[GodGunsGuts]

That all sounds well and good. But to my knowledge, there has not been a single study conducted to determine how many HIV-positives stay healthy. Nor will such studies ever be allowed, so long as the AIDS establishment is in charge IMHO.

[Mr Ramsbotham]

That all sounds well and good. But to my knowledge, there has not been a single study conducted to determine how many HIV-positives stay healthy.

And even if there are such studies, they're conducted on people who are known to be HIV positive, which means they're probably being treated with antiretrovirals, with all that that implies.

[neverdem]

That all sounds well and good. But to my knowledge, there has not been a single study conducted to determine how many HIV-positives stay healthy. Nor will such studies ever be allowed, so long as the AIDS establishment is in charge IMHO.

Why don't you look at mortality statistics before 1987 when AZT was first approved in this country. There was nothing before AZT. You can limit the years in which you are interested at PubMed.

""Current data," Dr. Windom said, "indicate that about 32,000 persons have been afflicted with AIDS in the United States, with about 14,000 of them still living."

Their T "helper" CD4 positive cells were selectively destroyed and they died unless they had unique genetics that prevent entry of that virus.