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CNN exclusive: Obama on foreign policy - (Obama believes jihad is a result of U.S. foreign policy)
cnn.com ^ | July 13, 2008

Posted on 07/13/2008 7:45:00 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

(CNN) -- Sen. Barack Obama discussed his vision for the world in a wide-ranging foreign policy discussion with CNN's Fareed Zakaria.

The Democratic presidential hopeful answered some tough questions about how he would deal with the world's crises, what he would do if Osama bin Laden is caught and his plan for Iraq.

Here are some highlights from the interview, which aired Sunday on "Fareed Zakaria -- GPS."

ZAKARIA: Tell me, what is your first memory of a foreign policy event that shaped you, shaped your life?

OBAMA: A first memory. Well, you know, it wasn't so much an event.

I mean, my first memory was my mother coming to me and saying, "I've remarried this man from Indonesia, and we're moving to Jakarta on the other side of the world."

And that's, I think, my first memory of understanding how big the world was. And then, flying there and landing. This was only maybe a year, or even less than a year, after an enormous coup, the military coup in which we learned later that over half-a-million people had probably died.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2008; elections; foreignpolicy; issues; jihad; obama; wot
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1 posted on 07/13/2008 7:46:34 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY
It isn't to say that there is a direct correlation, but what is absolutely true is that there has been a shift in Islam that I believe is connected to the failures of governments and the failures of the West to work with many of these countries, in order to make sure that opportunities are there, that there's bottom-up economic growth.

Oh, not enough money.

He's telling us that he will agree to extortion.

2 posted on 07/13/2008 7:51:41 PM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Blame America first...no surprise there.


3 posted on 07/13/2008 7:55:16 PM PDT by mkmensinger
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To: Free ThinkerNY
(CNN) -- Sen. Barack Obama discussed his vision for the world in a wide-ranging foreign policy discussion with CNN's Fareed Zakaria

Wow, what an in depth interview that must have been! I hope that Zakaria was wearing his extra thick kneepads. After reading this Muslim puke in Newsweek for years, I'm sure he needed them.

4 posted on 07/13/2008 7:56:16 PM PDT by appleharvey
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To: Free ThinkerNY

There was jihad before there was an America.


5 posted on 07/13/2008 7:56:39 PM PDT by airborne (God gives us countless opportunities! It's up to us to use them wisely!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

All he needs is a white flag.


6 posted on 07/13/2008 7:56:47 PM PDT by jackv (DEMOCRATS HATE BUSH MORE THAN THEY LOVE THEIR COUNTRY!!!)
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To: raybbr; expatguy
You beat me to it. That's the quote that struck me the same way.

PINGING Expatguy!!!!

7 posted on 07/13/2008 7:58:38 PM PDT by Chgogal (Voting "Present" 130 times might be a sign of a smart politician. It is not a sign of a good leader.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA



8 posted on 07/13/2008 7:59:06 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: raybbr

If BHO had been the President during the Barbary Pirate era, he would have apologized to the Sultans and drained the Treasury dry to pay tributes and ransoms to them.


9 posted on 07/13/2008 8:03:06 PM PDT by princeofdarkness (Barack Hussein Obama- The Only Candidate Who Makes John Kerry Look Steadfast and Principled.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Most interesting.


10 posted on 07/13/2008 8:07:34 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: Free ThinkerNY

So Saddam Hussein’s human shredding machines were our fault?

The gassing of the Khurds was our fault?

Sudan, our fault?

Zimbabwe, our fault?


11 posted on 07/13/2008 8:07:39 PM PDT by Carley
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To: Free ThinkerNY

12 posted on 07/13/2008 8:09:10 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
This guy believes every single word Wright ever spoke.

On several occasions Obama has expressed exactly the same ideas as Wright, Obama just knows how to sneak them in slower.

13 posted on 07/13/2008 8:09:27 PM PDT by ryan71 (Typical bitter white gun toter)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
“I've remarried this man from Indonesia”

Balderdash! Mama ‘Bama never “re”married, because Lolo Soetoro was her first and only husband.

