Uncommon Earth - Simulation shows the solar system could only form under rare conditions

Science News ^ | August 7th, 2008 | Ashley Yeager

[BuckeyeForever]

There was no Physics, and there was no high school at that time. Genesis is not a Physics manual. It is a story with a religious meaning. Does any of that make sense to you?

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No, of course not.

[oprahstheantichrist]

That was brilliant.

I’ve thought for many years that time is something that God created for man’s benefit, so that we can organize our lives.

I had agonized for years over “Which is true, seven days, or a billion years?” Then it occurred to me (revealed I guess) that it could be both, and that our finite minds cannot comprehend “time” as He does.

[BuckeyeForever]

“God can do what he wants.”
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Better:
We can define God any way we want — to assuage our fear of death, and “solve” the mysteries about our existence. And for those things that do not make sense if we believe in a God, we can simply shrug and say, “God can do what he wants.” In other words, for the weak-minded, we can solve life’s mysteries by conjuring up a mysterious creator and interloper.

[BuckeyeForever]

I wasn’t there, you weren’t there, none of us were there.

But some of us know Someone who was.

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The Flying Spghetti Monster??????

[Gondring]

Why are you artificially limiting it to "quadrillions" of draws? There were actually 10^{932,223,452,481,938,323,879,571,698,879} draws before this one.

And recall, 4.3332 x 10^421,843,367 draws ago, that universe emerged with the physical laws that were similar to the ones we have, and there was that planet that had those self-replicating silicon-based structures, roughly similar to the "viruses" that we see in our universe.

And how about those ones where the laws were different from thsi universe?

You don't remember them?

Well, are you trying to limit God...to say that there's no way He couldn't have created 10^{932,223,452,481,938,323,879,571,698,879} universes prior to this one?

We just wouldn't know...whether God or "nature" created so many universes prior to ours. "Time" is not a current in which we all float at a constant rate...especially when you go outside the universe.

[SunkenCiv]

Note: this topic is from August 7th, 2008. Thanks neverdem.

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[SunkenCiv]

Note: this topic is from August 7th, 2008. Thanks neverdem.

Something like this has been posted more recently, but I couldn't find it. Here's a hunt for Peter Ward Donald Brownlee:

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[wendy1946]

In real life, gravity has no power to form swirling disks of “solar aterial” into planets. Cosmic objects are mostly plasma physics phenomena, 99 point something percent of the mass of the universe is in plasma form, giant currents run through the plasma, and the one thing in the picture which has any real power to agglomerate material into galaxies, strings of galaxies, stars, and planets, is the Z-pinch phenomenon associated with Birkeland currents.

[IFly4Him]

If a “Creator” did some “tuning” to create an Earth that is so “unique,” why did that “Creator” have to create a universe that is so unfathomably large, and then have to wait 16 billion years before that “unique” Earth spawned human life? I hate to cast aspersions on your deity, but your god is one slow and inefficient creator.

Perhaps he wanted to show us in the physical universe a reflection of his nature, his character: infinite, eternal, long-suffering, artistic, ordered and, yes, creative too...