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Video- FReeper Interview Joseph Shahda translator of captured Iraqi documents: Part 1 and part 2
Townhall ^
| 8/17/08
| Chris Donohoe
Posted on 08/17/2008 9:52:21 AM PDT by april15Bendovr
"This is an interview conducted by freeper Chris Donohoe (April15bendovr) with freeper Joseph Shahda (jveritas) about Saddam regime WMD programs and their relations to terrorism based on his translations of some captured Saddam regime documents. Also he talks about some Al Qaeda-captured documents.
On the WMD issue, Joseph Shahda reveals that the documents clearly indicate that the Saddam regime opted to build the precursors required to make chemical weapons rather than the final chemical weapons product. They did this for two reasons. First because these precursors are dual-use materials and Saddam could always claim that they are used for civilian industries and not chemical weapons. Second the precursors have much longer shelf than the final product and when required it would only take the Saddam regime a few weeks and in some cases few days to assemble final chemical weapons products.
On the terrorism issue the documents prove that Saddam had much more relation with terrorism than previously thought. For example, some documents show that the Saddam regime had trained foreign terrorists from 1999-2003 and at the beginning of the war Saddam ordered his generals to treat the foreign terrorists as if they were special forces in the Iraqi army and to give them the same wages and benefits.
Also in the video Joseph Shahda talks about an authentic Al Qaeda document written by a top Al Qaeda leader called Saif Al Adel, which proves once and for all that Al Qaeda terrorists led by Zarqawi came to Iraq before the war and established terrorist cells not only in Northern Iraq but also in the Sunni areas in central Iraq that are totally controlled by Saddam. This clearly indicates that although we do not have proof of an operational relationship between the Saddam regime and Al Qaeda, it is an absolute fact that Saddam's regime turned a blind eye on the Al Qaeda presence in Iraq, operating under the old saying The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 296; documents; islam; jveritas; mohammedanism; prewardocs; prewarintelligence; saddam; wmd
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To: Calpernia
Some of the documents were transactions from one site to another over many years.
The counter intelligence they are talking about would be communications transactions in order for us to intentionally pick up the communication and throw us off. Those faults documents could still be in with the real information in order to counter our intel.
My question is how can MSN throw out all this very important information over a few documents that could be fake?
Now looking in hind site we should fairly easily figure out which are the fake documents and what are not.
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posted on
08/17/2008 10:57:31 AM PDT
by
Steve Van Doorn
(*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
To: Steve Van Doorn
I doubt very much that Saddam regime intentionally planned fake documents so they can throw us off. I am not aware that the Pentagon released such a statement.
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posted on
08/17/2008 10:58:59 AM PDT
by
jveritas
(God Bless President Bush and our brave troops)
To: jveritas
Intelligence officials had serious concerns about turning loose an army of amateurs on a warehouse full of raw documents that include hearsay, disinformation and forgery. Mr. Negroponte's office attached a disclaimer to the documents, only a few of which have been translated into English, saying the government did not vouch for their authenticity. -
NYT
this statement is the Main Stream News argument why they will not get this information out. I think it is important for us to address.
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posted on
08/17/2008 11:18:44 AM PDT
by
Steve Van Doorn
(*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
To: Steve Van Doorn
They are wrong. The documents that I translated regarding Saddam regime WMD programs and his relation to terrorism are absolutely authentic and are not meant to be used for deception by Saddam regime. I am absolutely sure of that and I challenge any expert to prove that they are fake or meant for deception by Saddam regime.
Negropante was the major cause in shutting down the documents website. He was against publishing it from the beginning but he was forced to do so by President Bush. The reason for the document website shut down was because the IAEA complained that an Iraqi document containing sensitive information about Saddam nuclear program was published so Negropante took this complaint as an excuse to shut down the documents website. It was a huge mistake.
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posted on
08/17/2008 11:35:19 AM PDT
by
jveritas
(God Bless President Bush and our brave troops)
To: jveritas
Thank you. that is the answer i was looking for.