14 posted on 07/13/2008 8:10:18 PM PDT by Ratblaster ("White folks greed runs a world in need" B Hussein Obama The Muslim Magic Negro)
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To: Travis McGee

I thought the addition of an afro for Michelle was interesting...

I think her thesis at Princeton centered on her determination to “stay black”.

So I wonder why she straightens her hair?


15 posted on 07/13/2008 8:13:19 PM PDT by ryan71 (Typical bitter white gun toter)
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To: ryan71

16 posted on 07/13/2008 8:14:49 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY ((((Stop the Obamanation!))))
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"OBAMA: I think the problems of terrorism and groups that are resisting modernity, whether because of their ethnic identities or religious identities, and the fact that they can be driven into extremist ideologies, is one of the severe threats that we face.

"I don't think it's the only threat that we face."

So, who does Barak Hussein Obama mean when he says "we"?

Not Americans, apparently since his battle line is not between the free world and its enemies -- it is between the forces of "modernity" and those who refuse to accept his concept of what "modernity" means.

17 posted on 07/13/2008 8:20:28 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Ratblaster

Obama’s mama was a bit of a slut?


18 posted on 07/13/2008 8:22:21 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Of course he thinks jihad is America’s fault. Isn’t that what Jeremiah Wright told him every week in “church?”


19 posted on 07/13/2008 8:22:30 PM PDT by Interesting Times (Swiftboating, you say? Check out ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I think his foreign policy is to talk our enemies to death.

He is so clueless, it’s painful.

Or maybe it isn’t cluelessness, it’s blaming America first for everything that goes wrong in the world. And some people want to elect this anti-American as president of the US?!


20 posted on 07/13/2008 8:24:51 PM PDT by FocusNexus ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: BenLurkin

The timeline doesn’t work.
His mother married, divorced, got pregnant and had BO then remarried by 18?
Or married, got pregnant and had BO then divorced and got remarried by 18?
Something is wrong with his timeline.


21 posted on 07/13/2008 8:26:37 PM PDT by smoketree (the insanity, the lunacy these days)
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To: smoketree

Even taking his statement at face value — it seems odd that a woman would remarry and the first ther child hears of him is right before the wedding.

Who would do that to their kid?


22 posted on 07/13/2008 8:28:59 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: ryan71

I’m sure Oprah will ask her that very question.

When pigs fly over Mecca.


23 posted on 07/13/2008 8:31:11 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Well, he’s just saying what most liberals in America believe. To the left, the 911 attack was a stroke of well-deserved justice, like a bully getting punched in the nose. That’s why they have no enthusiasm for the war on terror. To them, the terrorists have a legitimate gripe and our role should be to listen and accomodate, not to fight. It’s the “root causes” thing.


24 posted on 07/13/2008 8:33:20 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Free ThinkerNY
A first memory. Well, you know, it wasn't so much an event.

I mean, my first memory was my mother coming to me and saying, "I've remarried this man from Indonesia, and we're moving to Jakarta on the other side of the world."

Whoa! This send up the red flags. Think back. What is your first memory? Dollars to donuts it's a fleeting, disconnected snap shot that took place about the age two or three, i.e. "I remember my dad coming down the stairs...","I remember a Christmas tree...", "I remember walking through some leaves..."

If OB says first memory is his mother saying "I've remarried and we're moving to Jakarta..." either he's a bold face lying, or he's admitting he was pretty far behind when it came to early childhood development.

What a choice.

25 posted on 07/13/2008 8:37:55 PM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: BenLurkin

Another good point.
It just makes no sense.
Then you have to ask where was he born? Was he born during the first marriage or between marriages 1 and 2?


26 posted on 07/13/2008 8:38:05 PM PDT by smoketree (the insanity, the lunacy these days)
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To: Yardstick

And the jihadi’s knew America would be so terrible when Islam was founded in what the seventh century and they’ve just been practicing ever since then?


