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Obama refuses to meet U.S. Troops in Germany
Der Spiegel Online ^

Posted on 07/24/2008 12:10:29 PM PDT by Thurifer the Censer

++ Visit to US Military Bases Cancelled ++

1:42 p.m.: SPIEGEL ONLINE has learned that Obama has cancelled a planned short visit to the Rammstein and Landstuhl US military bases in the southwest German state of Rhineland-Palatinate. The visits were planned for Friday. "Barack Obama will not be coming to us," a spokesperson for the US military hospital in Landstuhl announced. "I don't know why." Shortly before the same spokeswoman had announced a planned visit by Obama.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: election; landstuhl; military; militarybases; obama; obamasbigadventure; obamavisit; rammstein; snub; soldieremail; usmilitarybases; wia
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1 posted on 07/24/2008 12:10:29 PM PDT by Thurifer the Censer
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To: Thurifer the Censer
..."I don't know why."...

Many here on FR can answer this with high precision.

2 posted on 07/24/2008 12:12:03 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: Thurifer the Censer

Kind of goes along with reports of his snubbing troops in other areas on this “trip” as well...

Maybe he just isn’t “feeling the love” he thought he would. Not receiving the “reverence” he had hoped for (as mentioned on his trip to Jerusalem).


3 posted on 07/24/2008 12:12:19 PM PDT by TheBattman (Vote your conscience, or don't complain about RINOs!)
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To: TheBattman
Maybe he just isn’t “feeling the love” he thought he would. Not receiving the “reverence” he had hoped for

He probably expected them to 'troop the guard' for him like the Grenadiers do for QE on her birthday - must have been a huge disappointment for him./s

4 posted on 07/24/2008 12:17:59 PM PDT by seabreezelover (Ich bin ein Beginner Obama does, says or becomes whatever he thinks will get him elected President.)
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To: Thurifer the Censer

That’s okay, he can still pose for photos with the actors at the Brandenburg Gate DRESSED as US military.


5 posted on 07/24/2008 12:18:26 PM PDT by weegee (Obama loves America like Bill loves Hillary.)
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To: GingisK
Many here on FR can answer this with high precision.

Not to mention high volume, high blood pressure, and repeated use of the word "scumsucking".

6 posted on 07/24/2008 12:18:33 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: weegee

7 posted on 07/24/2008 12:19:14 PM PDT by weegee (Obama loves America like Bill loves Hillary.)
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To: Thurifer the Censer
Jim Geraghty over at The Campaign Spot has this to say about why Obama canceled his visit with the Troops.
"UPDATE: A very interesting email from a source I must protect suggests that Obama's visit to the Landstuhl Regional Medical Center had the green light until a campaign staffer raised a stink about going with Obama. (There are rules meant to ensure candidates do not use soldiers or military bases for campaign purposes, and they state that personal and committee staff may accompany a sitting senator on a visit but campaign staff may not.) I am told that when one of Obama's campaign staff was told he or she would be denied access, the visit was canceled.

The last-minute cancellation speaks more poorly of this unidentified staffer than of Obama himself. But in the end, shouldn't Obama have been able to say, "fine, the staffer stays in Berlin (or where-ever) and I'm going to Landstuhl? Can he still say so?"

8 posted on 07/24/2008 12:19:36 PM PDT by coffee260 (coffee)
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To: TheBattman

But, but, but — I heard they gave him a standing O — somewhere...


9 posted on 07/24/2008 12:20:10 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: GingisK

Filthy rotten scumbag treasonous swine.


10 posted on 07/24/2008 12:20:50 PM PDT by dsc
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To: Izzy Dunne
...repeated use of the word "scumsucking"...

The words that bubbled forth from my old army vocabulary won't display on this gentile web site.

