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Fuel-toting border crossers draw ire in Juarez
KVIA-TV El Paso ^ | July 23, 2008 | Martin Bartlett

Posted on 07/25/2008 5:47:13 AM PDT by 3AngelaD

CIUDAD JUAREZ, Chihuahua -- While consumers just across the Rio Grande in El Paso are paying about $4 a gallon for gas -- more for diesel -- government subsidies here have kept fuel prices well below the $3 per gallon mark. Those low prices have kept El Pasoans hopping the border to stay ahead of sky-rocketing fuel prices at home in the United States, many of them filling up portable tanks with diesel which sell for between $300 and $1,000 in El Paso.

"Over the past three months with the price of diesel up where it is, we've seen an incredible increase in people buying them so they can buy diesel in Juarez," said Dick Krasne, president of Alamo Auto Supply on I-10 near Geronimo Drive in Central El Paso...

The cross-border commerce is raising the ire of some Mexican fuel consumers in Juarez; they don't like the idea of U.S. consumers taking advantage of fuel prices kept artificially low courtesy of their own tax dollars.

Dr. Tony Payan, political science professor at the University of Texas at El Paso, said it's more likely, though, that the spiking number of U.S. citizens buying fuel in Mexico are actually lining the pockets of oil giants in Houston and Dallas rather than the government-owned PEMEX oil company in Mexico City.

Because of a lack of refining capacity in Mexico, Payan said many oil fields in northwest Mexico export much of their crude oil to refiners in Texas, who in turn send refined gas and diesel back to Mexico for sale at stations along the border. Refining profits and jobs stay behind, though, north of the border in Texas...

While there are no firm number for the impact on the Texas economy, Payan estimated it in the billions.

"Texas benefits enormously from this," he said.

It is legal to bring gas and diesel back from Mexico. But if customs agents think you're bringing back too much to use yourself, they'll turn you back or send you to a cargo facility to cross it there.

"There have been mixed stories about how they're enforcing it, it's very unclear to us," Krasne said of customers who've bought the tanks to transport fuel across the border.

However, if gas and diesel prices start to climb again, customs agents will likely see more fuel-toting border crossers -- and that's clear on both sides of the border.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: diesel; energy; gasprices; governmentsubsidies; mexico; trade
Some irony with your morning coffee:

"The cross-border commerce is raising the ire of some Mexicans...in Juarez...don't like the idea of U.S. consumers taking advantage of fuel prices kept artificially low courtesy of their own tax dollars..."

1 posted on 07/25/2008 5:47:14 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: 3AngelaD

Think of all the tax money that the US and border states are losing because of this!!!

If ever there were a reason to build a wall and build it now, this is it!!!


2 posted on 07/25/2008 5:51:14 AM PDT by Roccus (Someday it'll all make sense.....maybe.)
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To: 3AngelaD

Personally I would do it on a daily basis, as much as I can afford, boaters have been doing this for awhile now. Granted PEMEX gas is crappy but the diesel is adequate for most engines.


3 posted on 07/25/2008 5:52:01 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (The world WILL be cleaner, safer and more productive without Islam.)
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To: 3AngelaD

have you been to el paso lately?

ick.


4 posted on 07/25/2008 5:52:50 AM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: 3AngelaD

Turn about is fair play...LOL.


5 posted on 07/25/2008 5:54:07 AM PDT by EBH ( ... the riotousness of the crowd is always very close to madness. --Alculin c.735-804)
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To: Roccus
Think of all the tax money that the US and border states are losing because of this!!!

You say that like it's a bad thing. If our greedy over bloated government won't lower taxes on fuel then I say let em lose it!

6 posted on 07/25/2008 5:58:26 AM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: Roccus

Every American citizen has a duty to avoid paying any and all taxes. Like one previous poster said, “Starve the Beast.”

Good for anyone that lives close enough to get across the border and capitalize on anything from Mexico. If I lived a little closer, I’d go over and get 500 gallons!!!