27 posted on 07/13/2008 8:40:50 PM PDT by smoketree (the insanity, the lunacy these days)
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To: raybbr

“It isn’t to say that there is a direct correlation, but what is absolutely true is that there has been a shift in Islam that I believe is connected to the failures of governments and the failures of the West to work with many of these countries, in order to make sure that opportunities are there, that there’s bottom-up economic growth.”

Isn’t this more or less the same thing that Bush has been saying, that we have to bring democracy and economic hope to the Middle East so that radical Islam will loose its grip? Sounds like, once again, he’s trying to co-opt a Republican idea.


28 posted on 07/13/2008 8:41:30 PM PDT by vanishing liberty
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To: Free ThinkerNY
The Democratic presidential hopeful answered some tough questions about how he would deal with the world's crises

Wow....I wonder if CNN's journalistic standards require any followup questions which will force candidates to get off rehearsed answers and actually justify their answers? It sure didn't happen in this interview.

29 posted on 07/13/2008 8:42:19 PM PDT by GOPyouth ("Change that works for Him!")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

How could someone major in INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS and not learn to speak at least ONE foreign language semi-fluently?


30 posted on 07/13/2008 8:45:55 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: raybbr
He's asked about "your first memory of a foreign policy event that shaped you..." and he has no answer to the question = instead deflects again, intimating that moving to Jakarta as a young boy can be counted for foreign policy experience.

And once again, his English is faulty: "was my mother coming to me and saying, "I've remarried this man from Indonesia..."

It should be either "I've married again..." or "She told me she had remarried..." - but she didn't, I presume, remarry the Indonesian man.

But then, what do I know. I didn't graduate from Harvard.

31 posted on 07/13/2008 8:48:53 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (No trees were killed in sending this message but a large number of electrons were terrible agitated)
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To: BenLurkin
I never said that, but she was only 17 when Daddy O’ knocked err blessed her with his seed.
I've never seen evidence that his parents were married.
32 posted on 07/13/2008 8:48:53 PM PDT by Ratblaster ("White folks greed runs a world in need" B Hussein Obama The Muslim Magic Negro)
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To: yankeedame

“If OB says first memory is his mother saying “I’ve remarried and we’re moving to Jakarta...” either he’s a bold face lying, or he’s admitting he was pretty far behind when it came to early childhood development.
What a choice.”

My first memory was getting tangled up in some pea vines. It was heck. To be fair, though, the interviewer asked him “...what is your first memory of a foreign policy event that shaped you..? Uh, let’s see.


33 posted on 07/13/2008 8:52:46 PM PDT by vanishing liberty
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Islamic Jihad has a lot more to do with Leftist domestic and social policies, particularly the pervasive, inescapable public hypersexualization of everything, along with rampant promiscuity, perversion and permissiveness. The main connection to foreign policy has to do with the extreme weakness projected by the Clinton Administration as well as by the present Democrat party and liberal media positions favoring avoidance of conflict at any cost.

This stuff is not complicated or difficult to understand, and we HAVE TO explain it to the people around us, in person. When they hear it explained, they generally understand.


34 posted on 07/13/2008 8:54:44 PM PDT by Humble Servant
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To: vanishing liberty
"Sounds like, once again, he’s trying to co-opt a Republican idea. "

Yep. it's an elitist, globalist, marxist tranfer of wealth of the "rich" to the "poor" nations. Both parties are at fault.