11 posted on 07/24/2008 12:20:54 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: weegee
Faux German dress-up PR dolls in Berlin are his "troops". The real HEROES of AMERICA lying in hospitals crippled are just a nuissance. I hate this sniveling, un-American, fascist traitor Barack Hussein Obamarx.
12 posted on 07/24/2008 12:21:17 PM PDT by SolidWood (Obamarxislamism, the threat to our Republic!)
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To: GingisK

Good call! It’s under the bus for the troops when Mr. Everything is on Euroweenie soil. It is almost as if he thinks he is running, literally, for leader of the world. Abstimmung für große Ohren! heh


13 posted on 07/24/2008 12:21:18 PM PDT by WildcatClan (Dear Illegals, You don't have to go home, but you can't stay here.)
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To: Thurifer the Censer

I’m shocked


14 posted on 07/24/2008 12:21:30 PM PDT by null and void (Barack Obama - International Man of Mystery...)
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To: TheBattman

“Maybe he just isn’t “feeling the love” he thought he would. Not receiving the “reverence” he had hoped for (as mentioned on his trip to Jerusalem).”

He should just be glad that our troops are too disciplined to spit on him...which would be better than he deserves.


15 posted on 07/24/2008 12:22:57 PM PDT by dsc
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To: Thurifer the Censer

Welcome to FR, by-the-way


16 posted on 07/24/2008 12:23:15 PM PDT by null and void (Barack Obama - International Man of Mystery...)
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To: Thurifer the Censer

Chauncey Obama would rather meet with the adoring German Socialist fascists than with those who ended their slaughter fest in WWII.


17 posted on 07/24/2008 12:24:13 PM PDT by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! +)
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To: GingisK

SHEESH!! Stop nit-picking!
Don’t you know that refusing to meet with servicemen
doesn’t have anything to do with TRUE PATRIOTISM????


18 posted on 07/24/2008 12:26:36 PM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: Thurifer the Censer

From the son of a friend today,

Hello everyone,

As you know I am not a very political person. I just wanted to pass along that Senator Obama came to Bagram, Afghanistan for about an hour on his visit to “The War Zone.” I wanted to share with you what happened. He got off the plane and got into a bullet proof vehicle, got to the area to meet with the Major General (2 Star) who is the commander here at Bagram,

As the Soldiers were lined up to shake his hand he blew them off and didn’t say a word as he went into the conference room to meet the General. As he finished, the vehicles took him to the Clam Shell (pretty much a big top tent that military personnel can play basketball or work out in with
weights) so he could take his publicity pictures playing basketball. He again shunned the opportunity to talk to Soldiers to thank them for their service.

So really he was just here to make a showing for the American’s back homethat he is their candidate for President. I think that if you are going to make an effort to come all the way over here you would thank those that are providing the freedom that they are providing for you.

I swear we got more thanks from the NBA Basketball Players or the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders than from one of the Senators, who wants to be the President of the United States. I just don’t understand how anyone would want him to be our Commander-and-Chief. It was almost that he was scared to be around those that provide the freedom for him and our great country.

If this is blunt and to the point I am sorry but I wanted you all to know what kind of caliber of person he really is. What you see in the news is all fake.

In service,
********************

TF Wasatch
American Soldier


19 posted on 07/24/2008 12:27:10 PM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..)
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To: RVN Airplane Driver; SE Mom

Thanks for posting. Thought you be interested ping!


20 posted on 07/24/2008 12:31:05 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Thurifer the Censer
What happened to “The Tour of Duty” as proudly pronounced by the msm? Looks like that went by the wayside rather quickly. Just another example of the real Hussein.
21 posted on 07/24/2008 12:31:13 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Thurifer the Censer

Can’t stand the sight of blood, can you, Barry? Or is it because in a military hospital, visitors, particularly non-dependents, are required to observe/show silence, solemnity, respect, and empathy (the real kind) to the wounded, and you just don’t have it in you to do that?


22 posted on 07/24/2008 12:31:13 PM PDT by Ben Reyes (Headline: Obama Disses Troops by Cancelling Hospital Visit; Cites Tiny Crowd Volume as Reason)
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To: Thurifer the Censer
The trip was canceled b/c his handlers do not see POTUS as Obambi’s final resting place.... they envision Obambi as the leader of the world......and if we are all one big happy family as a “world” there is no need for a Military; therefore, why tarnish the Germans’ view of the great Messiah by visiting a bunch of thugs on an Army base.....
23 posted on 07/24/2008 12:32:09 PM PDT by zimfam007 (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: eleni121

Chauncey Obama would rather meet with the adoring German Socialist fascists than with those who ended their slaughter fest in WWII.


