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Maliki's Bet
The New York Sun ^ | July 22, 2008 | The Editors

Posted on 07/22/2008 3:54:16 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

It's usually a bad idea for one democratic country to meddle in another democratic country's election. But the boost Prime Minister Maliki of Iraq just gave to Senator Obama in the American campaign has to be one of the most stunning pieces of political nerve in memory.

It could have been a disastrous visit by the Democrat to Baghdad. Mr. Maliki could have left his meeting with Mr. Obama and said, "If America does what Mr. Obama wants and announces to our enemies when it will leave Iraq, Al Qaeda will regain the ground it has lost here, my country will backslide into genocidal chaos, the Iranians will gain more influence here, and the oil supply risks being shut off, taking the gasoline price in America to $10 a gallon. I told Mr. Obama that and he told me that if he is elected, America is going to abandon Iraq anyway, no matter what happens, because the peace and security of Iraq isn't worth the life of one more American soldier, and because the war in Iraq is costing money that he wants to spend on health care and highways for Americans."

But it wasn't. The Iraqi premier said nothing of the sort.

(Excerpt) Read more at nysun.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2008; almaliki; election; electionpresident; elections; foreignpolicy; iraq; mccain; obama; wot
Wow! A New York paper that isn't in Obama's pocket?!
1 posted on 07/22/2008 3:54:16 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh, yes, the NY Sun is conservative/independent, but I don’t think it has too much circulation. I like to read it. NY Post is also sometimes conservative (or will run some conservative op-eds) but is so sensationalistic that it’s all over the place.

The ultra-liberal toilet rags are NY Times, NY Daily News, and Newsday (mainly Long Island but sold widely in the city).


2 posted on 07/22/2008 3:56:56 PM PDT by Enchante (OBAMESSIAH: "Pay no attention to that pitiful little man behind the curtain!")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I watched Special Report against my better judgment this evening...ughh..they are calling OsAMA’s visit there a stunningly success all the while McVain words look rather small against the black messiah’s photo ops! sigh...better look for another alternative to bring my blood pressure down for the rest of the week...sigh!
3 posted on 07/22/2008 4:01:36 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Maliki - Iran's butt boy, is simply doing his master's bidding.
4 posted on 07/22/2008 4:04:55 PM PDT by Apercu ("A man's character is his fate" - Heraclitus)
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To: Enchante
The ultra-liberal toilet rags are NY Times, NY Daily News. . .

I think at this point the Daily News's tilt to the right has to be called significant. Their circulation was tanking so fast vs. the Post, they had to do something. Some days, it's hard to tell which tabloid's editorial page you're reading.

Okay, and some days, it's not. But the paper has changed quite a bit.

5 posted on 07/22/2008 4:06:10 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Maliki is the kind of socialist weasel ingrate that we find all over the world, more interested in communing with fellow America-haters than in showing some appreciation and loyalty to those who have saved his country and his own sorry a##.

If it had been up to Obambi, obviously, Saddam would still be in power. Or once deposed, Obambi would have blocked troop funding and allowed terrorists to take over everything in Iraq. No surge, no successes, no elections, no Maliki.

Yet, Maliki would rather suck up to Obambi than take a stand on the policies and principles that ALLOW his govt. to exist at all. What a pathetic weasel.


6 posted on 07/22/2008 4:06:14 PM PDT by Enchante (OBAMESSIAH: "Pay no attention to that pitiful little man behind the curtain!")
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To: SamuraiScot

Ah, thanks for the update, have to admit I haven’t lived in NYC for a few years, so apparently I’m a bit out of date on the Daily News. But the NY Times continues its slide into the toilet of liberal bias and foolishness.....


7 posted on 07/22/2008 4:07:45 PM PDT by Enchante (OBAMESSIAH: "Pay no attention to that pitiful little man behind the curtain!")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s particularly stunning in light of Obama’s opposition to the surge — and, heck, Obama’s repeated statements (muted while in Iraq, surely) that the USA never should have fought the Iraq war in the first place.

I don’t expect Maliki to be a lickspittle, but a little perspective would be nice.


8 posted on 07/22/2008 4:08:45 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The key point is this:
“On both the war and the surge, Senator McCain was right, and Mr. Obama was wrong. “

Obama has moved to a point where he is shifting the positions without acknowledging the shift. His words mean nothing because he is saying what is expedient now to get elected, and he will do whatever is expedient one year from now. He was for getting out by 2008, now he is for pulling troops out over some time period, but not a ‘rigid’ withdrawal. He bobs and weaves as it suits him.

Now we have have won enough of a victory that we are able to complete the mission, the Iraqis are comfortable enough to allow our forces to be drawn down. Fine.

But the ONLY real sure policy is one that makes it clear: We need to do the job FIRST and then come home. Victory is Job One. Obama never got it, doesnt get it now, and will keep not getting it because this is all about getting electing and nothing about doing the right thing for USA.

Do not forget that Barack Hussein Obama is the one candidate who is more favored in the muslim world than any other candidate. The muslim leaders will continue to do what they can to help someone they consider one of their own.


9 posted on 07/22/2008 4:10:48 PM PDT by WOSG (http://no-bama.blogspot.com/ - NObama, stop the Hype and Chains candidate)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Maliki is doing this for a few of reasons. One, the way things look now Obama is likely to win, so Maliki will have to kiss the Messiah's butt and get the best deal he can. Two, especially given the weaselly statements Obama's made lately, he'd probably double cross his pacifist base after election. Three, Maliki has to press the U.S. for some kind of promise to withdraw (which he has been publicly doing with the Bush Administration) because that plays well with the Iraqi voters who will face.

I'm much more concerned about the millions of dollars worth of free ads the drive bys are giving the Obamessiah on this trip.

10 posted on 07/22/2008 4:19:53 PM PDT by colorado tanker (Number nine, number nine, number nine . . .)
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To: WOSG

And what a lovely “Thank You” Maliki has given us. Will we ever learn that we expend treasure (men and materiel) helping others and get a slap in the face for it? I just want us to get paid back in lots of oil. Wasn’t that one of the original selling points on the war? Well I want gasoline that isn’t <$5/gal. Too bad if the anti-American’s don’t like it. And, Maliki, shut up and pay up.


11 posted on 07/22/2008 4:46:10 PM PDT by Linden1209
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To: Linden1209

Maliki is simply doing 2 things that make perfect sense for him.
1. stating the obvious that they want US troops out as soon as can be possibly done, and
2. trying to win Obama into an accomodative posture that wont undercut the Iraqi Govt completely.

Obama has in effect thrown his old ‘get out now’ policy under the bus. Now Obama is in the ‘get out as soon as makes sense’ posture, calling it no change and hoping it will skate him into the White House. Maliki is helping Obama do the ‘pivot’ that Obama had to finesse, in exchange for a less nutty Iraqi policy.


12 posted on 07/22/2008 6:02:36 PM PDT by WOSG (http://no-bama.blogspot.com/ - NObama, stop the Hype and Chains candidate)
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I was just talking about Maliki and his kicking Bush and Patreius(sp)in the shins so he can brown-nose Obama.

Obama and McCain, for that matter, have terms used by them and others, i.e., “moved position”, “moved to middle-of-the-road”, “posture change”, et.al. All that means is they are lying to get elected.


13 posted on 07/22/2008 6:16:51 PM PDT by Linden1209
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