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Police chief expresses regret over drug raid
The Baltimore Sun ^ | August 9, 2008 | Gus G. Sentementes

Posted on 08/09/2008 10:50:27 AM PDT by mdefranc

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To: Popman
I find it a strange that people who are married don't take the same name. As far as I know only progressives, liberals, think it's OK to flaunt traditional marriage.

You need to get out more. I wait for the fool political opinion broadcast before I typecast somebody. A woman who is a well-known writer might keep her maiden name for publicity purposes. A woman who is a surgeon might keep her maiden name for patient familiarity purposes. Is it strictly traditional? No. Are they for sure commies? No.

Back on topic... I keep a weapon at hand almost all the time in my house. Paranoid? Maybe. But if my door came crashing in somebody would die before they got to the cats and Mrs. Felis (yes we're over the top conservatives and yes she has my last name) if the intruders weren't screaming "POLICE" and were obviously the real thing. .

21 posted on 08/09/2008 11:33:18 AM PDT by Felis_irritable (Dirty_Felis_Irritable...)
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To: Popman

The Baltimore Sun wrong? Many times, but not here.


22 posted on 08/09/2008 11:36:24 AM PDT by junkman_106 (The ALCU can go have aerial intercourse with a revolving glazed pastry.)
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To: microgood
A pathetic attempt at character assasination to justify evil.

Kindly point out where I posted a comment that justifies what happens to these people. If you read what I wrote

I was hopeful the MSM would actually run with this incident so the larger issue gets some press coverage

Your reading comprehension skills need an upgrade.

Even if their parents are aging hippies, why would that justify this incident?

23 posted on 08/09/2008 11:37:44 AM PDT by Popman (McCain as POTUS is odious, Obama as POTUS is unthinkable.)
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To: OKIEDOC
Hooked On SWAT (FR thread from 2001)

Fueled With Drug Enforcement Money, Military-Style Police Teams Are Exploding In The Backwoods Of Wisconsin

-snip-

Except for the fact that they were not even suspected of a crime, the Olvedas' experience is not as rare as one might think. Throughout rural Wisconsin, squads of cops in black battle dress armed with military-style weapons and trained in "dynamic entry" are becoming increasingly active.

Since January 2000 alone, six SWAT teams were put into action in the state, most recently in tiny Forest County, where only 18 patrol officers serve a 1,000-square-mile jurisdiction with a population of just over 9,000.

-end excerpt-

--http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b7f184e7c53.htm

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In October 2007, a member of the Forest County SWAT team murdered 6 of his former HS classmates, then fled the scene and apparently killed himself:

6 friends killed at party in Crandon (Forest County, WI)

24 posted on 08/09/2008 11:40:07 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: Felis_irritable
I completely understand why a women would take a different names for the reasons you state in your post.

I would think the Mayor and his wife of a town would hold to more traditional norms, but that's JMO

CCW myself. Paranoid. No ! Just prepared

25 posted on 08/09/2008 11:42:49 AM PDT by Popman (McCain as POTUS is odious, Obama as POTUS is unthinkable.)
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To: commonguymd
"...police are supposed to supposedly “protect and serve”

Wow. Where have you been? "Protect and serve" died out decades ago with very few exceptions. All that's left now is law enforcment officers (LEO's). Don't get me wrong, I'm glad they're there but their only mandate is the law.
26 posted on 08/09/2008 11:45:56 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Liberty Valance

....mandate is the law.....

...and revenue collection beyond playing with dangerous toys to subjugate the masses.

“protect and serve” - They still have it on the police cars in places. Oughta come off.


27 posted on 08/09/2008 11:48:13 AM PDT by commonguymd (A de facto single party country is nigh. The partisan bickering is a mere bilking mechanism.)
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28 posted on 08/09/2008 11:52:19 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Popman

oops. :-)

Meant to add comments to that. Nevermind.


29 posted on 08/09/2008 11:53:47 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: mysterio
Yeah, it sucks that the general population has to wait until the failed drug war and SWAT abuse hits a mayor to actually care about it. But to be fair, a lot of us have been outraged about it for years.

Anyone know the mayor's views on it prior to this?