I agree. But, it should be “Chump” Obama. Or, Obama, the Chump.


24 posted on 07/24/2008 12:33:00 PM PDT by unkus
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To: GingisK

one would think he would have gone to see them since they (cough)adore him sooo much.


25 posted on 07/24/2008 12:35:09 PM PDT by jincarolina
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To: Thurifer the Censer
In other news, massive clean-up details at Ramstein AB and Landstuhl AMC have been terminated, freeing hundreds of airmen and soldiers to return to their real jobs.

I hated it when VIPs were coming to visit. Everything had to look pretty, or else heads would roll.

26 posted on 07/24/2008 12:36:27 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (John McCain is Lucy, McCainiacs are Charlie Brown, and the football is a secure border.)
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To: coffee260

Really?

Just goes to show you where his ‘loyalties’ lie?


27 posted on 07/24/2008 12:40:40 PM PDT by griswold3 (Al qaeda is guilty of hirabah (war against society) Penalty is death.)
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To: RVN Airplane Driver

Thank you for sharing that account. I hope more soldiers come forward with these observations. It seems the first thing on Obama’s mind is his career, with country and soldiers further down the list.

Of course, today he had that all important 35 min. speech to give. He mentioned a few big topics with no specifics and barely more depth than a Miss America contestant. (”We have to come together for World Peace”. etc.)


28 posted on 07/24/2008 12:42:05 PM PDT by drierice
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To: Thurifer the Censer

Since half the threads I start on this website which I provide all the required information in the posting fields and I believe fall under the FR categories provided are deleted by the mods for reasons that remain a mystery to me, I really shouldn’t respond how I really feel about the subject of this thread or I’ll be banned for life. Appears I’m on thin ice with this site so I’ll just keep quiet.

But I’ll post this: To the brave warriors in those German hospitals, my prayers are with you all.


29 posted on 07/24/2008 12:43:58 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: Thurifer the Censer

In another thread: G.I. In Afghanistan: Obama “Blew Them Off”

Scumbag.


30 posted on 07/24/2008 12:45:16 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Thurifer the Censer
Headline should be:

Obama refuses to meet with injured US military at Landstuhl hospital- prefers to work out at gym instead

31 posted on 07/24/2008 12:59:02 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: RVN Airplane Driver
What you see in the news is all fake.

I believe most of us here at FR know this already; but, it is unfortunate that so many of our fellow Americans can be so easily scammed by this guy.

I have to say,though, that I did see some video of BO getting something to eat with our soldiers. He was sitting at a table with them, I'm not sure if this was Iraq or Afghanistan. My first reaction was to wonder if there were no "white" soldiers who wanted to sit at the table with him because everyone there seemed to be "black". (sorry if my political IN-correctness bothers anyone)

32 posted on 07/24/2008 1:01:04 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: zimfam007

think of the problem for leftists: America is just another country that should be run to the ground. So how can Obama be the leader of the world if he is president of the US? He should be in charge of a truly great country such as Cuba.


33 posted on 07/24/2008 1:02:19 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Obama: uh, uh, uh, you know, uh, uh, uh, uhh, is...? Uh, is of -- of their work, uh, uh, uh, uh)
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To: coffee260

“I am told that when one of Obama’s campaign staff was told he or she would be denied access, the visit was canceled.”

This is the telling sentence, he’s terrified to go anywhere without key members of his campaign staff, can anyone say David Axelrod, Susan Rice and David Plouffe! This also speaks very poorly of his senate office staff, I guess he has no confidence in them whatsovever.


34 posted on 07/24/2008 1:07:45 PM PDT by moose2004 (Drill, Drill, Drill, Drill, Drill, Drill And Then Drill Some More!)
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To: Thurifer the Censer

He just got nailed for this on Fox by Sen. Kyl.


35 posted on 07/24/2008 1:08:09 PM PDT by jennyjenny
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To: jennyjenny

Seminer internet posters on both sides of the aisle are making crap up like it’s going out of style.

Believe about 5% of the “bad news” what you read about any liberal OR conservative anymore on the net.