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posted on
08/17/2008 11:51:59 AM PDT
by
Steve Van Doorn
(*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
To: jveritas
Thanks for you help at a time when we are critically short of translators. For every brave soldier carrying a rifle in the field, there are hundreds of others providing critical logistical support. We each bring our best to support the effort.
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posted on
08/17/2008 12:21:45 PM PDT
by
Myrddin
To: Jarhead2844; USMCWriter; 1stbn27; 2111USMC; 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; 68 grunt; A.A. Cunningham; ASOC; ...
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posted on
08/17/2008 12:32:55 PM PDT
by
freema
(MarineNiece,Daughter,Wife,Friend,Sister,Friend,Aunt,Friend,Mother,Friend,Cousin, FRiend)
To: april15Bendovr; jveritas
Outstanding work guys. Keep safe j.
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posted on
08/17/2008 1:42:31 PM PDT
by
Eagles6
( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck)
To: Steve Van Doorn
I would doubt that West Points Combating Terrorism Center would risk their reputation either.
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posted on
08/17/2008 1:44:52 PM PDT
by
april15Bendovr
(Free Republic & Ron Paul Cult = oxymoron)
To: Eagles6
Thank you Eagle6, I will be safe.
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posted on
08/17/2008 2:18:06 PM PDT
by
jveritas
(God Bless President Bush and our brave troops)
To: Calpernia
Doesnt that mean that it was someone on our inside that planted fake documents?<<<
I would say yes.
Any liberal would do so, can’t have President Bush proved to be right.
My thanks to JVeritas for bringing them to life.
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posted on
08/17/2008 2:25:01 PM PDT
by
nw_arizona_granny
( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
To: elhombrelibre
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posted on
08/17/2008 2:52:29 PM PDT
by
april15Bendovr
(Free Republic & Ron Paul Cult = oxymoron)
To: freema
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posted on
08/17/2008 2:58:30 PM PDT
by
RaceBannon
(Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
To: jveritas
I remember the documents being yanked, and grateful that you were able to secure many of them before hand, but I don't think I ever knew who was directly responsible for shelving them.
These videos are a wonderful surprise, Thank You.
I hope there will be more as you meticulously disassemble the cloak of secrecy and deception foisted upon us by those who will sacrifice our national security for vanity and power.
Be safe, FRiend
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posted on
08/17/2008 4:10:52 PM PDT
by
4woodenboats
( MEJA is FUBAR DefendOurMarines.org DefendOurTroops.org)
To: 4woodenboats
Thank you very much. I have saved over 1700 Iraqi documents before the unfortunate shut down of the documents website.
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posted on
08/17/2008 5:44:44 PM PDT
by
jveritas
(God Bless President Bush and our brave troops)
To: april15Bendovr; jveritas
Thank you both for this interview and links to it.
To: jveritas; freema
It is really strange that Negropante would have been so instrumental in having the database taken off line to the public. The article concerning the bomb making plans was no reason to halt access. If anything the Bush Administration should have told the NYSlimes to go stuff it. They complained it was a breach of national security which is pure bull shit, and the administration caved in. I think about this quite a bit. Same as shutting down the Able Danger Project.
Something is not right in Washington. I continue to smell dead rats floating around some putrid creek.
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posted on
08/17/2008 7:30:08 PM PDT
by
Marine_Uncle
(Duncan Hunter was our best choice...Now we are left with a bunch of idiots.)
To: mjaneangels@aolcom
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posted on
08/17/2008 7:35:21 PM PDT
by
jveritas
(God Bless President Bush and our brave troops)
To: Marine_Uncle
Agree 100%. The shut down of the website came few days before the 2006 Congressional elections so the supporters of the documents project in the administration probably did not want to make a big deal about it at that point.
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posted on
08/17/2008 7:37:44 PM PDT
by
jveritas
(God Bless President Bush and our brave troops)
To: jveritas
The documents that I translated regarding Saddam regime WMD programs and his relation to terrorism are absolutely authentic
Special thanks from the free and the hope to be free world too.
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posted on
08/17/2008 7:43:17 PM PDT
by
Son House
( [ ]Obama=>LoseBothWars/Raise Taxes [X]McCain=>WinBothWars/CutPorkBarrelSpending)
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