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papa. I tend to agree with you. NOt sure if it was one of ours or one of theirs, but something took out that plane.

Remember when Pierre Salinger who was in Paris, said he got reports that it was one of ours that took it out.

To be honest, I also think that the plane that crashed on the outskirts of NYC after 9/11. (sometime in Oct.) was also taken down. My guess a of the shoe bombers who succeeded.

To be honest, I also think that the plane that crashed on the outskirts of NYC after 9/11. (sometime in Oct.) was also taken down. My guess a of the shoe bombers who succeeded.

That particular plane went down because the tail fell off. And they know that because the tail was found a distance from the rest of the aircraft. Must have been on heck of a shoe bomb.

...the plane that crashed on the outskirts of NYC after 9/11. (sometime in Oct.) was also taken down..

I don't think that one, Flight 587, was. I watched a simulation done by the NTSB and Airbus that showed they could replicate what happened with the same results. Pilot error and a crappy design. The pilot made some 11 errors in less than 30 minutes, putting the plane in an untenable (for an Airbus A300) position.

Had Airbus done their homework more thoroughly, they could have seen this might happen. Had American trained their pilots more realistically on this Aircraft, this may not have happened.

NTSB determined that "because of its high sensitivity, the A300-600 rudder control system is susceptible to potentially hazardous rudder pedal inputs at higher speeds.

The NTSB also assigned a portion of the responsibility to American Airlines by indicating that their Advanced Aircraft Maneuvering Program tended to exaggerate the effects of wake turbulence on large aircraft. Therefore, pilots were being trained to react more aggressively than was necessary.