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Shooting Suspect hated liberals, frustrated about job search
Live Leak via CNN ^ | July 29, 2008 | not specified

Posted on 07/29/2008 7:09:08 PM PDT by RDTF

KNOXVILLE, Tennessee (CNN) -- The suspect in a fatal shooting at a Knoxville church Sunday was motivated by frustration over being unable to obtain a job and hatred for the liberal movement, police said Monday.

Authorities recovered a four-page letter in which the suspect, Jim Adkisson, described his feelings and motives, police said.

Adkisson, 58, of Powell, Tennessee, has been charged with one count of first-degree murder in the shootings at Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church.

The gunman killed two adults and wounded seven others before being overpowered by congregants, authorities said.

The case is being investigated as a hate crime, police said.

Sterling Owen IV told reporters on Monday.

Authorities also discovered a letter from the state government telling Adkisson he was having his food stamps reduced or eliminated, police said.

"He did express that frustration, that the liberal movement was getting more jobs," Owen said. "And he felt like he was being kept out of the loop because of his age."

Adkisson's resume indicates he had worked in mechanical engineering, police said.

Owen said Adkisson apparently acted alone and chose the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church because of recent publicity about activities there that Adkisson considered liberal.

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1 posted on 07/29/2008 7:09:08 PM PDT by RDTF
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To: RDTF
He did express that frustration, that the liberal movement was getting more jobs

Someone who speaks authentic media gibberish; translation please?

2 posted on 07/29/2008 7:13:04 PM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great (until it happens to YOU)...)
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To: RDTF

Thanks a lot, jerk, for giving the liberals a nice broad brush with which to paint all conservatives.

What a stinking idiot.

Maybe this will convince even the liberals that there should be a death penalty.


3 posted on 07/29/2008 7:13:11 PM PDT by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: RDTF

What the hell is a Unitarian Universalist Church? That sounds like something a handful of warmed-over flatliners dreamed up after hitting the bong once too often. What are its tenets? Its dogma?


4 posted on 07/29/2008 7:15:23 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: ought-six
A lot of gays, very liberal, very “loose” theology many ways up the mountain and I'm gonna Love every body. White Rev Wright church.
5 posted on 07/29/2008 7:17:58 PM PDT by carcraft (The Obamalator, sold on TV, very expensive,doesn't work , is a cheap copy of the original Caterlator)
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To: Westbrook
“...Thanks a lot, jerk, for giving the liberals a nice broad brush with which to paint all conservatives....”

There is nothing there, the Liberals cant paint a brush over anything.......

I once read somewhere that

Jeffrey Dahmer is a registered Democrat

nothing there ???

6 posted on 07/29/2008 7:17:59 PM PDT by forYourChildrenVote4Bush (Today, July 16th I no longer donate money for Israel)
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To: ought-six
From their About Us page.

Unitarian Universalism is a liberal religion with Jewish-Christian roots. It has no creed. It affirms the worth of human beings, advocates freedom of belief and the search for advancing truth, and tries to provide a warm, open, supportive community for people who believe that ethical living is the supreme witness of religion.

They say it themselves. They believe in the Great Nothing.

7 posted on 07/29/2008 7:20:11 PM PDT by A message
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To: ought-six
What the hell is a Unitarian Universalist Church?
Here's a clue: Its' $hrillarys' "Church of Choice".
8 posted on 07/29/2008 7:20:55 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (If you aren't "advancing" your arguments,your losing "the battle of Ideas"...libs,hates the facts 8^)
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To: A message

Essentially, a Humanist cult.


9 posted on 07/29/2008 7:21:33 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Westbrook

Yeah, this reminds me of those liberal professors who referred to Stalin as a conservative. This guy should have waited for the Dalai Obama’s imminent coronation. Had he waited until November he would have had a job at McDonald’s making $50.00 an hour with full medical benefits.


10 posted on 07/29/2008 7:21:34 PM PDT by donaldo
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To: RDTF

bkmark


11 posted on 07/29/2008 7:22:42 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: RDTF
"He did express that frustration, that the liberal movement was getting more jobs," Owen said. "And he felt like he was being kept out of the loop because of his age." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

OMG! Gun control is the only answer.

I wonder how much editorial liberty was used in skewing the context of this "remark."

The MSM is so NOT RIGHT.

What about the fact that he did not have enough money to eat, or to buy his meds???

