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To: K-oneTexas

Your points are well taken however,

1. There is nothing private about the certificate number. The Decosta BC shows the year she was born, and perhaps the number of births up to that time. What is private about that. It comes that the document is traceable.

2. McCain produced everything, and I’m sure this was vetted when he ran four years ago. Why are we pulling teeth here with the Obama Camp, and why did he wait until Hillary was out of the picture?

3. Everything that we know about Obama is from his own auto-bio. Conspicuously lacking are eye witnesses of his early life and his family here in the USA.

4. The grandmother is sequestered. Why?

5. I would think providing proof that you qualify to run for the office of president is determined by Congress? or is the courts? Has this process taken place?

6. The KOS BC is a certificate of live birth, it is NOT the original birth certificate. Where is the original birth certificate? I would think it’s on microfiche.

7. I have searched using pay sites such as Ancestry.com and have found NO listing for Obama or his mother’s marriage. True, this doesn’t prove anything, but it seems odd doesn’t it?

8. Why is it that two hospitals are listed as his place of birth. Wikipedia lists Kapliolani Medical Center, and other sites list Queens Hospital.

9. I’ve seen posts, and I think this is also on The ObamaFile website, where it is “rumored” that Kenyan family members told media early on that Obama was born there. Libya’s Kaddafi says he was born in Kenya and that Obama is lying about it.

10. I would think that as we speak the FBI or Homeland Security or someone has agents on this subject. As a law enforcement officer what say you?


80 posted on 07/01/2008 2:36:46 PM PDT by nikos1121 (The first black president of the US should be a Jackie Robinson, not a Jackie come lately.)
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To: nikos1121
I'm not trying to argue.

 

1. There is nothing private about the certificate number. The Decosta BC shows the year she was born, and perhaps the number of births up to that time. What is private about that. It comes that the document is traceable. Just an observation based on the Hawaiian statute, a lawyer I'm not.. Possibly the lady left hers on, where another person might black it out if he/she were going to put it on the internet or other public presentation.

2. McCain produced everything, and I’m sure this was vetted when he ran four years ago. Why are we pulling teeth here with the Obama Camp, and why did he wait until Hillary was out of the picture? Then why did it crop up again on Free Republic and other places in the last 60-90 days. Some will never be satisfied.

3. Everything that we know about Obama is from his own auto-bio. Conspicuously lacking are eye witnesses of his early life and his family here in the USA. True. As I said earlier I was never voting for him I don't give a crap about his Bio.

4. The grandmother is sequestered. Why? Your asking the wrong people. Those you need to ask most likely will not answer, unless a court of law forces them to.

5. I would think providing proof that you qualify to run for the office of president is determined by Congress? or is the courts? Has this process taken place? It must have in Illinois, but what does the elecction board do there?

6. The KOS BC is a certificate of live birth, it is NOT the original birth certificate. Where is the original birth certificate? I would think it’s on microfiche. Only the State of Hawaii and the individual know ... evidently neither is talking.

7. I have searched using pay sites such as Ancestry.com and have found NO listing for Obama or his mother’s marriage. True, this doesn’t prove anything, but it seems odd doesn’t it? His parent may have been married overseas in a foreign country, say Indonesia. Just speculation.

8. Why is it that two hospitals are listed as his place of birth. Wikipedia lists Kapliolani Medical Center, and other sites list Queens Hospital. Information is only as good as the provider.

9. I’ve seen posts, and I think this is also on The ObamaFile website, where it is “rumored” that Kenyan family members told media early on that Obama was born there. Libya’s Kaddafi says he was born in Kenya and that Obama is lying about it. Only way to force this issue is in the courts ... which court and judge will accept jurisdiction?

10. I would think that as we speak the FBI or Homeland Security or someone has agents on this subject. As a law enforcement officer what say you? I would think a federal law enforcement agency would be involved if a statute they enforce was thought to be broken or a US Attorney is investigating. Otherwise they would not verify the the Birth Cetrificate just to verify it or detemine fraud. I don't believe we have an Grand Jury indictment or an investigation.

 

I'm not 'sticking up for him' or brushing aside you questions. Much of what you as is outside the realm of the general population answering, they just add fuel to the fire. As evidenced by the McCain 'haters' who will do anyhting to get a candidate other than him in the GOP. That said, Obama has the ability to stop all this by personnally releasing any documents requested, also the State of Hawaii could release a certified copy, as I would also think its on microfische, with Obama's permission. See how well that worked with Kerry.

Also, this all pre-supposes that he was born in Hawaii and not brought there soon after his birth. There are rumors as you stated. I don't follow him and his family regularly, I thought his Mother and Father had passed away. So I'd say that his grandmother and grandfather would know and could say as I think they are still alive and they could talk even if he said not to ... then again they may remain silent if he asks. If not, it's up to Obama and theState of Hawaii. I don't believe any federal law enforcement ageny would open an investigation nor would any US Attorney's Office. For sure, Congress will not hold hearings. A news organization may be able to force the issue under a Freedom Of Information suit, federally or under Hawaiian statute and force it's issuance. Again a lawyer needs to weigh in.

 This may be an issue that will forever hang fire and not be resolved.

103 posted on 07/01/2008 3:25:29 PM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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