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Babies a drag on the economy, report says
http://www.news.com.au/business/story/0,27753,24134255-5017313,00.html ^

Posted on 08/06/2008 1:42:02 PM PDT by traumer

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To: traumer

What a load of tripe. I am willing to bet the study was conducted by people either too repulsive or too socially inept to procreate.


41 posted on 08/06/2008 2:36:59 PM PDT by GulfBreeze (Vote for John McCain along with Tom DeLay, John Cornyn and the majority of conservatives.)
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42 posted on 08/06/2008 2:48:41 PM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (Some days it is not worth chewing through the restraints.)
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White Christians having that third child (or more) gets in the way of the Muslim demographic takeover the Left seems to yearn for. Why would that be? After all, Muslims are seemingly against most liberal causes (like equal rights for women & gays). The answer, quite simply, is that Muslims are more easily led than freethinking peoples. If an Imam can convince someone to be a suicide bomber, convincing them to pay higher taxes should be a piece of cake.


43 posted on 08/06/2008 3:05:00 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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44 posted on 08/06/2008 4:05:19 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: traumer

This is really amazing, considering that during some of the most prosperous decades in American history, most women *never* entered the work force and the average family had more children than it does today.

Oh and where’s the study showing the much larger carbon footprint for a woman in the labor force than being home with her children? Where are the libs with that info? (crickets chirping...)


45 posted on 08/06/2008 4:20:14 PM PDT by Zechariah_8_13 (The golden rule can't operate through a government program, it can only work between people.)
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With few exceptions, those having more than two or three children are the very poor who are not working anyway.....

Do you have a source for that?
46 posted on 08/06/2008 4:23:19 PM PDT by Zechariah_8_13 (The golden rule can't operate through a government program, it can only work between people.)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

I wouldn’t say *few* exceptions. I know a fair number of families with more than 3 kids and they’re all hard working productive members of society.

That being said, the government needs to stop paying welfare for babies once the women get past one. Cut off the cash flow and you’ll see the number of welfare babies drop like a rock.


47 posted on 08/06/2008 4:26:37 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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I try to be charitable,but I guess this is one of those times when my sense charity is failing.

What a %^$#ing idiot.


48 posted on 08/06/2008 6:08:37 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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Japan? Look at Italy today, and the rest of EU.


49 posted on 08/06/2008 6:47:24 PM PDT by huldah1776 ( Worthy is the Lamb)
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To: Zechariah_8_13

Sure - here is one: http://www.cis.org/articles/2005/back1105.html


50 posted on 08/06/2008 8:57:16 PM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (It's the Vast Wright Wing Conspiracy - labeling all whites as racist.)
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This is the most ridiculous thing I’ve read in a long time. This is why Obama has a chance of becoming president. The ignorance is unreal.


51 posted on 08/07/2008 4:18:54 AM PDT by samiam1972 ("It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish."-Mother Teresa)
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To: traumer
Note this is Australia where, even though fertility may higher than in the past 25 years, it still isn't high enough. This commission is not impressed; they say, almost in those words: "We need tax revenues now; to hell with the future".
52 posted on 08/07/2008 5:49:57 AM PDT by Christopher Lincoln
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The article you linked states:

In 2002, immigrant women (legal and illegal) from the top-10 immigrant-sending countries had 2.9 children on average, compared to a fertility rate of 2.3 children in their home countries -- a 23-percent difference.

It also states that average number of children decreases with educational level. There are many reasons for that (average age of marriage being one), which is the subject of a different post. However, educational level is not a sole determinant of employment. There are many, many women with PhDs who stay home with their children, and many women without a high school diploma working 80 hours a week.

So once again, where is the source for your assertion that "With few exceptions, those having more than two or three children are the very poor who are not working anyway....."?
53 posted on 08/07/2008 9:26:33 AM PDT by Zechariah_8_13 (The golden rule can't operate through a government program, it can only work between people.)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

I meant to say after the quote that the article you linked doesn’t compare Immigrant fertility to native-born fertility. It only compares immigrant fertility in their native countries to fertility in their host country.


54 posted on 08/07/2008 9:29:57 AM PDT by Zechariah_8_13 (The golden rule can't operate through a government program, it can only work between people.)
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“The higher fertility of less-educated immigrants means that a much larger share of births to immigrants are to women with little formal education than is the case for natives. This is important because education is the best predictor of income, poverty, use of means-tested programs, and a host of other measures of social well being. For the children of immigrants it means that a very large share may grow up poor. These findings also have implications for likely educational attainment of the children of immigrants. Those born to less educated parents are themselves at higher risk for dropping out of high school”


55 posted on 08/07/2008 9:33:47 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (It's the Vast Wright Wing Conspiracy - labeling all whites as racist.)
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