36 posted on 07/24/2008 1:20:43 PM PDT by am452 (In order to ensure the quality of your patriotism, your conversation may be monitored.)
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To: coffee260
But had time for this, the little nazi!

++ Obama Takes Time to Work Out ++

4:49 p.m.: Obama enters the luxury Ritz Carlton hotel wearing a T-shirt, black sweatpants and white trainers — apparently to work out in the hotel's gym. He kept up the campaigning on the way there, smiling and waving at tourists and other onlookers.

37 posted on 07/24/2008 1:24:14 PM PDT by tonysamm ('")
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To: GingisK

What would be the point of Obama visiting the troops?

We know he despise the troops. He knows he despises the troops. He knows the troops despise him. The troops know that he knows they despise him.

This would have been the chance for one of our heroes to spit in Obama’s face or tell him to FO before he actually became the serviceman’s CINC.


38 posted on 07/24/2008 1:27:37 PM PDT by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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39 posted on 07/24/2008 1:29:44 PM PDT by rlmorel (Clinging bitterly to Guns and God in Massachusetts...:)
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To: zimfam007

Must be a German thing.

One Leader, One Country, One World

Heil Obama


40 posted on 07/24/2008 1:32:17 PM PDT by We Dare Defend Our Rights
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To: am452
Did he plan on going and then cancel the stop, or not?

I think it says quite a bit about him that he couldn't somewhat quietly visit them, but instead gives a 30 minute speech to a sea of German citizens fawning over him.

41 posted on 07/24/2008 1:32:49 PM PDT by jennyjenny
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To: jennyjenny

“I think it says quite a bit about him that he couldn’t somewhat quietly visit them, but instead gives a 30 minute speech to a sea of German citizens fawning over him.”

Maybe he thinks he should go where the votes are. He probably expects more votes from German citizens than American soldiers. . .


42 posted on 07/24/2008 1:37:25 PM PDT by No Truce With Kings (The opinions expressed are mine! Mine! MINE! All Mine!)
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To: griswold3
Just goes to show you where his ‘loyalties’ lie?

He prefers the company of thousands of fainting Commie Krauts, instead of wounded American warriors.

43 posted on 07/24/2008 1:38:16 PM PDT by SolidWood (Obamarxislamism, the threat to our Republic!)
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To: moose2004
"This is the telling sentence, he’s terrified to go anywhere without key members of his campaign staff,..."

That is exactly what I was thinking.
44 posted on 07/24/2008 1:43:17 PM PDT by coffee260 (coffee)
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To: Thurifer the Censer
Obama: ‘I come to Berlin as so many of my countrymen have come before. Tonight, I speak to you not as a candidate for President, but as a citizen — a proud citizen of the United States, and a fellow citizen of the world.’

Obama can simply proclaim he is not campaigning to give a speech but he can't do the same to visit wounded soldiers.

45 posted on 07/24/2008 1:43:44 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Vote For McCain But Trust In The LORD.)
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To: coffee260

Bingo!


46 posted on 07/24/2008 1:44:46 PM PDT by moose2004 (Drill, Drill, Drill, Drill, Drill, Drill And Then Drill Some More!)
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To: Thurifer the Censer

Yeah well, the troops are participating in an “illegal” war.

No candidate wants to be seen with lawbreakers.

(/sarcasm)


47 posted on 07/24/2008 1:50:50 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Obama for President!)
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To: Thurifer the Censer
John McCain spokesman Brian Rogers said, “Barack Obama is wrong. It is never inappropriate to visit our men and women in the military.”
From Fox News.
48 posted on 07/24/2008 1:54:51 PM PDT by Kleebo151
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To: coffee260
The last-minute cancellation speaks more poorly of this unidentified staffer than of Obama himself.

If this is what Jim Geraghty really thinks he is not working with a full deck.

49 posted on 07/24/2008 2:00:49 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Kleebo151
The marxist crypto-muslim will still probably win the popular vote.

After all, algore did, and he is certifiable.

Sort of what happens when the Founders advice is unheeded and the franchise is extended to all.

50 posted on 07/24/2008 2:01:45 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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