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An Argument For An Armed Citizenry (Gang Assault at Valley Fair Amusement Park)
Power Line ^ | July 16, 2008 | John Hinderaker

Posted on 07/17/2008 8:16:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

A horrific news story has slowly made its way into the headlines here in the Twin Cities. A local resident, his wife and three daughters spent the evening of the Fourth of July at Valleyfair, a local amusement park. They were leaving the park at midnight when a criminal began to molest his twelve-year-old daughter.

The father intervened to defend his daughter, and the offender put out a call for his "homies." Eight "men" materialized and began to beat up the father. They knocked him to the ground and took turns stomping on his head. The man's wife and daughters tried to protect him, unsuccessfully, and Valleyfair's security guards apparently tried to help, but ineffectually.

The father is still hospitalized, but the criminals are out on bail. The family's name is being kept secret, lest the criminals find them and kill them to avoid prosecution.

Initially, the local media downplayed the story, presumably because of the race of the criminals. But today, the Minneapolis Star Tribune broke down and covered it. Still, the story was apparently too hot for the paper to allow comments; if you follow the link, you'll see that, contrary to the Star Tribune's usual policy, it is impossible to comment.

The story is an infuriating one in several ways, but what strikes me most forcibly is that it would have been a good thing if a few armed citizens had happened by while the assault was in progress. It's no surprise that the victim's wife and daughters couldn't protect him from eight "men," and apparently Valleyfair's security force is unarmed. So the optimal outcome here would have been for one or more normal citizens to pull a firearm, shoot a couple of the criminals, and hold the rest until the police arrived. Criminals who carry out outrageous assaults in public do so on the assumption that passersby will not be able to stop them. Absent firearms, that assumption is reasonable. So let's hear it for concealed carry.

Under Minnesota law, any business can ban guns on its premises, and, while a few minutes of research yielded nothing, I assume that Valleyfair bans guns, as most businesses that are open to the public do. This strikes me as a mistake. Against a gang such as the one that is now on the loose in the Twin Cities, only armed citizens can be effective.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; ccw; concealedcarry; gang; gangs; hinderaker; racerelations; secondamendment; selfdefense; sheeple; twincities
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To: Lord_Calvinus
Criminals are cowards that never practice.

The graveyard is full of people who assumed their opponents were morons.

61 posted on 07/18/2008 9:01:11 AM PDT by papertyger (Life is like a turtle on a fence post...)
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To: papertyger
"Then you shouldn't have any trouble citing sources as you should have before I had to ask."

I asked you to cite examples also yet you failed to provide one. However, I will be glad to provide examples of armed citizens confronting armed criminals and the perps taking off.

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2008/05/armed_homeowner_foils_burglary.html

http://carryconcealed.net/news/DA%3A+Easton+shooting+self-defense-N427.html?pagenum=1&search=pierce

http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=10476929&BRD=1671&PAG=461&dept_id=17782&rfi=6

Now where are your examples of criminals accosting a citizen who brandishes a firearm and then the criminal brandishes a firearm and starts shooting at them?
62 posted on 07/18/2008 11:43:29 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: papertyger
"The graveyard is full of people who assumed their opponents were morons."

The graveyard has even more bodies of citizens who were not armed and confronted by perps.
63 posted on 07/18/2008 11:46:47 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: papertyger

You think the graveyard is full of CCW shot by criminals????


64 posted on 07/18/2008 1:30:12 PM PDT by Lord_Calvinus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m a 6ft. tall, 375lb former soldier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Dadgummed! I am 6ft. and 4 in. and ONLY weigh 275, I didn’t realize how skinny I am 80)


65 posted on 07/18/2008 2:23:54 PM PDT by RipSawyer (What's black and white and red all over? Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

These “Chicago tourists” should be executed. They are rotten
to the core. The Evans bunch have been a blight on Minneapolis
since they arrived and have consumed a ton of law enforcement and court resources. Their chances at rehabilitation have long
run out. Hang ‘em.


66 posted on 07/20/2008 9:09:41 AM PDT by Fireone (Will the next Ronald Reagan please stand up!)
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To: Doc91678

I haven’t forgotten Newsom and Christian. Neither will thousands of Americans.....


67 posted on 08/14/2008 12:19:08 AM PDT by Doc91678 (Doc91678)
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