30 posted on 08/09/2008 11:55:49 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: mdefranc
This police chief like quite a few in this nation need to be put back to civilian jobs like door greeters at a well known Big Box Mart store. They can never get enough new toys or new laws it seems. In East Tennessee for example a certain Police Chief has become the unofficial spokesperson for a certain red light camera company. Meaning now promoting the idea with other agencies outside his juristiction. One town with barely 20 lights is putting up ten of these revenue generators. Enough of it. Their job is to protect and serve, not be paramilitary Rambo wannabe or an All Seeing Eye Agency.

No more No Knock Raids on citizens homes. No more dark suited ninja's either. No more unmarked car routine traffic stops is another. Except for actual undercover work all law enforcement officers while on duty making contact with the public should be in a uniform with badge in plain sight. Is that asking too much?

I support law enforcement in general but many police chiefs are getting way out of hand and crossing the line between actual police work and are focusing on controlling citizens lives. They need to be stopped trying to make themselves out as being our benevolent overlords.

31 posted on 08/09/2008 11:57:12 AM PDT by cva66snipe ($.01 The current difference between the DEM's and GOP as well as their combined worth to this nation)
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To: Popman

So, mentioning that their parents might be aging hippies is besides the point. Oh, ok. I agree. Totally irrelevant.V’s wife.


32 posted on 08/09/2008 11:58:10 AM PDT by ventana
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To: Popman
I said their parents were "maybe" hippies because of the names they gave their children

You questioning the spelling of their names is an obvious cockn'bull attempt to discredit these people and has zip to do with the facts regarding this incident.

33 posted on 08/09/2008 12:10:17 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Popman
Kindly point out where I posted a comment that justifies what happens to these people.

I guess I questioned your motivation for attacking these people personally. Normally that is a sign of what I alluded to. If you say that was not your intent I take you at your word. Your original statement, however, could not be left untouched without further clarification.

Your reading comprehension skills need an upgrade.

The fact that other Freepers immediately responded as they did indicates the message was unclear at the very least.
34 posted on 08/09/2008 12:22:39 PM PDT by microgood
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To: dragnet2
You questioning the spelling of their names is an obvious cockn'bull attempt to discredit these people and has zip to do with the facts regarding this incident.

I was not discrediting these people, just wondering why they had strange names and do not keep with traditional marriage rituals

You are entitled to your wrong opinion

35 posted on 08/09/2008 1:02:46 PM PDT by Popman (McCain as POTUS is odious, Obama as POTUS is unthinkable.)
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To: mdefranc

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Somewhere up there ^^^^^^^

Thread hijaxing. 0_o


36 posted on 08/09/2008 1:32:36 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: mdefranc

Cpl. Stephen Pacheco, a county police spokesman, said the agency has begun a review of the incident that is common in cases where force is used by police, “to make sure everything was done correctly.”


Just amazing, isn’t it? They’re still operating from the standpoint that what they did was correct. Their own review is merely to backup that claim.

A lot of people claim the war on drugs is a collosal failure. I disagree. If the purpose was actually to put more power and control over the populace into the hands of government, it was a smashing success.

It’s win-win for the police. They get power and control over the very lives of anyone they target, and get to play Rambo at the same time.


37 posted on 08/09/2008 1:49:04 PM PDT by kenth (Just think, .000001783% of the population is screwing it all up for the rest of us.)
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To: mdefranc
From the article: Cpl. Stephen Pacheco, a county police spokesman, said the agency has begun a review of the incident that is common in cases where force is used by police, "to make sure everything was done correctly."

I don't see how anything was done correctly.

38 posted on 08/09/2008 1:54:25 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Man, that's stupid ... even by congressional standards.)
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To: NonValueAdded

My mistake.


39 posted on 08/09/2008 1:59:21 PM PDT by packrat35 (If mccain is the answer-it must have been a REALLY stupid question)
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To: Popman
Not really a comment on the subject matter, but if they are married, shouldn't her last name be "Calvo"

Hate to tell you but my wife of thirty six years uses her maiden name. Why not? It was the name she 'traditionally' had right up to when we got married; you wouldn't want her to abandon tradition, would you?

40 posted on 08/09/2008 2:19:16 PM PDT by Grut
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