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Victor Davis Hanson: Moscow’s Sinister Brilliance. Who wants to die for Tbilisi?
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| August 12, 2008
| Victor Davis Hanson
Posted on 08/12/2008 5:48:45 AM PDT by Tolik
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posted on
08/12/2008 5:48:45 AM PDT
by
Tolik
To: neverdem; Lando Lincoln; quidnunc; .cnI redruM; SJackson; dennisw; monkeyshine; Alouette; ...
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posted on
08/12/2008 5:50:13 AM PDT
by
Tolik
To: Tolik
I respect this man greatly, and I hate it that he’s correct.
I’d rather hear, “The bombings begin in ten minutes...”
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posted on
08/12/2008 5:51:29 AM PDT
by
Diana in Wisconsin
(Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
To: Tolik
The Russians have sized up the moral bankruptcy of the Western Left. They know that half-a-million Europeans would turn out to damn their patron the United States for removing a dictator and fostering democracy, but not more than a half-dozen would do the same to criticize their long-time enemy from bombing a constitutional state. Where are all the liberals? Where are the liberal activist MSM types denouncing Russia? Oh, how they hate the U.S., and are silent when the bear crushes a democracy. They are fools unworthy of pity.
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posted on
08/12/2008 5:52:22 AM PDT
by
Obadiah
(I remember when the climate never changed, then Bush stole the election.)
To: Running On Empty
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posted on
08/12/2008 5:52:56 AM PDT
by
Running On Empty
((The three sorriest words:"It's too late"))
To: Tolik
Gori is the birthplace of Josef Stalin. No wonder Putin wants it back...............
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posted on
08/12/2008 5:53:10 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(All that carbon in all that oil and coal was once in the atmosphere. We're just putting it back.....)
To: Diana in Wisconsin
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posted on
08/12/2008 5:53:18 AM PDT
by
txhurl
To: Tolik
The Russians rightly expect Westerners to turn on themselves, rather than Moscow and they wont be disappointed. Imagine the morally equivalent fodder for liberal lament: We were unilateral in Iraq, so we cant say Russia cant do the same to Georgia. (As if removing a genocidal dictator is the same as attacking a democracy). We accepted Kosovos independence, so why not Ossetias? (As if the recent history of Serbia is analogous to Georgias.) We are still captive to neo-con fantasies about democracy, and so encouraged Georgias efforts that provoked the otherwise reasonable Russians (As if the problem in Ossetia is our principled support for democracy rather than appeasement of Russian dictatorship).How very sad but true.
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posted on
08/12/2008 5:54:34 AM PDT
by
rhombus
To: txflake
Oops! I compensated for the inflation on everything these days, LOL! ;)
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posted on
08/12/2008 5:55:14 AM PDT
by
Diana in Wisconsin
(Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
To: Tolik
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posted on
08/12/2008 5:55:55 AM PDT
by
1rudeboy
To: Tolik
“The new reality is that a nuclear, cash-rich, and energy-blessed Russia doesnt really worry too much whether its long-term future is bleak, given problems with Muslim minorities, poor life-expectancy rates, and a declining population. Instead, in the here and now, it has a window of opportunity to reclaim prestige and weaken its adversaries. So why hesitate?”
As I've said for years. A wounded bear is the most dangerous bear. They have nothing to lose at this point.
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posted on
08/12/2008 5:57:48 AM PDT
by
Ghost of Philip Marlowe
(If Hillary is elected, her legacy will be telling the American people: Better put some ice on that.)
To: Tolik
Outstanding article. We need to immediately convene NATO and grant membership to Ukraine. To show Putin that he may have won Georgia but he has lost Ukraine forever.
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posted on
08/12/2008 6:01:16 AM PDT
by
mick
To: Obadiah
The Left is busy planning an anti-W and anti-America protest on Washington, D.C. to accuse us of forcing the Russians to commit this noble act against our foreign aggression (probably).
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posted on
08/12/2008 6:02:57 AM PDT
by
Ghost of Philip Marlowe
(If Hillary is elected, her legacy will be telling the American people: Better put some ice on that.)
To: Tolik
Let’s hope VDH is wrong and that we have a few more cards up our sleeve.
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posted on
08/12/2008 6:09:54 AM PDT
by
hershey
To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
Nothing to lose, little to fear and everything to gain. Nicely planned operation by Putin and Co.
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posted on
08/12/2008 6:11:17 AM PDT
by
GBA
To: mick
Outstanding article. We need to immediately convene NATO and grant membership to Ukraine. To show Putin that he may have won Georgia but he has lost Ukraine forever. I agree. One standard view of how WWI started was a that a series of secret alliances helped a small fight in Serbia turn into a major Great Power conflagration. Georgia (sadly) is not in NATO. If western powers rush to defend Georgia as if it were a NATO member, then this is tantamount to a secet alliance (or a post facto alliance). That would be a bad choice.
On the other hand, pushing NATO membership of Ukraine is the opposite. Openly and enthusiaticly bring Ukraine under the umbrella of NATO and make it clear that Russian meddling will have massive consequences -- that's the way to teach Putin some manners.
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posted on
08/12/2008 6:11:54 AM PDT
by
ClearCase_guy
(Et si omnes ego non)
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To: Tolik
i wonder when europe’s going to wake up?
angela merkel, the chancellor of germany, opposed georgia’s admission to nato last month, after president bush’s trip.
france had questions about the “balance of power” changing in europe if the ukraine and georgia were allowed to join nato.
so, there you are.
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posted on
08/12/2008 6:15:58 AM PDT
by
ken21
(people die and you never hear from them again.)
To: Obadiah
Right. Where are all the peaceniks? Anybody protesting at the Russian embassy?
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posted on
08/12/2008 6:19:27 AM PDT
by
Tolik
To: Obadiah
There is no doubt that the American left are enemies of this nation and if successful will help foster the destruction of the world’s greatest super power — a house divided against itself cannot stand.
It really puts the Drill Here, Drill now issue in perspective.
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posted on
08/12/2008 6:21:16 AM PDT
by
KansasGirl
( b/c Obama is just creepy.)
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