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Plasma, LCDs blamed for accelerating global warming
ABC News ^ | 7-3-08

Posted on 07/03/2008 7:34:00 AM PDT by Babu

A gas used in the making of flat screen televisions, nitrogen trifluoride (NF3), is being blamed for damaging the atmosphere and accelerating global warming.

Almost half of the televisions sold around the globe so far this year have been plasma or LCD TVs.

But this boom could be coming at a huge environmental cost.

The gas, widely used in the manufacture of flat screen TVs, is estimated to be 17,000 times as powerful as carbon dioxide.

Ironically, NF3 is not covered by the Kyoto protocol as it was only produced in tiny amounts when the treaty was signed in 1997.

Levels of this gas in the atmosphere have not been measured, but scientists say it is a concern and are calling for it to be included in any future emissions cutting agreement.

Professor Michael Prather from the University of California has highlighted the issue in an article for the magazine New Scientist.

He has told ABC's The World Today program that output of the gas needs to be measured.

"One of my titles for this paper was Going Below Kyoto's Radar. It's the kind of gas that's made in huge amounts," he said.

"Not only is it not in the Kyoto Treaty but you don't even have to report it. That's the part that worries me."

He estimates 4,000 tons of NF3 will be produced in 2008 and that number is likely to double next year.

"We don't know what's emitted, but what they're producing every year dwarfs these giant coal-fired power plants that are like the biggest in the world," he said.

"And it dwarfs two of the Kyoto gases. So the real question we don't know is how much is escaping and getting out."

Dr Paul Fraser is the chief research scientist at the CSIRO's marine and atmospheric research centre, and an IPCC author.

He says without measuring the quantity of NF3 in the atmosphere it is unclear what impact it will have on the climate.

"We haven't observed it in the atmosphere. It's probably there in very low concentrations," he said.

"The key to whether it's a problem or not is how much is released to the atmosphere."


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agw; climatechange; environment; michaelprather
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Ah Jeez ... Another sky is falling glowbull warm-ring problem that can only be solved by absolut Wurld Goobermint control, doncha know.

I'm sure the researcher got some nice fat goobermint grants to come up with that conclusion.

1 posted on 07/03/2008 7:34:02 AM PDT by Babu
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To: ShadowAce

Tech Ping


2 posted on 07/03/2008 7:35:08 AM PDT by Babu
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To: Babu
Bottom line: humans cause global warming, therefore all non-essential humans must be eliminated.

This is not a joke.

3 posted on 07/03/2008 7:35:08 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Public policy should never become the captive of a scientific-technological elite. -- Ike Eisenhower)
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To: Babu

Geez. Will Al Gore give up his big screen TV? Of course not, he will just buy more carbon credits.


4 posted on 07/03/2008 7:35:29 AM PDT by TommyDale (I) (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: Babu
Sauerkraut gives me gas, can we blame that to?
5 posted on 07/03/2008 7:35:35 AM PDT by Pylon (Remember boys, flies spread disease, so keep yours closed.)
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To: Babu

Cry me a fookin’ river!


6 posted on 07/03/2008 7:35:43 AM PDT by NRA1995 (It should be called "Cosa Nostra", not "Congress")
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To: Babu

Just another example of how they’d like to reduce our lifestyle and are using the global warming scam as a cover.


7 posted on 07/03/2008 7:37:04 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Babu

Point to ponder....why has global COOLING arrived with the increased amount of plasma/flat-screen TV’s? HMMMMMMM???


8 posted on 07/03/2008 7:37:23 AM PDT by NRA1995 (It should be called "Cosa Nostra", not "Congress")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You are a plague..."

-- Agent Smith character in the movie The Matrix

9 posted on 07/03/2008 7:37:49 AM PDT by ikka
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To: Babu

I bet Arnold and Al Gore have several huge TVs like this (that they leave on all night).


10 posted on 07/03/2008 7:38:24 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (The road to hell is paved with the stones of pragmatism.)
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To: Babu
Problem : Solution

Global Cooling : Restrain the American Economy
Global Warming : Restrain the American Economy
Climate Change : Restrain the American Economy
A byproduct of production that no one has even measured yet in the atmosphere : Restrain the American Economy

I'm starting to sense a pattern here...

11 posted on 07/03/2008 7:39:09 AM PDT by pgyanke ("Huntered"--The act of being ignored by media and party to prevent name recognition)
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To: ElkGroveDan

“Signed in 1997”? Um, no!


12 posted on 07/03/2008 7:39:10 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Babu

More crapola from the nut fringe....Congress adds to global warming more than any TV does.


13 posted on 07/03/2008 7:39:45 AM PDT by The Wizard (DemonRATS: enemies of America)
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The gas, widely used in the manufacture of flat screen TVs, is estimated to be 17,000 times as powerful as carbon dioxide.

For the math and intellectualy-challenged out there, as a public service, I would like to remind them that 17,000 times zero is zero.

Now, Nitrogen, that's a potential world-killer!

Just saying...

14 posted on 07/03/2008 7:39:55 AM PDT by Publius6961 (You're Government, it's not your money, and you never have to show a profit.)
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To: MrB

Just another example of how they’d like to reduce our lifestyle and are using the global warming scam as a cover.


They want to relegate the United States to Third World status.


15 posted on 07/03/2008 7:40:19 AM PDT by unkus
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To: Babu

The Left won’t be happy until we are reduced to telling stories around a camp fire - but without the camp fire. What would that be? 1,000,000 years ago?


16 posted on 07/03/2008 7:40:23 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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"We don't know what's emitted, but what they're producing every year dwarfs these giant coal-fired power plants that are like the biggest in the world," he said.

Like, do you not, like, know how to write an' stuff? He states that the emissions content is unknown while also stating that the unknown emissions are greater than eeeeeviiiil coal-fired plants. I need a drink.
17 posted on 07/03/2008 7:40:50 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Babu

More liking he’s trying to get funding by creating an “issue that needs further study”. We’ve gone from the “______ believed to cause cancer” to “______ believed to contribute to global warming” fund raising effort.


18 posted on 07/03/2008 7:41:10 AM PDT by PogySailor (We're so screwed.....)
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To: Publius6961
Oh darn!
I forgot about Hydrogen-dioxide.
I'll save that one for a later thread.
19 posted on 07/03/2008 7:41:10 AM PDT by Publius6961 (You're Government, it's not your money, and you never have to show a profit.)
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To: Pylon

When ever I get plugged up I eat a jar of sauerkraut that does the trick. Warning Warning danger.


20 posted on 07/03/2008 7:41:25 AM PDT by boomop1
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