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Obama website's opposition to successful surge gets deleted (MSM commentary....)
Los Angeles Times ^ | July 16, 2008 | -Andrew Malcolm

Posted on 07/16/2008 9:39:32 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

A funny thing happened over on the Barack Obama campaign website in the last few days.

The parts that stressed his opposition to the 2007 troop surge and his statement that more troops would make no difference in a civil war have somehow disappeared. John McCain and Obama have been going at it heavily in recent days over the benefits of the surge.

The Arizona senator, who advocated the surge for years before the Bush administration employed it, says the resulting reduction in violence is proof it worked with progress on 15 of 18 political benchmarks and Obama's plan to withdraw troops by now would have resulted in surrender.

When President Bush ordered the surge in January, 2007, Obama said, "I am not persuaded that 20,000 additional troops in Iraq is going to solve the sectarian violence there. In fact, I think it will do the reverse,"  a position he maintained throughout 2007. This year he acknowledged progress, but maintained his position that political progress was lacking.

Tuesday, while Obama gave a speech on foreign policy, the New York Daily News was first to notice the removal of parts of Obama's campaign site listing the Iraq troop surge as part of "The Problem." An Obama spokeswoman said it was just part of an "update" to "reflect changes in current events," as our colleague Frank James notes in the Swamp. The update includes a new section on the rise of al-Qaeda violence in Afghanistan.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimesblogs.latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2008; flipflop; flipflops; iraq; iraqsurge; mccain; obama; obamatruthfile; purge
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1 posted on 07/16/2008 9:39:33 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: jveritas; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; blam; SunkenCiv; Marine_Uncle; elhombrelibre; ...

fyi


2 posted on 07/16/2008 9:40:25 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Obama is soft on security. I wonder how well he would be polling if McCain were black.


3 posted on 07/16/2008 9:43:52 AM PDT by syriacus (Democrats got THEIR "change" in Election 2006. Are WE better off now?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

He was against it before he was for it..............


4 posted on 07/16/2008 9:44:24 AM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Rewriting history, a hallmark of communists, nazis, and fascists everywhere.

I am reminded of a post from an earlier Obama thread, which I’ll paraphrase:

“Obama makes me want to say the N-word. No, not that N-word. The N-word meaning the guys with double lightning bolts on their collars.”


5 posted on 07/16/2008 9:46:08 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A SOCIALIST WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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To: doorgunner69

If this sort of thing is any indication of how he will treat free expression as president then we are all in big trouble. But we knew that already. And his opponent isn’t so great on the issue either.


6 posted on 07/16/2008 9:49:41 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Obama’s website flip-flops as much as he does.


7 posted on 07/16/2008 9:49:42 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Here they come boys! As thick as grass, and as black as thunder!)
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To: snowrip
See this post # 21 on this thread:

Shift on war hits Obama's liberal base

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In talking about his plans to double the size of the Peace Corps and nearly quadruple the size of AmeriCorps and the size of the nation's military services, he made this rather shocking (and chilling) pledge: "We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."

8 posted on 07/16/2008 9:53:36 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: snowrip
I remember that thread. And like a pillock I assumed the N-word was "Nightwatch". Seems not everyone is a Babylon Five fan
9 posted on 07/16/2008 9:54:03 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

And, of course, there’s no link back to the archives. 1984, indeed, I can’t wait for the communist twit to go down in flames.


10 posted on 07/16/2008 9:54:55 AM PDT by Baladas ((ABBHO))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
An Obama spokeswoman said it was just part of an "update" to "reflect changes in current events,"

Update: Revisionist History

11 posted on 07/16/2008 10:02:06 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do it, but we're gonna getcha)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
I wonder if the GOP saved all those Flip-Flop things from the '04 convention?

Could be handy again this year..........

12 posted on 07/16/2008 10:06:53 AM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Down the memory hole...


13 posted on 07/16/2008 10:08:44 AM PDT by Happy Valley Dude
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To: BOBTHENAILER; doorgunner69; Happy Valley Dude
Last night's Hannity and Colmes had some nice videos of Obama making statements ...then and now....

