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Defending Our Values
The Washington Post ^ | June 24, 2008 | Jamie Barnett

Posted on 07/25/2008 2:55:53 PM PDT by LAforme2008

Did you know that your safety and security depend on gay men and lesbians?

An estimated 65,000 gay men and lesbians serve in the U.S. armed forces, though by law they cannot be open about their sexuality. As we fight two wars, our military is stretched thin. Those gay and lesbian soldiers, sailors, airmen, Marines and members of the Coast Guard are essential.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dontaskdonttell; gay; homosexualagenda; military
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1 posted on 07/25/2008 2:55:53 PM PDT by LAforme2008
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To: LAforme2008

Where’s the barf alert?


2 posted on 07/25/2008 3:06:02 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: LAforme2008

We in the US Military , both active, Reserve and retired can do with out the anal proclivities of said perverts.


3 posted on 07/25/2008 3:07:57 PM PDT by texican01
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To: LAforme2008

This is even less honest, if that’s possible, than saying the success of the US was built ‘on the backs’ of southern slaves.


4 posted on 07/25/2008 3:08:32 PM PDT by Post Toasties (It's not a smear if it's true.)
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To: LAforme2008

This is even less honest, if that’s possible, than saying the success of the US was built ‘on the backs’ of southern slaves.


5 posted on 07/25/2008 3:08:35 PM PDT by Post Toasties (It's not a smear if it's true.)
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To: LAforme2008
I doubt so many homos would be joining the the military. If they came out of the closet, it would be nice to see decent and normal recruits do the “right thing”.
6 posted on 07/25/2008 3:11:12 PM PDT by isrul (Help make every day, "Disrespect a muzzie day.")
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To: LAforme2008

“An estimated 65,000...”

Doubtful. Unless there are 64,000 really good chefs in the military.


7 posted on 07/25/2008 3:15:39 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("bigger government means constricting freedom"....................RWR)
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To: LAforme2008
An estimated 65,000 gay men and lesbians serve in the U.S. armed forces, though by law they cannot be open about their sexuality.

Estimated by whom, and with what methodology?

8 posted on 07/25/2008 3:16:51 PM PDT by xjcsa (Has anyone seen my cornballer?)
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To: xjcsa

Hey now, why are you asking logical followup questions?


9 posted on 07/25/2008 3:18:12 PM PDT by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: LAforme2008

“An estimated 65,000 gay men and lesbians serve in the U.S. armed forces, though by law they cannot be open about their sexuality.”

So, in the spirit of tolerance, I say to the 65,000 gay men and lesbians that serve or wish to serve...we are not interested in you being open about your sexuality — it is your issue, you deal with it.

Dumb this down and politize it all you want — the military has entirely way bigger fish to fry than to worry about whether or not Adam and Steve “feel good about their gayness.” Your Father should have done his job and raised you right.

Give me a break...if you want to be...be. Leave the rest of us out of it.

By making us deal with it you are asking us to sign on to your disgustingly anti social and immoral behavior — keep it to yourself please — and tolerate my choice to not tolerate your choice.

Serving is a privilege and some folks are just simply not cut out for military service. Period. Thank you, have a nice day!


10 posted on 07/25/2008 3:24:32 PM PDT by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.)
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To: LAforme2008

I would be just as save and secure if they were not there. It might even be safer and more secure.


11 posted on 07/25/2008 3:41:53 PM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: LAforme2008
"...gay and lesbian soldiers, sailors, airmen, Marines and members of the Coast Guard are essential..."

Bulls**t!!!!

They could boot 'em all out tomorrow, and the services could replace everyone of them w/straight people in 6 months.


12 posted on 07/25/2008 3:45:31 PM PDT by conservativeharleyguy (Obammunists: Millions fooled daily!!!)
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To: areukiddingme1

IF there are 65,000 gays in the US Armed forces then Iraq and Afghanistan should have their interiors well decorated by the time we leave - while the queers are out decorating the real men are getting decorated.


13 posted on 07/25/2008 3:46:17 PM PDT by DaveyB (Either we will be ruled by God or by-god we will be ruled - Ben Franklin)
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To: xjcsa
The Washington Post has a predominantly homosexual, alcoholic and drug addicted workforce and management.

Those are the kinds of folks who would actually believe there are 65,000 active, practicing homosexuals in the US military.

14 posted on 07/25/2008 3:46:39 PM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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To: DaveyB

Ah, yes, queer eye for the Infantry guy...got it.


15 posted on 07/25/2008 4:02:48 PM PDT by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.)
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To: muawiyah

but you’ll notice that this article was written by “a rear admiral, retired in June after 32 years of military service. His last position in active duty was deputy commander of the Navy Expeditionary Combat Command, which has 9,000 sailors serving in Iraq and Afghanistan.”


16 posted on 07/25/2008 4:31:57 PM PDT by LAforme2008
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To: LAforme2008
So what. Doesn't matter if you were an Admiral or an ordinary seaman, you are entitled to be wrong, to tell lies, mouth off, and surf the environment for other gay blades if you wish.

I'm guessing he, and others, are doing all of those things eh!

(Now that he's a retiree - wink, wink)

17 posted on 07/25/2008 4:58:42 PM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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To: LAforme2008

“but you’ll notice that this article was written by “a rear admiral, retired in June after 32 years of military service.”

So what, he is in the clear minority on this issue, within the military. He is actually the radical fringe. There will always be political sellouts, looking to get nominated for Secretary of Defense or some Undersecretary in an Obama Administration. Below is a gem from this “general”.

“Sadly, we just don’t recognize the gay service members among us for who they are.”

That is an example of a piss poor commander. He doesn’t care about the mission. He cares about a job in an Obama Admin. Should conservative and liberals be noted as they collect their bronze stars (I’d love to see that breakdown)? How about meat eaters versus vegans or married versus single soldiers? I can see it now, “congrats to Donnie Wu, asian gay man, for going above and beyond the call of duty.

He’s probably already working for Obama anyway, I’d almost bank on it. Gaybees of a feather, flocking together. Let’s ask Sinclair about “don’t ask and don’t tell”. Figures that Obama would support this as well lol.


18 posted on 07/25/2008 5:03:37 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("bigger government means constricting freedom"....................RWR)
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To: LAforme2008; muawiyah

Hum, interesting. He was an admiral, correct. He served for 32 years correct. He was the deputy commander (reservist) of the Navy Expeditionary Combat Command 9,000 sailors...okay.

So, does he know how many were gay or lesbian? This is a really very important issue?

Because of if he did, and did not take the appropriate action — he, should have been held accountable for his failure to act and to provide this information to his ISIC so that the appropriate NCIS investigation could have been conducted — interesting point you bring up.

And his ISIC should have relieved him for failing to execise the appropriate actions to maintain good order and discipline in accordance with the UCMJ...if he was aware of gays and lesbians serving in his command.

Otherwise, lets just assume, he didn’t know.


19 posted on 07/25/2008 5:11:02 PM PDT by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.)
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I think I’m on to something here.

Given Sinclair’s claims, will Obama support the military’s longstanding “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy on gays in the military?”


20 posted on 07/25/2008 5:15:11 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("bigger government means constricting freedom"....................RWR)
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