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"Why I Love the Baby of the Man Who Raped Me"
LifeSiteNews ^ | 8/12/08 | Hilary White

Posted on 08/12/2008 4:18:44 PM PDT by wagglebee

August 12, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) - When sixteen year-old Elizabeth Cameron found she was pregnant after being brutally gang raped, "practically everyone" in her life said she had every moral and legal right to kill her daughter by abortion. But Elizabeth defied the world's wisdom and says, now that her daughter Phoebe is a toddler, that she could not imagine life without her.

"Every time I look at Phoebe, I know I made the right decision. I never wanted to end my baby's life just because of how she came to be," she told the Daily Mail this weekend.

In the Mail's extensive human interest piece on Saturday, Cameron, now 19, talks about her hopes to marry and her plans to attend university. So great was the pressure on Elizabeth, a regular churchgoer, to have an abortion, the Mail's Angela Carless wrote, "That Phoebe exists at all almost defies belief." Only Elizabeth's mother, Sarah, suggested the alternative to abortion.

"Everyone, save for mum, thought I should have an abortion," she said. "My dad even made an appointment at the clinic, and they showed me the little blob on the scan, I presume, to convince me that it was just a mass of cells and the whole thing would be over quickly."

Elizabeth confided that none of her friends at school could understand why "anyone my age would want to have a baby rather than an abortion." She said that the few she told of the rape were "even more horrified" that she would refuse an abortion.

"But," she said, "I did. And I don't regret it for a moment."

Elizabeth's mom Sarah, 53, said of Phoebe, "Having her in my life is such a joy. From the first time I held her in my arms, I have had this fierce bond with her, a connection which started even before she was born. She looks like me when I was her age, and I feel strongly that she was meant to be a part of our family."

In Britain there are few meaningful legal restrictions on abortion and the possibility of a conception during a rape is commonly offered as one of the strongest justifications for legal abortion. Elizabeth told the Daily Mail that even though she had "strong views" on the wrongness of abortion, she might have once have shared this opinion about the justifiability of abortion in cases of rape; but her mind was abruptly changed, she said, when she was shown the "mass of cells" on a scan at an abortion facility that was her child.

Elizabeth said that despite the disapproval of most of her family and the open scorn of people in her village and church, it was "surprisingly easy" to love Phoebe as she was growing in the womb. "While it was terrifying, knowing that I was going to be a mum made me look forward and focus on something else. I suppose I have tried to look beyond what happened, to the life that was created."

Most countries, even some who have otherwise strong legal protections for unborn children, allow abortion for pregnancies due to rape. Some even in the pro-life movement report feeling at a loss as to how to react to the emotionally charged insistence on legal abortion in cases of rape. But American pro-life apologetics trainer and lecturer Scott Klusendorf says the appeal to the "hard case of rape" is a dishonest tactic used by the abortion lobby to undermine the comprehensiveness of the pro-life position.

Klusendorf, the author of "Pro-Life 101: a Step by Step Guide to Making Your Case Persuasively" writes, "How should a civil society treat innocent human beings that remind us of a painful event?  May we kill them so that we can feel better?  Put differently, can you think of any other case where, having been victimized yourself, you can justly turn around and victimize another completely innocent person?"

As part of his training seminar for aspiring pro-life apologists, Klusendorf reminds that, simply put, two wrongs do not make a right. "If the unborn is a human being, she should not be killed to benefit her mother. Hardship does not justify homicide. Hence, we are back to the one question that trumps all others in the abortion debate: What is the unborn?"

Rebecca Kiessling, a Michigan woman who was conceived in a rape and who has taken up pro-life advocacy, wrote that as soon as she realised the relevance of abortion to her life, she "heard" the echoes of people who support the so-called "rape exception" as though they were judging her very existence.

"It was as if I could hear the echoes of all those people who, with the most sympathetic of tones, would say, 'Well, except in cases of rape. . .  ,' or who would rather fervently exclaim in disgust: 'Especially is cases of rape!!!'  All these people are out there who don't even know me, but are standing in judgment of my life, so quick to dismiss it just because of how I was conceived.  I felt like I was now going to have to justify my own existence."

Read Elizabeth's story in the Daily Mail:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1043041/I-raped-le...



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: abortion; cultureoflife; forgiveness; moralabsolutes; motherhood; prolife; rape
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To: Marie2

Well stated.


21 posted on 08/12/2008 5:22:23 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper (A vote for third party is a vote for nObama)
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To: Marie2; big'ol_freeper
When you are the primary instrument in turning evil into good, you are really healed.