And I posted a thread regarding a Blog working to build a list of Obama flip Flops...see If I can find it...

Here we go:

Your Assignment: Compile Obama’s Flip-Flops ( Patterico.com building a list)

14 posted on 07/16/2008 10:20:17 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: All
And From the Hot Air Blog:

Obama purges site of surge criticism

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posted at 9:15 am on July 15, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

Better late than never, I suppose.  Barack Obama has purged his website of criticism of the surge, and has now credited American troops with the security gains of the last year.  The move comes as John McCain repeatedly points out that Obama opposed the surge in January 2007 and said it would make the situation worse:

The presumed Democratic nominee replaced his Iraq issue Web page, which had described the surge as a “problem” that had barely reduced violence.

“The surge is not working,” Obama’s old plan stated, citing a lack of Iraqi political cooperation but crediting Sunni sheiks - not U.S. military muscle - for quelling violence in Anbar Province.

The News reported Sunday that insurgent attacks have fallen to the fewest since March 2004.

Obama’s campaign posted a new Iraq plan Sunday night, which cites an “improved security situation” paid for with the blood of U.S. troops since the surge began in February 2007. It praises G.I.s’ “hard work, improved counterinsurgency tactics and enormous sacrifice.”

The scrubbing took place this weekend, and it may signal more changes — or it may just be a way to prep for his upcoming trip to Iraq. If Obama appeared before the troops who defeated the terrorists in western Iraq, he may not get the reception he wants if his website kept discounting their hard work in the face of a despicable enemy. While the Sunni sheikhs have been a critical part of the success in Iraq, it was American tenacity which convinced them to switch sides.

The campaign says they regularly update the site to “reflect changes in current events”.  However, the Obama campaign has yet to acknowledge that the changes came from a strategy he opposed and that he predicted would fail.  Even more remarkably, he hasn’t changed his policy to incorporate the “changes in current events”.  Instead, he just retooled his demand for timetabled withdrawals with a sop to the troops.

What changes will we see on the Obama site when he returns from Iraq?  And will we have to compare caches in order to discover them, as the Daily News apparently did?

15 posted on 07/16/2008 10:29:15 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: All; Free ThinkerNY
Another related thread:

Is Obama Avoiding Facing the Military?

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Posted on Sun 13 Jul 2008 11:47:44 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

That’s how it appears:

A coalition of military groups is planning a nationally televised town-hall-style meeting with the presidential candidates near Fort Hood, Tex., the largest active-duty military installation in the country. But so far, only Senator John McCain of Arizona, the presumptive Republican nominee, has agreed to attend.

CBS has agreed to broadcast the meeting live from 9 to 11 p.m. Eastern time on Monday, Aug. 11. The candidates would face questions directly from an audience of 6,000 people, made up of veterans, service members and military families from the base.

Senator Barack Obama of Illinois, the presumptive Democratic nominee, has not agreed to participate.

Obama advisor Phil Carter says that Obama “unfortunately had a previously scheduled commitment on the date proposed.”

16 posted on 07/16/2008 10:35:27 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Patterico.com is going to have to upgrade their server farm in order to accomodate the ever GROWING list of flip-flops.


17 posted on 07/16/2008 10:53:57 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do it, but we're gonna getcha)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Senator Obama just isn't smart enough to be President of the US. Shanghaiing most of your opponents positions is pretty well understood in political circles. Us folks know when a candidates expressed opinion is not his own. So Mr. Obama was against the Surge until he was for it. And that was after it was successful.
18 posted on 07/16/2008 10:54:38 AM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulf BeachClub)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Fred Nerks; george76; ...

What a huge surprise. Thanks Ernest.


19 posted on 07/16/2008 10:56:22 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I seem to remember that Adolph Hitler has a “security force” just like that. I choose not to go there.
20 posted on 07/16/2008 10:57:53 AM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulf BeachClub)
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