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"Americans found that instability and lawlessness in a distant country can bring danger to our own. In this new century, we are less threatened by fleets and armies than by small cells of men who operate in the shadows and exploit weakness and despair. The ultimate answer to those threats is to encourage prosperous, democratic and lawful societies that join us in overcoming the forces of terror -- allies that we're finding across the continent of Africa. We fight the war on terror with our power; we will win the war on terror with freedom and justice and hope. "

"In a developing world, we have an unprecedented opportunity to help other nations achieve historic victories over extreme poverty with policies and approaches that are tested and proven. These victories will require new resources. The United States has tripled overseas development aid to Africa during my presidency. And we're making a strong commitment for the future. Between 2004 and 2010, I proposed to double aid to Africa once again, with a primary focus on helping reforming countries."President Bush, Meyer Auditorium at Freer Gallery June 30, 2005

35 posted on 07/13/2008 8:55:42 PM PDT by endthematrix (Congress, Get Off Your Gas, And Drill!)
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To: raybbr
It isn't to say that there is a direct correlation, but what is absolutely true is that there has been a shift in Islam that I believe is connected to the failures of governments and the failures of the West to work with many of these countries, in order to make sure that opportunities are there, that there's bottom-up economic growth.

Oh those poor Saudi's. They're so pooor - maybe we should set up a Marshall Plan to rescue the Arabian peninsula countries from their grinding poverty - give them opportunities for economic growth.

What was that? The greatest transfer of wealth in history, to the oil-rich countries? Yes, yes that's what we need. How come no one thought of that?

36 posted on 07/13/2008 8:57:49 PM PDT by BusterBear
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To: vanishing liberty

And since when does moving to another country at age four or five classify as foreign policy experience?
Did he know what the foreign policy of America was at that time so he could compare or know what to look for?


37 posted on 07/13/2008 8:57:52 PM PDT by smoketree (the insanity, the lunacy these days)
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To: petitfour
...yoU can gradiate froM hight skool and not lurn a darn thing...
38 posted on 07/13/2008 8:59:47 PM PDT by endthematrix (Congress, Get Off Your Gas, And Drill!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
There are so many things in this interview that just scream out how naive this guy is. He has no business being considered for POTUS.

All of the things that he complains the Bush administration did wrong with Afghanistan, that we didn't finish the job when we had the Taliban and al Qaeda on the ropes, is exactly what he will do in Iraq. Now that it is beginning to look like we have the terrorists beat he will pull the troops out.

In a few of the gems of Obama wisdom:
We need to show leadership through consensus and through pulling people together wherever we can.

My point is this, that we should always strive to create genuine coalitions -- not coalitions that are based on us twisting arms, withholding goodies, ignoring legitimate concerns of other countries, but coalitions that are based on a set of mutual self-interests.

In a situation like Darfur, I think that the world has a self-interest in ensuring that genocide is not taking place on our watch.

Just like they did with Rawanda, the UN will be content to issue statements condemning the actions but when it comes to actually doing something about it there just isn't enough self-interest to send in the troops.

It takes a lot of arm twisting and withholding goodies to get other countries to do what is needed. If it was anything like this idiot thinks, the UN would be a great tool for keeping the world a place where free people can thrive and prosper. In reality, the self-interests of governments that rule the UN is to let the tyrants and terrorists kill whomever they please as long as they can continue to extract their own fortunes from their subjects in their own little corner of the world unmolested.

39 posted on 07/13/2008 8:59:54 PM PDT by eggman (Read it on Free Republic tonight, see it on the network news when the DNC sends them the copy.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
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40 posted on 07/13/2008 8:59:57 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: BusterBear

The guy is a millionth of an inch thick and miles wide.
The simplest scratch and he disappears.


41 posted on 07/13/2008 9:03:52 PM PDT by smoketree (the insanity, the lunacy these days)
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To: smoketree
Then you have to ask where was he born? Was he born during the first marriage or between marriages 1 and 2?

Considering that obamination Sr. already had a wife in Africa = were they ever married?

This may be some of the information he doesn't want seen - along with what his name was on the birth cert....

Did he acquire the two very Muslim/Arab names of Barrack and Hussein on his first visit to meet with his Kenya family - Muslims - who gave him the names? (He was, at the time, if we believe his writings, searching for his identity...and then, deciding he was black, he had to prove he was black enough...

What's the name on the BC, Barry?

