Posted on 08/05/2008 4:41:40 AM PDT by Neville72
Forensics specialist Techdude, who has been chipping away at the Obama Birth Certificate mystery for some time, has confirmed that the name on the original Certificate of Live Birth (COLB) which was used to forge the document presented by Barack Obama as his valid Birth Certificate IS:
Maya Kassandra Soetoro.
His sister.
The document presented by Obama as the “truth about his birth certificate” can be seen on his official campaign web page, “FightTheSmears,” here.
In an exclusive TexasDarlin report on Sunday, Techdude revealed that he had discovered the true identity of the person on the original COLB, but that he was not ready to disclose that person’s name.
He gave readers step-by-step instructions for conducting the analysis at home. In a follow-up post, I published a comment by Techdude in which he explained why he was waiting to name the person, and he challenged readers to solve the mystery first, offering a free trip to Las Vegas for the first person who posted the correct answer.
Several hours later, KG, a reader on the TexasDarlin blog, posted her/his discovery in the Comments section of this post, and detailed the technical process she/he followed to get there.
KG revealed the original name on the COLB:
Maya Kassandra Soetoro.
Techdude has reviewed KG’s analysis, and verified the result.
KG does not have the technical tools to immediately produce a report for publication, and is not sure he/she wants to be published. Nevertheless, you can read KG’s process yourself in the Comment thread.
In the coming days, Techdude will provide a final report that fully discloses his discovery, and provides all the fancy technical data, images, formulae etc. that everyone has come to expect. He will respond to questions posted on this blog to the best of his ability. (NOTE: KG has asked Techdude to donate the trip funds to help retire Hillary’s debt, and Techdude has agreed.)
Now, Senator Obama faces a serious and urgent inquiry from Americans:
Why was his sister Maya’s birth certificate used to make his own?
I have a preliminary theory, and it goes something like this:
The Hawaii COLB form was revised in 2001. Prior to that, it included much more birth information, such as name of the hospital, signatures and professions of parents, etc.
If Obama needed to show his birth certificate to the public during the election, he wanted to present the current short version, but the one he had in a shoebox somewhere was an older version.
When it became clear in 2007 that he might need to show it, Maya’s COLB was ordered. Obama did not order his own because he didn’t want a chatty Hawaii Govt. employee to notice that the child’s name on his COLB is Barry Soetoro, and the father’s name, Lolo Soetoro. He did not want his legal name and Indonesian identity to be known.
If it got to the point that the campaign needed to show a birth certificate, as a last resort they would make a few digital adjustments to Maya’s in order to transform it into Barack Hussein Obama’s COLB, and post it on line. They trusted, in this event, that Govt. employees or officials would not bother to check it against his real name, or would just keep quiet if they did notice. Obama probably never expected the electorate to question its authenticity, at least not to this degree.
That’s my theory, anyway.
There are, of course, two other important questions related to this investigation:
1. Is Maya aware that her COLB was used to fabricate Obama’s?
AND
2. Why does Maya have a Hawaiian birth certificate in the first place, as she was born in Indonesia?
Judah Benjamin, our resident historian and researcher, will be discussing these questions in the coming days.
Stay tuned.
Maybe now the MSM will WAKE UP to this story.
I think my computer is hiccupping this morning. This is the second double post!
Who would be his replacement if he were constitutionally ineligible would be insignificant. Upholding the constitution would be the vital issue no matter the results.
We don’t apply it only when we like the results.
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Please read the entire blogs on this. This is a snippet of an ongoing investigation by a historian. Seriously. Go to Texas Darlings website. But beware it is a Hillary supporting website.
Bingo. That is correct. I grew up with friends who were born in Africa to an American mother and a Canadian father. While US naturalized citizenship was easy for them to obtain, they were not considered “natural born.”
Exactly.
Please keep in mind that I am only dealing with the ability to run for office. If Obama were elected and then found to be ineligible to be President, he could not be sworn in and the person elected Vice-President would then become President (25th Amendment, I think). Bill and Hillary may be thinking of such a scenario.
See post # 88.
I suspect this is all about something less grand: Did Barack dump his Indonesian fathers name and "readopt" his birth name of "..Hussein Obama"so that he could have better entre into the world of African-American radicalism? Not a disqualifier, but nonetheles embarrassing, in that it makes him look all the more like a poseur.
Congress decreed in 1790 that “...the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond the sea, or outside the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens...”
In other words, the term “natural born” at the time of the US Constitution’s writing meant someone who was born inside the US. As time went on, as with this 1790 law, it became necessary to include exceptions as “natural born.”
There are a couple of issues with Obama, but if he was born in the US, then he is a natural born US citizen.
1. Without a birth certificate, there is no proof that he was born in the US.
2. Without a DNA swab, there’s no proof that the woman he calls mother is his mother.
3. This article suggests that sister Maya was born in Indonesia and that someone had fabricated a birth certificate for her.
ROFL!!
“Bubba to ABC News yesterday: “I think everybody’s got a right to run for president who qualifies under the Constitution.””
Perhaps this is the bombshell (and NOT the “whitey” rumors) that the Clinton campaign had during the primaries - but was absolutely afraid to use against Obama.
I sense that whatever information that the busy conservative bloggers are working on, the Clintons already HAVE, and in spades.
- John
Maya’s mother is Barack’s mother.
The specific clause says: To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations.
Now, the clause (sub-clause, actually, if that) says nothing about the U.S. being bound by the "Law of Nations" -- and, indeed, we are not. The clause (if you really want to call it that....) does nothing more than authorize Congress to "define and punish ... Offences against" it.
Further, it's pretty clear that the "Law of Nations" does not refer to any specific body of internationally promulgated law; rather, it is more a reference to a set of philosophical principles -- which is why Congress was given power to define offenses against it. A good discussion can be found here. In particular:
In the debate on the floor of the Convention, the discussion turned on the question as to whether the terms, ''felonies'' and the ''law of nations,'' were sufficiently precise to be generally understood. The view that these terms were often so vague and indefinite as to require definition eventually prevailed and Congress was authorized to define as well as punish piracies, felonies, and offenses against the law of nations.
It is, further, quite clear that the context of the term as used in the clause you cite is much different from any questions of Obama's citizenship.
Out of thin air? Follow the story a bit closer. Thanks
Yes, though he could certainly *claim* he was just going back to his original birth name.
I've read enough to recognize grasping at straws, thanks. Obama was born in the State of Hawaii ... he's Constitutionally eligible.
That he forged his birth certificate.
Maya Kassandra Soetoro was born in Indonesia but having US citizenship is very valuable in the world. Maya’s mother was American so perhaps obtaining a US birth certificate makes sense.
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