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Will Ted Kennedy Pay His "Fair Share?"
08/13/08 | Reaganesque

Posted on 08/13/2008 9:25:07 AM PDT by Reaganesque

First of all, let me say that I do not wish Ted Kennedy dead. I am not a fan of his but no one should wish such a thing upon another, regardless of past history.

That said, Mr. Kennedy's recent diagnosis of a brain tumor brings up all sorts of political questions, many of which have been discussed here. One such issue is/will be will the Kennedy family pay estate taxes on Uncle Ted's fortune when he passes on? Based on recent family history, the chances of that happening aren't good.

In 1994, during Ted's Senate run against Mitt Romney, his mother Rose passed away. Despite the fact that Rose had never left the Kennedy Compound in Hyannis, MA in the 10 years prior to her death, the Kennedy family had her state residency moved from MA that had an estate tax to FL which did not. Despite building a career of demanding that the rich pay their fair share, Mr. Kennedy and his family, chose not to pay theirs when it was their turn.

Now, understand, what they did was legal and using tax laws to your benefit is the smart thing to do. However, when one makes a career of telling other people to pay certain taxes but then refuses to do so personally, that is hypocrisy. We shall see if the Kennedy family will walk the walk when Uncle Ted passes on or, as they have in the past, will they pass on their chance to practice what Senator Kennedy preached?


TOPICS: US: Massachusetts; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 110th; fairness; hypocrisy; kennedy; taxes; tedkennedy
Consistency has never been the hallmark of the modern Liberal. Mr. Kennedy's life and that of his family are spotty at best when it comes to living up to their own rhetoric. And then there's eco-savior Al Gore and his energy hogging mansion and new house boat. So, it should be interesting to watch and see if, when the time comes, the Kennedy family pulls what the pulled in 1994 (Not to mention how they structure the family fortune currently) and find a way not to pay estate taxes on Senator Kennedy's fortune. Taxes are, after all, for the little people to pay, not rich Democrats.
1 posted on 08/13/2008 9:25:07 AM PDT by Reaganesque
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To: Reaganesque
Despite the fact that Rose had never left the Kennedy Compound in Hyannis, MA in the 10 years prior to her death, the Kennedy family had her state residency moved from MA that had an estate tax to FL which did not. Despite building a career of demanding that the rich pay their fair share, Mr. Kennedy and his family, chose not to pay theirs when it was their turn.

I'm shocked!

2 posted on 08/13/2008 9:27:26 AM PDT by T. Buzzard Trueblood (If we are the ones we've been waiting for, why do we need Obama?)
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To: Reaganesque

IIRC, there is a Kennedy trust [not established by the pantaloonless Senator from Hyannisport].


3 posted on 08/13/2008 9:28:11 AM PDT by saveliberty (Prayer blizzard for the Snow family. Tony was a blessing unto us all. We will miss him.)
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To: Reaganesque

The Kennedy family has a long uninterrupted history of, corruption, ineptness, moral turpitude, and inability to control skis or motorized vehicles. So what’s new? They alone are a good reason to bomb Ireland (kidding, of course - about the bombing)


4 posted on 08/13/2008 9:33:22 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Reaganesque
The elitist always use the laws that they created to lower or delete the taxes due from their estates. I am not a fan of the estate tax but these guys, dems and repubs all use the system to work around taxes they place on the rest of use little people. My suggestion, as a Financial Planner, make sure you know all the laws and loopholes. Especially if you have an estate. Because if obamunism comes to be, all estates large and small will be in trouble, should death come.
5 posted on 08/13/2008 9:34:04 AM PDT by onlylewis (libs want a two class system, one rich one poor)
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To: Reaganesque

Remember Ted’s reaction to the proposal for a wind farm off Cape Cod. He was unceasing in his condemnation of the plan that would supply cheap power, but despoil the vistas and take away from those who sail in those waters, which are visited mostly by the wealthy liberal elites. Better to place the farm off Jones Beach on Long Island. Those views are scene mostly by the families of the middle class seeking some fun in the sun. One need not worry about such people’s aesthetics.