One of the most loving mothers I have EVER met is a perfect example of this:

Prayer Request for Rape Victim

22 posted on 08/12/2008 5:29:46 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: infowarrior

Believers in Christ are the Church. There are some really “on fire for the Lord” “meeting houses just like there are some beautiful but stone cold buildings. We are known by our fruit though and I would say that many in her church ought to look at this young girl’s example.


23 posted on 08/12/2008 5:59:21 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: marinamuffy

Good point.


24 posted on 08/12/2008 6:00:45 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg
I would say that many in her church ought to look at this young girl’s example.

Certainly won't disagree there...

the infowarrior

25 posted on 08/12/2008 6:09:57 PM PDT by infowarrior
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To: wagglebee; Age of Reason

I believe you were outspoken, about this subject, on a recent thread.

Care to weigh in here?


26 posted on 08/12/2008 6:12:26 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: wagglebee

Gang rape in Britain? Hmmm... dare I wonder about the ethnicities?


27 posted on 08/12/2008 6:42:28 PM PDT by Teacher317 (Thank you Dith Pran for showing us what Communism brings)
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To: peggybac

“Nice family. Nice village. Nice church. Geez.”

Maybe it’s one of those perverted “churches” that approves of homosexuality...


28 posted on 08/12/2008 7:44:22 PM PDT by Levante
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To: wagglebee
Good story, thanks.

Ethyl Waters' Mother was raped by a black man when she was 12 or 13. This is from From Her Autobiography

Ethel Waters related this story in her autobiography, His Eye is on the Sparrow: "I never was a child. I never felt I belonged. I was always an outsider." Her mother resented and disliked her because she conceived Ethel as the result of a knife point rape when she was only 12-years-old. Ethel raised over 20 little girls, giving them all the love and discipline she never had as a child. She supported her mother all her life and her mother was able before she died to accept her and tell her she loved her, an event Ethel placed as the greatest in her life "except for finding God."

29 posted on 08/12/2008 7:59:33 PM PDT by Syncro (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: wagglebee

What an incredibly uplifting story! May God bless her and her sweet child.


30 posted on 08/12/2008 8:46:35 PM PDT by samiam1972 ("It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish."-Mother Teresa)
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To: Coleus; nickcarraway; narses; Mr. Silverback; Canticle_of_Deborah; TenthAmendmentChampion; ...

20 weeks from conception

Please Freepmail me if you want on or off my Pro-Life Ping List.
31 posted on 08/12/2008 9:11:40 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at KnightsForLife.org)
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To: wagglebee

What a neat story!


32 posted on 08/12/2008 9:15:48 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: cpforlife.org; wagglebee

A profound act of liberty.


33 posted on 08/12/2008 9:55:33 PM PDT by Gene Eric
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To: Teacher317

the baby looks pretty caucazoid...

my first reaction before looking at the pic was different


34 posted on 08/12/2008 10:03:03 PM PDT by wardaddy ("Cause my grey hair just can't cover up my redneck.")
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To: wagglebee

I would bet my life that everyone on this board is a descendent from someone who was a product of rape at some point given history and the steady practice of conquest and women being pretty much fair game in conquered lands.

I applaud this lady and her daughter but in real politics I would consider the banning of abortion except in the case of rape, incest or LIFE..not health...of the mother

a huge victory!


35 posted on 08/12/2008 10:06:41 PM PDT by wardaddy ("Cause my grey hair just can't cover up my redneck.")
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To: wagglebee
Pinged from Terri Dailies

8mm


36 posted on 08/13/2008 3:16:37 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: Marie2
When you are the primary instrument in turning evil into good, you are really healed.

Truer words were never spoken....and a thought to remember along life's bumpy road. Thank you.

37 posted on 08/13/2008 3:23:28 AM PDT by ZinGirl
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To: wagglebee

AMEN


38 posted on 08/13/2008 3:39:51 AM PDT by bmwcyle (If God wanted us to be Socialist, Karl Marx would have been born in America.)
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To: Grizzled Bear

People who find ZERO SUPPORT for their pathetic agenda on one thread generally drop it.


39 posted on 08/13/2008 5:40:40 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

What’s with this bumper sticker: “If you can’t trust me with a choice, how can you trust me with a baby?”


40 posted on 08/13/2008 5:47:31 AM PDT by Broker (Grandpa Petti Bones wants to know.)
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