Posted on 07/26/2008 10:34:55 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
Pakistan's President Pervez Musharraf is on record stating his ambitions to make his country a modern and secular state modeled on the Turkish republic under Kemal Ataturk. Ironically, even as that goal appears mind bogglingly unachievable for Pakistan, recent events will conspire to push Turkey in the direction of Pakistan; into becoming a breeding ground for a new class of Islamic militants. The transition of Turkey into a new front for Saudi interests will follow typical ideological, strategic and political trends... It is no mere coincidence that the Saudis need a functioning Sunni army to counter the likely expansionism of Iran, a matter that they simply cannot risk leaving to the putative next president of the United States, Democratic Senator Barrack Obama...
In perhaps less than a decade from now, Saudi Arabia could well control and call on two Wahhabi-inspired armies on either side of Iran, and seek to deal a death blow against the Shi'ites when a convenient excuse presents itself. It is only after Islamic forces consolidate around the Wahhabi establishment that the next phase of the civilizational war against the West will begin.
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Wesley Clark - Ambitious, Perfumed, Sacked General
I traveled in Turkey for about a month after college. If you’ve never met someone who will kill themselves for Western Civilization, you’ve never met a secular Turk.
I’d like it better if there were more of them, and if they’d act against the Islamicists now in control.
You don't win a war by dying for your country, but by making the other poor dumb... you know the rest.
As for the article, I think it is a pipe dream. The Saudis have some money, yes. But they aren't in the same league as Ahmadinejad and company, and will fold at the first whiff of real danger. Always have.
I know several of them here in SoFlo. Smart, intelligent and career oriented folks who you couldn't pick from a crowd as Turks, but might identify as European. And yes, these are Muslims.
One I know is a regular church-goer. She might not walk up the aisle to accept Christ but she pursues the message. One thing she's taught me is that secular Muslims aren't the kind we had to kill in Tora-Bora. The sad thing is some of her friends are still against the policies the USA has had to enact in self defense.
Big gap in perspective on some important issues, but these are folks we need to reach out to because we can work with them within the confines of civilized behavior. I mean, when they object to something, maybe they won't show up to the next happy hour, but crap is NOT going to suddenly explode...
>> I’d like it better if there were more of them, and if they’d act against the Islamicists now in control.
What would be the point when it’s your effed up leadership propping them up?
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