12 posted on 07/29/2008 7:23:14 PM PDT by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, (Ridicule Obama))
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To: ought-six
Think it might be one of those religions where the members drink symbolic blood and eat symbolic flesh?
14 posted on 07/29/2008 7:26:23 PM PDT by KDD ( it's not what people don't know that make them ignorant it's what they know that ain't so.)
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To: RDTF

“that the liberal movement was getting more jobs”

huh?


15 posted on 07/29/2008 7:29:31 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: RDTF

I understand the entire innocent until proven guilty thing but when everyone knows who did it is there any reason why he is called a “suspect”. There is no suspicion about it, the only question is what is the punishment.


16 posted on 07/29/2008 7:33:23 PM PDT by Domandred (McCain's 'R' is a typo that has never been corrected)
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To: A message; All
They believe in the Great Nothing.

Au contraire: They believe in themselves, and by logical extension, the Grand Arbitrer of human interactions, The State.  Hence, polytheism, and in a single stroke, a profound affront (borne of great joy) to all of Western Man's millennial sacrifices and struggles.

17 posted on 07/29/2008 7:39:28 PM PDT by Harrius Magnus (LIBERALS: We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity.)
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To: Domandred

If the suspect were a Muslim he’d be a hero! A martyr to boot!


18 posted on 07/29/2008 7:42:18 PM PDT by Squat (Deport the illegals now! Turn Home Depot's into the prisons to hold the illegals!.)
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To: KDD
Think it might be one of those religions where the members drink symbolic blood and eat symbolic flesh?

The UCC has Cristian roots but is not a Christian Church.

How long have you been waiting to use that one?

19 posted on 07/29/2008 7:42:40 PM PDT by magslinger (Infidel, American type, quantity one (1) each.)
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To: ScreamingFist

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20 posted on 07/29/2008 7:42:42 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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To: Harrius Magnus

Hammer, meet nail.


21 posted on 07/29/2008 7:46:46 PM PDT by A message
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To: Westbrook

How does a guy on food stamps hate liberals?

Enabled by liberals might be more accurate.


22 posted on 07/29/2008 7:48:29 PM PDT by rwilson99 (Barrack Obama... more in common with Archie Bunker than Tiger Woods)
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To: RDTF
Authorities also discovered a letter from the state government telling Adkisson he was having his food stamps reduced or eliminated,

A conservative on food stamps? And I wonder what is meant by his "hatred for the liberal movement"? Which part did he hate? Apparently not the government program part.

23 posted on 07/29/2008 7:54:36 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: donaldo
"Had he waited until November he would have had a job at McDonald’s making $50.00 an hour with full medical benefits."

Why work at McDonalds? When he could sit on his fat @$$ all day drinking MD2020 and get $30 an hour with full medical.

And then when I need to see a Doc I won't be able to, because him and all his buddies will have all the appointments booked.

24 posted on 07/29/2008 7:59:32 PM PDT by libs_kma (NOBAMA. Keep the change)
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To: Westbrook

Most conservatives I know would rather starve than be on food stamps.


25 posted on 07/29/2008 7:59:51 PM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: A message

Did you hear the one about the two Unitarian Universalists that were doing mission work? They came up to a door, rang the bell and when the homeowner answered, they asked: ‘Hello, may we speak with you a moment? What do we believe about God?’


26 posted on 07/29/2008 8:00:01 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Don't cheer for Obama too hard - the krinton syndicate is moving back into the WH.)
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To: KDD

“Think it might be one of those religions where the members drink symbolic blood and eat symbolic flesh?”

Hardly.


27 posted on 07/29/2008 8:00:11 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Domandred
charged with one count of first-degree murder in the shootings at Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church.

The gunman killed two adults and wounded seven others before being overpowered by congregants,

Even worse, he was given a chance at bond !!!

sure it was high, but just damn, they did 'overpower' the correct guy didnt they ???

28 posted on 07/29/2008 8:22:17 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Trust in the Lord...vote yer conscience...=...LiveFReeOr Die...)
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To: Westbrook

Or maybe people are beginning to wake up to the fact that the ‘People’s Party’ is exclusive to just a handful of rotten people on the Hill confiscating wealth and refusing to decrease costs to the consumers on important issues such as health care, education and energy. Even the Clinton’s in there blatant greed and corruption of the nineties threw the little guy a bone. But there wasn’t as much Democrat connection to the banking system then either. Most people still connect Wall St. and corrupt iBanks/mortgages to Republicans. But in reality, this all changed. Now corrupt banking (think of about a total of 50 people) have drilled too far into the consumer creating non-sustainable debt. And the famous ‘lawyers’ of the Democrat party legislated out safeguards in the late 90’s just as Clinton was leaving office. The current Democrat party figured out how to directly legislate there own pocketbooks and are investing the campaign contributions in mass media big time to further brainwash.