7 posted on 07/25/2008 5:58:32 AM PDT by Concho (IRS--Americas real terrorist organization.)
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To: 3AngelaD
The cross-border commerce is raising the ire of some Mexican fuel consumers in Juarez; they don't like the idea of U.S. consumers taking advantage of fuel prices kept artificially low courtesy of their own tax dollars.

I won't print what I'm thinking...

8 posted on 07/25/2008 5:59:53 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: Concho; unixfox

IRONY!!!!!

(maybe I need more coffee)


9 posted on 07/25/2008 6:06:01 AM PDT by Roccus (Someday it'll all make sense.....maybe.)
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To: 3AngelaD
As they say.....

.....you can't make this stuff up....

I wonder how many of the Juarez-ites(Juarez-ians)? who are 'upset' have been illegal workers in the U.S.?

10 posted on 07/25/2008 6:10:25 AM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance......)
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***The cross-border commerce is raising the ire of some Mexican fuel consumers in Juarez; they don’t like the idea of U.S. consumers taking advantage of fuel prices kept artificially low courtesy of their own tax dollars.***

But many of them will cross the border to have a bady in the US at taxpayer expense, and for instant citizenship for their little ones....


11 posted on 07/25/2008 6:12:31 AM PDT by Gamecock (The question is not, Am I good enough to be a Christian? rather Am I good enough not to be?)
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To: 3AngelaD

Nothing infuriates Mexico more than US citizens obtaining a benefit from their presence. We must immediately impose a border-jumper tax and fund border control measures to prevent such an obvious benefit from accruing to the stupid Gringos, errr, Americans.


12 posted on 07/25/2008 6:21:57 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Congrasites = Congressional parasites.)
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To: 3AngelaD

“The cross-border commerce is raising the ire of some Mexican fuel consumers in Juarez; they don’t like the idea of U.S. consumers taking advantage of fuel prices kept artificially low courtesy of their own tax dollars.”

And now the Mexicans have an inkling - just an inkling - of how we have felt support an enormous part of their population for the last few decades!


13 posted on 07/25/2008 6:29:47 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: 3AngelaD
"Some irony with your morning coffee:"

Hope everyone within 100 miles of the border takes a tanker truck down there and loads up on Mexican taxpayer goodies.
14 posted on 07/25/2008 6:36:16 AM PDT by CowboyJay (There's always 2012...)
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To: 3AngelaD

Buying diesel in Mexico avoids the sulfur reductions (clean diesel) that California thrust upon the country. I think that a primary reason for the difference between the cost of diesel and unleaded gas is the reductions in sulfur imposed by California. There may be other factors such as increased world wide demand for diesel but I suspect that the sulfur emissions reduction (a factor of 10) has been the driving influence. As evidence, I understand that commercial grade diesel fuel can be purchased for much lower price in this country than the clean diesel sold as a retail fuel. I understand that it is illegal to use the commercial grade diesel fuel in a private vehicle. Buying gas in Juarez is a protest against the California clean diesel regulations.


15 posted on 07/25/2008 6:37:59 AM PDT by businessprofessor
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To: 3AngelaD

Mexico can stuff it


16 posted on 07/25/2008 6:40:55 AM PDT by Charlespg (Peace= When we trod the ruins of Mecca and Medina under our infidel boots.)
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To: 3AngelaD
"The cross-border commerce is raising the ire of some Mexican fuel consumers in Juarez; they don't like the idea of U.S. consumers taking advantage of fuel prices kept artificially low courtesy of their own tax dollars."

Irony is a bitter pill. Can't help but laugh my friggin @$$ off at this one.

17 posted on 07/25/2008 6:44:13 AM PDT by libs_kma (NOBAMA. Keep the change)
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To: B.O. Plenty
I wonder how many of the Juarez-ites(Juarez-ians)? who are 'upset' have been illegal workers in the U.S.?

Or, how many are sending their kids to US schools, whose tuition is kept artificially low thanks to our tax dollars.

Or, how many come to US hospitals where...

18 posted on 07/25/2008 7:19:07 AM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (While the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power.)
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