42 posted on 07/13/2008 9:05:19 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (No trees were killed in sending this message but a large number of electrons were terrible agitated)
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To: raybbr
" ... but what is absolutely true is that there has been a shift in Islam that I believe is connected to the failures of governments and the failures of the West to work with many of these countries, in order to make sure that opportunities are there, that there's bottom-up economic growth."

Why do Democrats continue to believe militant Islam is driven by economic situations when Mohammad Atta and many of the other September 11th hijackers were middle-class college-educated Arabs.

Second, why is it the West's responsibility to "make sure that opportunities are" available in the Islamic world. It is an asinine statement.

43 posted on 07/13/2008 9:06:20 PM PDT by magellan
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To: maine-iac7

Does he have an American BC?
Why does the question persist?


44 posted on 07/13/2008 9:09:33 PM PDT by smoketree (the insanity, the lunacy these days)
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To: Plutarch

45 posted on 07/13/2008 9:10:01 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (No trees were killed in sending this message but a large number of electrons were terrible agitated)
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To: magellan
This is a post on the New Yorker article Making It. He made the statement shortly after 911.


To: pabianice
The article takes the following statement by Obama about 9/11 from The Hyde Park Herald

Even as I hope for some measure of peace and comfort to the bereaved families, I must also hope that we as a nation draw some measure of wisdom from this tragedy. Certain immediate lessons are clear, and we must act upon those lessons decisively. We need to step up security at our airports. We must reexamine the effectiveness of our intelligence networks. And we must be resolute in identifying the perpetrators of these heinous acts and dismantling their organizations of destruction.

We must also engage, however, in the more difficult task of understanding the sources of such madness. The essence of this tragedy, it seems to me, derives from a fundamental absence of empathy on the part of the attackers: an inability to imagine, or connect with, the humanity and suffering of others. Such a failure of empathy, such numbness to the pain of a child or the desperation of a parent, is not innate; nor, history tells us, is it unique to a particular culture, religion, or ethnicity. It may find expression in a particular brand of violence, and may be channeled by particular demagogues or fanatics. Most often, though, it grows out of a climate of poverty and ignorance, helplessness and despair.

We will have to make sure, despite our rage, that any U.S. military action takes into account the lives of innocent civilians abroad. We will have to be unwavering in opposing bigotry or discrimination directed against neighbors and friends of Middle Eastern descent. Finally, we will have to devote far more attention to the monumental task of raising the hopes and prospects of embittered children across the globe—children not just in the Middle East, but also in Africa, Asia, Latin America, Eastern Europe and within our own shores.

21 posted on 07/13/2008 5:57:18 PM PDT by Stentor

46 posted on 07/13/2008 9:35:28 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Obama is a classic liberal party-line Dem, meaning he adheres wholeheartedly to the “root causes” explanation of why foreign states are social and economic basket cases, and often downright pathological. By a remarkable coincidence, those “root causes” always manage to implicate the United States as the source of the worlds ills, great and small. No matter what the problem may be, you can be rest assured that the fault lies with the United States.
47 posted on 07/13/2008 10:03:23 PM PDT by mojito
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To: Stentor

He’s like a kid in a candy store thinking there is an endless supply and that it is just always there no matter how much he takes and since he is a geek he thinks he can give away an endless supply to the other kids so they will like him.


48 posted on 07/13/2008 10:07:03 PM PDT by smoketree (the insanity, the lunacy these days)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
It isn't to say that there is a direct correlation, but what is absolutely true is that there has been a shift in Islam that I believe is connected to the failures of governments and the failures of the West to work with many of these countries, in order to make sure that opportunities are there, that there's bottom-up economic growth.
Work with Islamists and pay the Jizya?
49 posted on 07/13/2008 10:23:34 PM PDT by rmlew (Liberalism is like AIDS; it destroys the natural defenses of a nation or civilization.)
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To: Travis McGee; Free ThinkerNY; Interesting Times; devolve; potlatch

50 posted on 07/13/2008 10:32:37 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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