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The Hatfield 'n' McCoy vote
Townhall.com ^ | July 20, 2008 | Salena Zito

Posted on 07/20/2008 4:23:24 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Corin Stormhands
What I deeply resent is the insinuation that "pro-union" equates with being "non-racist."

That's not my insinuation, it is an insinuation of the enemedia-- which is why the examples I used was to hoist them on their own petards.

The motivations behind joining the Confederate or the Union side during the Civil War (or remaining neutral) were almost as varied as the people who made those choices.

Two bits of history the political elite love to suppress are these two facts:



41 posted on 07/20/2008 4:56:59 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Vigilanteman
You obviously know SW Virginia better than I do. But can you explain why the Appalachian Counties of Maryland (Garrett, Allegeny & Washington) had no problem voting for a black candidate, Michael Steele, in 2006?

I don't know anything about those three counties, but I suspect that although they are Appalachian Counties, they have not been as culturally isolated over the years from the national political scene as Southwest Virginia has, and are more much accepting of a black candidate.

SWVA is a region of extremes, and unfortunately, like I said in my last post, its people are still living in JFK and Lyndon Johnson's time politically, but have never gotten past the Civil Rights laws that were shoved down their throats. I know that it is a big contradiction since it was JFK and LBJ that did the shoving, but again, that's just the way it is there.

42 posted on 07/20/2008 5:01:18 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: Kaslin

The patriarch of my family, Devil Anse Hatfield, would roll in his grave if he knew any of his kin voted for a gun-grabber like Obama. I’m sure most of my friends in the McCoy family feel the same way.


43 posted on 07/20/2008 5:36:14 PM PDT by highimpact (Abortion - [n]: human sacrifice at the altar of convenience.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
If what you say is true and can be extrapolated into the larger body politic, then Obambi is in serious trouble and McCain is going to have to work hard to lose this election. Knowing McCain, however, I believe him to be fully capable of doing exactly that.
44 posted on 07/20/2008 6:36:22 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Kaslin

I wouldn’t count on the Webb voters to go lock-step for McCain. I met one last night. He proudly explained he would vote for a black man, then in the next sentence postulated that Clinton left the country in the best economic shape it had ever been in (he obviously never heard the words “dot com bubble”) and then launched into full-bore BDS.

Many democrats are gonna vote democrat no matter who the candidate is. “Mah Daddy wuz a Democrat, his Daddy wuz a Democrat, and I’m a Democrat”.

Gag.


45 posted on 07/20/2008 6:46:09 PM PDT by Darnright (A penny saved is a government oversight)
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To: Kaslin; Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; cindy-true-supporter; ...

Maryland “Freak State” PING!


46 posted on 07/21/2008 6:22:46 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drill Here! Drill Now! Pay Less! Sign the petition at http://www.americansolutions.com/)
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To: proudofthesouth

And what was FDR?


47 posted on 07/21/2008 6:50:11 AM PDT by fightinbluhen51 ("...If it moves, tax it, if it moves faster, regulate it, if it stops, subsidies it.")
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To: Glenn
Re #3:

That's a pretty empty statement. Care to explain it? By the way you need to explain why citizens of Appalachia have no “kindred spirit” with McCain, “even less” than with Obama. NOT why Glenn doesn't like McCain.

48 posted on 07/21/2008 6:57:13 AM PDT by Artemis Webb ( OBAMA/HUCKABEE '08)
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To: Notary Sojac; RightWhale
Similar to Alaska?

A fellow Freeper called the predominate political leanings there Redneck Socialists.

49 posted on 07/21/2008 7:04:02 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Artemis Webb
That's a pretty empty statement. Care to explain it?

Did I say I didn't like McCain? Geez. You guys are so sensitive to any comment.

My "people" from western PA and the hills of West By God hate Bush. Really hate Bush. The local predominant newspapers hate Bush. The governors are Democrats. The senators are democrats. When it comes to national elections, they always find their blue collar roots and vote that way. What do you think they see in McCain, sans military service, that they are anxious to latch on to? His spending cut promises? That's the last thing they want to hear.