Having Democrats being in charge of a gift horse economy of the nineties thanks to the Internet boom. Now controlled collusion of energy and housing of a consolidation of power means this party will retain power for many years, at least until the 2012 elections if not beyond. They are directly fleecing population and manipulating the free markets. Socialize the profits, privatize the losses. It is the socialist way, ask Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro. You could also ask Mussolini if he were alive today. Mussolini came the closest to a balance of workable socialism but he was shrewd enough to throw bones to the working man. Nonetheless, the cracks were appearing in his economy as well prior to WWII.

Many to believe the Democrats were saviors and voted in this House majority are facing serious regrets. But I don’t give a pass to Republicans for allowing this to happen. You people got fat and lazy and I exclude President Bush. His deal was the mistake of hiring a splintered cabinet.

The Democrats continue to accelerate media investment to brainwash the masses that all Republicans were bad, evil people who didn’t care about the little guy. Now we see the blowback from failed promises. This is nothing compared to the Obamanation and Democrat House control in the next four years.

Meanwhile, my aged mother in law and Democrat fan filled idol worshipers of friends are consistently approaching me for personal loans because they can’t pay the bills. And these are not whiners that spent all there dough on a jungle safari either, they are working men and women representing all trades.

Perhaps I will advertise to tens of millions online telling them to vote for me in and then use my legislative power to vote into my own pocketbook. Oh wait, FDR figured that one out decades ago... Thank Emporer Hirohito for ending the last Great Depression. This current batch of idiots on the Hill are going to get a lot of us killed and guess what? It will still be Bush’s fault. Everything that happens from here on out is always Bush’s fault. Repeat after me, Democrat zombies...


29 posted on 07/29/2008 8:24:27 PM PDT by iThinkBig
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To: Westbrook

What, you’re buying this story? I call BS.


30 posted on 07/29/2008 8:26:03 PM PDT by TheRealDBear
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To: Harrius Magnus
...They believe in themselves,

Well, they have some sole searching to do. What did they do to cause this person feel so aggrieved that he would want to kill them?

This was not so much a crime, as a desperate cry for help.

31 posted on 07/29/2008 8:26:08 PM PDT by tsomer
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To: Tired of Taxes

Interesting that this supposed hatred for liberals and the tolerant church is mentioned constantly. Meanwhile similar acts of violence committed by muslims are downplayed or ignored. Like that shooting of several Jews by a muslim guy in Seattle, I think it was, a few years ago.

What this Knoxville nut did is to be condemned, and I hope he gets the death penalty. But I find it sad and infuriating also that his name and ugly face are being seen all over America while those animals who committed an even worse crime against that couple in Jan 2007 are nowhere to be seen in the national media.


32 posted on 07/29/2008 8:27:25 PM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: Westbrook

What they are NOT reporting is that his ex-wife is a long time member of the church.


33 posted on 07/29/2008 8:30:52 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: tsomer
Well, they have some sole searching to do.

Intentional or slip? 

34 posted on 07/29/2008 8:34:34 PM PDT by Harrius Magnus (LIBERALS: We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity.)
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To: forYourChildrenVote4Bush

As everyone knows, John Wayne Gacy was also a Democrat. However Liberals may counter by pointing out that Ted Bundy was a Republican.


36 posted on 07/29/2008 8:39:03 PM PDT by Merta (Who is the only parental unit that California Democrats wish preserved? The Aunt(Aunt War=ANWR))
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To: Tired of Taxes

This guys can’t be a conservative.

By picking up a gun, he just became one of them (liberals). Or, maybe, he has been a liberal all along and don’t know it.

Isn’t this crazy? But, then, isn’t liberalism nuts?


37 posted on 07/29/2008 8:48:13 PM PDT by Ben Reyes
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To: libs_kma

Exactly. Now for about two years I was wondering why I should continue running a business when I saw what was emerging. If a group can simply come along and confiscate profit through monetary policy on one side and legislating there own pockets on the other by market manipulation, it means I live in a Fascist State.

