Posted on 07/22/2008 6:32:40 PM PDT by lqcincinnatus
Someone earlier in this thread made a similar claim; that Ron Paul is a 9/11 truther. I told him that this was a flat out lie and that if he wanted to make such a claim that some proof should be provided. No answer.
Now, do you have any proof of this or is this just another case of someone making a false claim about Paul's positions in order to make him look bad?
Funny how many people here mercilessly bash Paul for one reason: that he is opposed to our being in Iraq when he has stated many times that a big reason for his opposition is that it was all done without a Congressional declaration of war as the Constitution calls for (but we did find time to seek approval from the UN).
McCain was not my 1st, 2nd or even 3rd choice. And he is STILL light-years better than Obama.
There you go again, I succinctly explained that Paul's supporters are not part of the regular makeup of voters and that the only reason they're participating is because of Paul. Now if you want McCain to earn these votes I suggest he get his campaign in gear and start talking about the real issues killing this country instead of the same-old BS we hear every four years. You should also stop denigrating these people - it makes no sense to trash the very people that you need their votes for.
And you should stop filching Ronald Reagan's line. He never would have pulled a stunt like this when he was edged out by Ford in 1976. First you say these people wouldn't vote for McCain anyway, then you suggest they should be courted. All the while running a sideshow in St. Paul that will finally give Paul the spotlight he craves. The party and the country be damned. We got 8 years of the Clintons thanks to Perot pulling this style of nonsense and now Paul wants to reprise it. NO SALE.
He gave the reason for the terrorists attacking. That doesn't mean blame.
Unless you would "blame" Christians for worshipping if it happened to tick off some homicidal Muslims who attacked them.
The biggest phony in American politics.
Most others at least give you an idea of their leanings.
Paul claims to be this huge financial conservative, but in reality he stuffs the budget with pork for his district.
Seriously. And take the Founding Fathers advice?... pshhh.
I love it.
The Ron Paul supporters I know are none of the above, myself included. Besides foreign policy I’m not entirely sure why most in the GOP HATE him so much. As for getting people into the political process, he really got me to think about certain issues and I became much more involved than I ever have before.
As far as “electing Obama”, I was never going to vote for McCain anyway, nor would many other of Paul’s supporters. Besides, I live in California which will go to Obama whether I vote for McCain, Paul, Obama, or Mickey Mouse.
WRONG.
He does NOT push for spending. He pushes for his district to receive money back from the federal budget--if his district doesn't get it, it doesn't just lower the budget, but it goes elsewhere.
If a family votes on what to do with the summer, and one member wants to save money and not take a vacation, should he have no say in where they go if he's out-voted?!?
“The biggest phony in American politics.”
Bigger than Obama?
He interferes with the move to the left...toward State power. His promotion of liberty suppors holding them accountable. He supports America, not quid-pro-quo multinational corporate board arrangements.
Do you think the Democrats would like a leader who encouraged blacks to stop just being sheeple and voting for the same old lies? Well, the GOP establishment wants conservatives who are easily riled by fear, but docile--simply opening their wallets and casting blind GOP votes.
And funny thing...the same people who would be scared to death of interlopers taking over America are supporting the way the GOP has been subverted from its earlier position.
This is from Houston Chron:
The deadline has passed for House members to submit their requests for earmark projects for fiscal year 2009.
We’ll post the requests by the Houston delegation as we receive them. Here they are for Rep. Ron Paul, R-Lake Jackson:
Subcommittee on Commerce, Justice and Science:
• $250,000 for Galveston Economic Development Partnership, for Galveston Center for Business and Technology Development to help spin off private investment at National Lab of the University of Texas Medical Branch
• $500,000 for City of Bay City for NuBlac Rehab Center (youth rehabilitation)
Subcommittee on Defense:
• $3.5 million for study of health risks of exposure to vanadium
Subcommittee on Military Construction:
• $2 million for City of Bay City for NuBlac Rehab Center (serving minority veterans)
Subcommittee on Energy and Water Development:
• $41.073 million for Army Corps of Engineers to deepen and widen Texas City Channel
• $21.6 million for Army Corps of Engineers to dredge and reconfigure jetties at mouth of Colorado River
• $7.02 million for Army Corps of Engineers to dredge Freeport Harbor
• $16.021 million for Army Corps of Engineers to maintain Galveston Harbor
• $1 million for Army Corps of Engineers for construction at Cedar Bayou
• $3.297 million for Army Corps of Engineers to maintain Texas City Channel
• $200,000 for Army Corps of Engineers to maintain Cedar Bayou
• $13.038 million for Army Corps of Engineers to maintain Matagorda Ship Channel
• $42.018 million for Army Corps of Engineers to maintain Gulf Intercoastal Waterway
• $3.026 million for Army Corps of Engineers to maintain channel to Victoria
• $600,000 for Army Corps of Engineers for feasibility study for Sabine Pass to Galveston Bay
• $400,000 for Army Corps of Engineers for feasibility study for Feeport Harbor
• $100,000 for Army Corps of Engineers for feasibility study for Lower Guadalupe River Basin
• $400,000 for Army Corps of Engineers for preliminary engineering and design study at Freeport Harbor.
