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A New American Reality: Government As Provider (Fannie/Freddie Rescue, Full-Blown Socialism)
International Herald Tribune ^

Posted on 07/13/2008 7:29:42 PM PDT by quesney

NEW YORK: In a country that holds itself up as a citadel of free enterprise, Washington has morphed from being the lender of last resort into effectively the only resort for home loans for millions of Americans engaged in the largest transactions of their lives.

Before, the government's more modest mission was to make more loans available at lower rates. Now it is to make sure the loans that matter most to middle class Americans are made at all.

The new reality is scorned by libertarians and conservatives, who fear intrusions by the state in the market, and by populists and progressives, who rue a society in which education and housing increasingly rest upon the government's willingness to finance it.

"If you're a socialist, you should be happy," said Michael Lind, a fellow at the New America Foundation, a research institute in Washington. "But you should really wonder whether you want people's ability to pay for housing and college dependent on the motives of people in Washington."

Why is this happening? Much of the private money that once surged into the mortgage industry has fled in a panicked horde, leaving most of the responsibility for financing American homes to the government-sponsored Fannie and Freddie.

(Excerpt) Read more at iht.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: bailout; fanniemae; freddiemac; socialism
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The U.S. is rapidly sliding toward socialism, and the Republic established by the Founding Fathers is unrecognizable, bordering on dead.

It is a very sad day. Be afraid. Be very afraid.

1 posted on 07/13/2008 7:29:42 PM PDT by quesney
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To: quesney

The really scary thing is that Obama isn’t even president yet.


2 posted on 07/13/2008 7:30:47 PM PDT by quesney
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To: quesney

Not a good precedent.


3 posted on 07/13/2008 7:34:04 PM PDT by allmost
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To: quesney

Remember that Wall Street Journal headline after the Bear Stearns bailout? “Ten Days That Changed Capitalism.”


4 posted on 07/13/2008 7:35:47 PM PDT by kc8ukw
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To: quesney

The real scarry thing is no one takes on these issues except by replies here. Are you all ready for a active revolution? Ans: no.


5 posted on 07/13/2008 7:36:50 PM PDT by Digger (If RINO is your selection, then failure is your election)
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To: quesney

The hypocrisy of the U.S. in this case is overwhelming. Money quotes from IHT article:


For a generation, U.S. policy makers have lectured the world on the need to unleash the animal instincts of the market. China’s rickety banks should stop lending to protect state factory jobs, Americans said, and focus on the bottom line. Now the Bush administration is reluctantly concluding that Fannie and Freddie might need to be propped up to protect the U.S. homeowner.

During much of Japan’s lost decade of the 1990s, Americans called for an end to the nation’s coddling of weak banks. Better to let them keel over, along with the paper tiger companies they sustained. No company was “too big to fail,” Washington said.



6 posted on 07/13/2008 7:36:56 PM PDT by quesney
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It frustrates me that I work hard to pay my mortgage, have never missed a payment, and understand the value of my investment. I know my mortgage was sold on the secondary market and is now part of a failing financial institution that must receive a bailout.

Now, here's were this story is most troubling...Fanny and Freddie ARE government institutions. Are we witnessing an incredible, historic, unprecedented concentration of control and wealth that is being under or mis-reported by the media????? That's my bet.
7 posted on 07/13/2008 7:40:02 PM PDT by cliniclinical (space for rent)
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To: quesney

Fascism/socialism. Taxpayers get raped “for our own good”. Again. More inflation, more debt, more taxes, more spending.


8 posted on 07/13/2008 7:42:19 PM PDT by M203M4 (True Universal Suffrage: Pets of dead illegal-immigrant felons voting Democrat (twice))
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To: quesney

But what’s the alternative? There really isn’t one, unless we want to return to a system where only the wealthy can buy houses (with cash) for the next 20 years while things shake out.

However, the only reason the government has to be involved now is because they got involved in the first place.


9 posted on 07/13/2008 7:43:42 PM PDT by RockinRight (I just paid $63 for gas. An icefield in Alaska is NOT the Grand Canyon. F--- the caribou.)
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We’re either gonna get raped by taxes and inflation, or by mass unemployment and a depression.


10 posted on 07/13/2008 7:44:35 PM PDT by RockinRight (I just paid $63 for gas. An icefield in Alaska is NOT the Grand Canyon. F--- the caribou.)
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To: quesney

anything that is done keep fannie and freddie solvent will likely be temporary and is not “socialistic” at all, necessarily; and for the IHT, the global version of the NYT, to say it is ought to make people wonder what their trying to distract from.


11 posted on 07/13/2008 7:47:07 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (maybe apes evolved from people.)
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The corruption of wall street during the Bush years has unfortunately reached monumental proportions. The pendelum is now swinging all the way to the other side.If the SEc was not so dirty and corrupt-we could have avoided all this imo


12 posted on 07/13/2008 7:49:13 PM PDT by lincolnton
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It frustrates me that I work hard to pay my mortgage, have never missed a payment, and understand the value of my investment. I know my mortgage was sold on the secondary market and is now part of a failing financial institution that must receive a bailout.

Now, here's were this story is most troubling...Fanny and Freddie ARE government institutions. Are we witnessing an incredible, historic, unprecedented concentration of control and wealth that is being under or mis-reported by the media????? That's my bet.

I'm curious as to just how this is going to negatively affect you?

13 posted on 07/13/2008 7:53:35 PM PDT by billva
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To: the invisib1e hand
The article never mentioned one prominent reason for where we are today. Banks were pressured to make loans to prove they weren't racist, and I'm sure there perks thrown in to sweeten the pot.

Had government never meddled in the first place, we'd be ok. I can't believe anything they do to clean up their own mess will be helpful in the end.

14 posted on 07/13/2008 8:00:33 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: cliniclinical

What I wonder is what happens as these collatoralizations of home loans fail. It tentatively looks like a house mortgage is owned by bank A but sold as a secured debt to bank B who chopped it up and mixed it up and those pieces are owned by C, D, E and pensions funds.
When the money is needed by these banks, who exactly gets to repossess the house? And when the house is repo’d, who specifically gets paid?

Best personal solution I can think of is sell anything and everything to pay off your house.


15 posted on 07/13/2008 8:00:33 PM PDT by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Sirat: Through the Fires of Hell" - on amazon.com)
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To: quesney

Don’t know much about Alexander Hamilton do ya?


16 posted on 07/13/2008 8:02:01 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: lincolnton

The SEC can’t even do its job because the Dems won’t even have confirmation hearings for candidates Bush has put forward.

How about some links to back up your “corruption” claims.


17 posted on 07/13/2008 8:05:27 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: cliniclinical

Not quite - FNM was chartered by congress in 1938, but in 1968 was privatized. Now its being publicized again, sorta.


18 posted on 07/13/2008 8:05:46 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: billva
If you mean in terms of my personal mortgage, it will not.

The point of the first paragraph ties a bit with the second. MBS are a major financial backbone in the US. It's just another version of the classic technique; create the problem through purposeful action, then offer a solution to said problem that is unfavorable, but 'necessary'. Done correctly, the innocent never realize they gave away their freedom to the very institutions that created the problem in the first place.

It's open war on America, right now. And it looks like we are going to lose without a single shot being fired...
19 posted on 07/13/2008 8:09:02 PM PDT by cliniclinical (space for rent)
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To: quesney
They took the Sheeple by the short-hairs when FDR/LBJ deliberately designed a system where their wealth & livelihood is dependent on how much the Benovelent Jack-Asses in D.C. decide to dole out.

Check & Mate!

20 posted on 07/13/2008 8:14:08 PM PDT by babbabooey
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