So what’s the next logical conclusion if you are not extremely wealthy and expatriate or build yourself a huge bunker with no ties to the outside world? You kiss the State’s ass or face bankruptcy. Guess this guy got tired of kissing ass.

I guess the welfare State is not so good for the soul after all. I guess I will have to give up my dream of not working, smoking bong hits, banging chicks and my occasional visit to the grocey store or drug dealer to exhange some of my stamps for drugs.

Whats that song ‘Counting flowers on the wall, that don’t bother me at all ?

Here is is: http://www.cowboylyrics.com/lyrics/heatherly-eric/countin-flowers-on-the-wall-15810.html


39 posted on 07/29/2008 9:16:44 PM PDT by iThinkBig
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To: Domandred
"I understand the entire innocent until proven guilty thing but when everyone knows who did it is there any reason why he is called a “suspect”. There is no suspicion about it, the only question is what is the punishment."

He maybe guilty of the action but there have been many cases were people did things only to save their families that were being held hostage.

Everything must be considered before the verdict is read.

40 posted on 07/29/2008 9:33:35 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Be careful. Robert Welch, the founder of the John Birch Society, was a Unitarian (and an agnostic).


41 posted on 07/29/2008 9:39:11 PM PDT by Clemenza (No Comment)
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To: TNCMAXQ
Meanwhile similar acts of violence committed by muslims are downplayed or ignored.

Very good point. The media picks and chooses.

42 posted on 07/29/2008 9:41:06 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants; RDTF; Ben Reyes; TNCMAXQ
What they are NOT reporting is that his ex-wife is a long time member of the church.

Blood of Tyrants pointed out the above. I didn't know that part of the story. I don't know if the rest of you knew about it, but here's an article talking more about the ex-wife belonging to that church:

SNIP: Adkisson's ex-wife once belonged to the church but hadn't attended in years, said Ted Jones, the congregation's president. Police spokesman Darrell DeBusk declined to comment on whether investigators think the ex-wife's link was a factor in the attack.... court records reviewed by The Associated Press show that his former wife obtained an order of protection in March 2000 while the two were still married and living in the Knoxville suburb of Powell. The couple had been married for nearly 10 years when Liza Alexander wrote in requesting the order that Adkisson threatened "to blow my brains out and then blow his own brains out." She told a judge she feared for her life.

So, this guy has been having problems for a long time. Btw, notice how the article mentions at the end that he was in the army for a few years back in the '70's. Now how is that relevant to the story?

43 posted on 07/29/2008 9:41:52 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: ought-six
What are its tenets? Its dogma?

You are supposed to bring your own.

44 posted on 07/29/2008 10:21:07 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: ought-six

The Unitarian Church is sort of like Obama, no morals, no direction, just a lot of feel good fluff


45 posted on 07/29/2008 11:00:21 PM PDT by Merlinator (Stop the Obamination!)
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To: iThinkBig
Whats that song ‘Counting flowers on the wall, that don’t bother me at all ?

"Countin' flowers on the wall, that don't bother me at all
Playin' solitaire till dawn with a deck of fifty-one
Smokin' cigarettes and watchin' Captain Kan-Kangaroo
Now don't tell meeee
I've nothin to doooo."

46 posted on 07/30/2008 12:31:35 AM PDT by Erasmus (A: Mendelssohn's Hebrides Overture. Q: What do you play at a gay wedding?)
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To: Erasmus

:)


47 posted on 07/30/2008 12:56:26 AM PDT by iThinkBig
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To: WorkingClassFilth
Did you hear the one about the two Unitarian Universalists that were doing mission work? They came up to a door, rang the bell and when the homeowner answered, they asked: ‘Hello, may we speak with you a moment? What do we believe about God?’

LOL!

48 posted on 07/30/2008 3:57:30 AM PDT by Alia
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To: Greysard

You are supposed to bring your own.


Or check yours at the door


49 posted on 07/30/2008 4:14:08 AM PDT by Rippin
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To: tiki
Most conservatives I know would rather starve than be on food stamps. Which is why the guy attempted "suicide by cop". His own statement, he said he fully expected to be killed by police. The fact that some in the church would gang-tackle him never crossed his mind.
50 posted on 07/30/2008 4:20:42 AM PDT by Prime Mover
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