• $21.7 million for Army Corps of Engineers for construction at Houston Galveston Navigation Channel
• $2.165 million for Army Corps of Engineers to maintain Trinity River
• $6.979 million for Army Corps of Engineers to maintain Wallisville Lake
• $1.3 million for Army Corps of Engineers to study flooding around Colorado River
• $11 million for Army Corps of Engineers for construction at Wharton and Onion Creek
• $3.026 million for Army Corps of Engineers for Chocolate Bayou
• $533,000 for Army Corps of Engineers to maintain channel to Port Bolivar
• $41.623 million for Army Corps of Engineers to maintain Houston Ship Channel
• $1.01 million for Army Corps of Engineers to maintain Double Bayou
• $3 million for Army Corps of Engineers for construction at Clear Creek
• $500,000 for Army Corps of Engineers to maintain Port Palacios
• $100,000 for Army Corps of Engineers to study sand placement near Brazoria County shoreline
Subcommittee on Interior and the Environment:
• $5 million for Fort Bend County for City of Kendleton water and sewer improvements
Subcommittee on Homeland Security:
• $10 million for Coast Guard to improve Galveston Rail Causeway
• $8.8 million for FEMA for drainage at Cove Harbor in Aransas County
• $2.2 million for FEMA to reconfigure and stabilize Capano Causeway Pier
• $500,000 for FEMA for Aransas County drainage master plan
• $35 million for FEMA for drainage in Friendswood
• $10 million for FEMA for drainage project for Friendswood/Clear Creek
• $10 million for FEMA for drainage project for Friendswood/Clear Creek
• $5 million for FEMA to recycle household hazardous waste in Friendswood
Subcommittee on Transportation:
• $1.96 million to replace buses in and around Victoria
• $2 million to renovate transit maintenance facility in Galveston
• $5 million to reconfigure Texas Clipper training ship
• $25,000 to install security cameras at Fox Run Apartments in Victoria
• $2 million to beautify Galveston Seawall and support Transit Access Program in Galveston
• $3.6 million to construct inter-modal transit facility in Victoria
• $3.5 million for analysis of commuter rail alternatives in Galveston
• $10.3 million for City of Bay City for NuBlac Youth/Community Center
• $2.2 million for City of Bay City for improvements to electrical wiring in low and moderate income housing
Subcommittee on Labor, HHS, Education:
• $90,000 for Victoria Chamber of Commerce for business/career-related education for youth
• $248,942 for UTMB for employee wellness program for small businesses
• $1.748 million for University of Houston-Victoria for DNA testing and genetic diagnostic lab
• $300,000 for Bay City MEHOP for fund reinstatement of mobile unit
• $200,000 for Bay City MEHOP to recruit nurse practitioner
• $1.92 million for UTMB to study muscle mass loss in aging vs. microgravity (NASA related) at International Space Station National Lab
• $750,000 for Houston Memorial Hermann HealthCare system for Life Flight operations center
• $26 million for Washington, D.C. “Reading is Fundamental” program
• $10 million for Boston, Mass., “Reach Out and Read” national center
END IT END IT END IT If Paul is “just getting money for his district” then why $26 million for a reading program in DC?. Why don’t the people in DC pay for the reading program in DC? Why $10 million for a reading program in Teddy Kennedy’s turf?
And now are you going to tell us about whether he has voted for any of that? NO, he hasn’t.
I truly thought this was, like, Scrappleface or The Onion.
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He puts every piece of Pork he can in the budget. He finesses them through committee and through the opening votes. He works hard again and again to keep them in.
He even votes for them in the final budget bill that goes to the Senate.
Of course, when it comes back from the Senate it has a few changes, so a Conference Committee works out the small differences then sends the bills back for one more ceremonial vote,
It passes about 420-1, with a few abstentions or absent Members. The one no vote in this meaningless vote is Paul's, so he can claim he voted against it.
Like I said, a complete phony
Yeah, Ron IS a nut. Remember what he said about 9/11 during a couple of the early debates. Something like, “What do you expect when America bullies it’s way around the world...that’s why we were attacked on 9/11”
...not a direct quote of course, but I remember him saying words to that effect....Face it people, our entire slate of candidates INCLUDING McCain lack any statesmanlike attributes...they are all deeply flawed.
We have but one Country to save and Ron Paul hasn’t got a chance in flying pig land. Obama is counting on splinter groups voting for Barr, Paul et al so he can move into 1600.
I'm sorry, but I have a really hard time feeling bad about the sensitivities of the tools who would attend a McCain convention being offended.
The day is young, but that's a contender for stupidest post of the day already. Congratulations.
I love how you used to bitch about "fratricide" and the "11th Commandment" when the Giulianites were getting exterminated from FR, and then you post comments like this. How'd that Rudy thing work out for you?
I don't buy those graphs a bit. From my observation, most freepers will at least consider McCain if he goes with a good running mate, but would not have voted for Rudy under any circumstances. Enumerating one's political leanings is almost impossible and often misleading.
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