theories, and right-wing nut cases. Of course, whispered community rumors about his birthplace and religion may hurt him, but the same-o, same-o here on FR doesn’t do anything for our credibility.
ON!,
NTSA!
This is getting silly.
Obama has produced a perfectly acceptable birth certifcate.
I can’t stand the guy, but this is ridiculous.
There’s no doubt his mother was a citizen .....so does it even matter where he was born?
My sister’s kids were born in Holland and they’re USA citizens....
Obama is trying to lower the bar over what constitutes qualifications to the Presidency of the United States. The lowest possible bar he can set is meeting the Constitutional requirements for being a native born citizen. This is the standard we are now arguing over.
All additional qualifications of temprement, experience, ability, philosophy, corruptability and resume are being conveniently forgotten while we argue whether or not he is meets the Constitutional bar. Then when it is proven that he does, he will pretend that that eliminates any possible objection anybody might have to him being President of the United States.
If you don't get this yet, you never will.
So if he can’t produce his birth certificate, then he should be able to produce his naturalization records since he’d need those to run for the Senate, correct?
Because to be eligible for Prez you must be a "natural born" citizen.
Okay I gotta ask...what is considered proof of citizenship in those States?
That may be his intent. Take the focus off of his qualifications and focus on the birth certificate. Although we should be looking at all of it.
If your parent is a U.S. citizen, then the child is automatically considered to be “natural born.”
If he produces naturalization records (of his own) he’s automatically disqualified from serving as President of the US.
Maybe Springsteen’s “Madame Marie” can tell us whether he’s “born in the USA”?
Oops, too late.
Obama has produced a perfectly acceptable birth certifcate.?
He has?
Been verified by the proper authorities and all, huh?
Well excuse me but I want to see the real thing. What I’ve seen so far is photoshopped. I know PS enough to see faked areas even without a real one for comparison. And there is one that shows the difference.
It’s very simple to quell all this crap. Show us the real deal.
It does take time to come up with a “real” certificate.
Go here
http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12939.htm
Got the following in an e-mail afew days ago. I’m not a lawyer or an expert on election oe citizenship law. I found it fascinating, but have no way of knowing if there’s anything to it...
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Subject: Obama May Be Illegal To Be Elected President!
This came from a USNA alumnus. It’ll be interesting to see how the media handle this...
Barack Obama is not a legal U.S. natural-born citizen according to the law on the books at the time of his birth, which falls between December 24, 1952, to November 13, 1986. Federal Law requires that the office of President requires a natural-born citizen if the child was not born to two U.S. Citizen parents. This is what exempts John McCain, though he was born in the US Panama Canal Zone.
US Law very clearly states: ‘. . . If only one parent is a U.S. Citizen at the time of one’s birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for minimum ten years, five of which must be after the age of 16.’ Barack Obama’s father was not a U.S. Citizen is a fact.
Obama’s mother was only 18 when Obama was born. This means even though she had been a U.S. Citizen for 10 years, (or citizen of Hawaii being a territory), his mother fails the test for at-least-5-years- prior-to Barack Obama’s birth, but-after-age-16.
In essence, Mother alone is not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. Citizenship. At most, 2 years elapsed from his mother turning 16 to the time of Barack Obama’s birth when she was 18. His mother would have needed to have been 16 + 5 = 21 years old at the time of Barack Obama’s birth for him to be a natural-born citizen. Barack Obama was already 3 years old at the time his mother would have needed to be to allow him natural citizenship from his only U.S. Citizen parent. Obama should have been naturalized as a citizen . . but that would disqualify him from holding the office.
The Constitution clearly declares: Naturalized citizens are ineligible to hold the office of President. Though Barack Obama was sent back to Hawaii at age 10, any other information does not matter because his mother is the one who must fulfill the requirement to be a U.S. Citzen for 10 years prior to his birth on August 4, 1961, with 5 of those years being after age 16.
Further, Obama may have had to have remained in the USA for some time frame to protect any citizenship he might have had, rather than living in Indonesia. This is very clear cut and a glaring violation of U.S. Election law. I think the Governor Schwarzenegger of California should be very interested in discovering if Obama is allowed to be elected President without being a natural-born U.S. Citizen, since this would set a precedent. Stay tuned to your TV sets because I suspect some of this information will be leaking through over the next several days.
Well right but I’m saying the is he even qualified to be a Senator? When he ran, did he have to prove citizenship in some way?
This whole story reeks of desperation. Time to let it go.
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