6 posted on 08/13/2008 9:36:13 AM PDT by xkaydet65 (Freedom is purchased not with gold, but with steel.)
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To: Reaganesque

Both richest men in america have also advocated the government retain the death tax while taking care to make sure their estates will never be subjected to estate taxes. Both men continue to divest themselves of their massive wealth through bequests to the Gates Foundation (tax exempt) Trust. But they are portrayed as being generous and selfless in their advocacy.


7 posted on 08/13/2008 9:36:54 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: saveliberty

You mean he doesn’t have a trust set up giving everything to Mary Jo’s family?


8 posted on 08/13/2008 9:43:43 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: Reaganesque

From some deep past discussion on FR (I think) that Teddy has moved all of his wealth off shore to avoid paying Taxes. Maybe someone with a better memory than mine can shed some light on this issue. Oh, and I can voice negative comments about this tub of hypocrisy. I also have Cancer Stage 4 and I am also battling it ala Tony Snow mode. I hope with class and style.

Kennedy is a worthless piece of Carbon Dioxide emitting trash. As soon as he is planted, we should build some off shore windmills and name them after him with a tongue in cheek.


9 posted on 08/13/2008 9:49:42 AM PDT by noname07718 (Freedom is never more than one generation from extinction-Ronald Reagan 1993)
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To: xkaydet65
Will Ted pay his fair share?

(and other questions that beg an answer)
Could Mike Tyson manage a hedge fund?
Can Bill Clinton tell the truth?
Can Jimmy Carter hope to have a legacy of competency?
Would you trust O.J. to date your daughter?
Is Jesse Jackson a "true man of the cloth"?
Would Dick Durbin share a foxhole with a combat Marine?
Could Chuckie Shumer author a book on ethics?
Is Rev. Jerimiah Wright sane?
Is John Kerry a legitimate war hero
Is Bill Ayers a patriotic American?
Is Barak Obama ready to be president?

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10 posted on 08/13/2008 9:51:41 AM PDT by meandog (please pray for future President McCain, day minus 143 and counting)))
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To: noname07718

Sorry to hear about your battle with cancer...may God be with you. Pax vobiscum.


11 posted on 08/13/2008 9:56:27 AM PDT by meandog (please pray for future President McCain, day minus 143 and counting)))
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

I feel very sorry for the Kopechnes.


12 posted on 08/13/2008 10:03:18 AM PDT by saveliberty (Prayer blizzard for the Snow family. Tony was a blessing unto us all. We will miss him.)
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To: saveliberty

Dynasty trust established by Joe Kennedy back in the day. No Kennedy will EVER pay Federal Estate Taxes on that fortune. They may squander it all away, but no taxes.


13 posted on 08/13/2008 10:22:32 AM PDT by shawnlaw (Things is things and parts is parts...)
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To: shawnlaw

Taxes for thee but not for me.


14 posted on 08/13/2008 10:34:15 AM PDT by saveliberty (Prayer blizzard for the Snow family. Tony was a blessing unto us all. We will miss him.)
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To: meandog

In February of 2003, I was diagnosed with Stage 4 Liver Cancer. The upper end of the life expectancy was supposed to be 2 years and three months. Still kicking and screaming. I just started a new job at age 64. God isn’t ready for me yet. He has some more work for me to do right here. I’ve been called on by some Cancer organizations to counsel some new cancer patients and give them a positive frame of reference as being an example that the numbers are sometime wrong.

After three tours in Viet Nam and married to the same wonderful woman for 37 years; I’m one tough bastard.


15 posted on 08/13/2008 11:07:44 AM PDT by noname07718 (Freedom is never more than one generation from extinction-Ronald Reagan 1993)
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To: noname07718
"I also have Cancer Stage 4 and I am also battling it ala Tony Snow mode."

Best of well-wishes and prayers are with you.

Ditto here. I am stage #4 also. Beginning of June, I was given 6-months to a year and a second opinion of 3-6 months. I hope the first one is correct.

Thanks to our great health care system, neither I nor my wife, kids or rest of family have to worry about estate taxes after my death.

You will have a name when we meet soon!:)

16 posted on 08/13/2008 11:58:31 AM PDT by moonman
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