50 posted on 07/21/2008 7:16:23 AM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: proudofthesouth

“Though I will vote for McCain only because he is (barely) the lesser of two evils I’m not convinced that elections in this country either on local, state or federal levels aren’t rigged. “

I agree. One way or another, they’re going to get their man in there.


51 posted on 07/21/2008 7:17:07 AM PDT by JZelle
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To: Glenn
The local predominant newspapers hate Bush.

Are you saying on a whole "your people" are incapable of holding a thought independent of the local rags?

Folks in rural regions can and will latch onto JSM not because of his military service {see jimmah carter} but because of his national security vision for our republic {see surge and plan for Iran}

And then there is that issue of energy, JSM wants to drill; and BHO's only problem with high gas prices is that they jumped too quickly.... before the election.

52 posted on 07/21/2008 7:33:11 AM PDT by TeleStraightShooter (What value does Black Liberation Theology hold in a post racial Republic?)
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To: thackney

There is no essential difference between dope-smoking, gun-toting, Global Warming, ‘where is our $%#^& Pipeline’, PFD, tax cap, 10 cylinder pickup truck, big dog Alaskans and any other kind of Alaskans.


53 posted on 07/21/2008 8:04:17 AM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Racism may or may not be a factor—seems to me that the folks I’ve met from down in that redneck of the woods are a lot LESS racist than other Virginians I knew growing up. I grew up over near Lynchburg, in an area with some of the last school systems in the state to fully integrate (mine didn’t until 1968, Prince Edward County until 1970 or 1971). Folks back up in the hollers didn’t seem as hung up on race in general...but then again, there’s really not that many black people once you get southwest of the NRV, right? Not compared to other parts of the state.

I will agree with this article that folks in Appalachia, to an extent, are the perfect McCain Democrat. They’re patriotic, feisty, fanatically pro-2A, largely church-going (but certainly not teetotalers!). On the flip-side, they’re still Rats. The Ninth District (all of far southwest Virginia) elects a Democrat back to Congress every year—Rick “Mr. Peepers” Boucher—despite going for George Allen over Jim Webb in the 2006 election. In coal country in particular, they are hardcore pro-union. The UMW is huge there, and those boys do not mess around.

}:-)4


54 posted on 07/21/2008 8:20:54 AM PDT by Moose4 (http://moosedroppings.wordpress.com -- Because 20 million self-important blogs just aren't enough.)
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To: Moose4
Very weak local Republican candidates and the UMWA aside, here's why Rick Boucher keeps getting re-elected in SWVA:

Grundy, Virginia and the $200 Million Bridge to Nowhere


56 posted on 07/21/2008 8:58:38 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Ah, yes, good old Grundy. Four miles long, fifty yards wide. I understand it’s quite the boondoggle, but I’m not sure what else could be done to keep the town from flooding out every so often, given the rugged topography down there. It’s a neat town.

}:-)4


57 posted on 07/21/2008 9:22:27 AM PDT by Moose4 (http://moosedroppings.wordpress.com -- Because 20 million self-important blogs just aren't enough.)
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To: Moose4
It’s a neat town.

Not anymore...it's long gone!


58 posted on 07/21/2008 9:26:17 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

“I’m going to just come out and say it: Appalachians are just not going to vote for a black man, period.”

....I live in the mountains of NC and they won’t vote black here either...matter of fact, many of them fought for the Union during the CW because they didn’t see any sense in fighting on behalf of the plantation class and “their damned ni**ers”...mountain people are savagely independent and PCness means nothing to them.


59 posted on 07/21/2008 1:37:54 PM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: Kaslin
...Obama and McCain, both... can claim Scots-Irish heritage.

Oh, yeah. Obama is very proud of his "typical" Scots-Irish heritage.

60 posted on 07/22/2008 12:15:23 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Alaska has the oil. The Senate has the dipsticks.)
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