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1 posted on 08/17/2008 8:48:14 PM PDT by kristinn
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To: kristinn

Bds among DC officials is aconstant threat to us and free people everywhere.


2 posted on 08/17/2008 8:54:55 PM PDT by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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Turkey will come around, they can’t do anything else. The best selling novel in Turkey last year was about war between the US and Turkey.


3 posted on 08/17/2008 9:06:20 PM PDT by FFranco
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The Turks control the Dardanelles, and, they also prevented our entry from the north into Iraq, which complicated the campaign against Saddam initially. The Turks are unlikely to be helpful in a way satisfactory for the US in this case also.


4 posted on 08/17/2008 9:10:27 PM PDT by givemELL
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To: kristinn
Nameless source? In McClatchy? The possibility of this being accurate is about the same as Rathergate being true.
5 posted on 08/17/2008 9:12:10 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.iraqvetsforcongress.com ---- Get involved, make a difference.)
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Air Force Completes First Georgia Humanitarian Aid Mission
By Air Force Capt. Erin Dorrance
Special to American Forces Press Service

TBILISI, Georgia, Aug. 14, 2008 – A U.S. Air Force C-17 Globemaster III transport jet departed Ramstein Air Base, Germany, and landed at Tbilisi International Airport here yesterday, delivering $1 million in humanitarian aid to reduce the suffering of the people of the former Soviet republic of Georgia.

Air Force Staff Sgt. Chris Broegemueller, assigned to the 86th Airlift Wing’s Contingency Response Group at Sembach Air Base, Germany, helps to push out the first of 16 pallets aboard a U.S. Air Force C-17 Globemaster III in Tbilisi, Georgia, Aug. 13, 2008. The humanitarian assistance delivery consisted of $1 million in U.S.-donated medical supplies, blankets, sleeping bags and bed sheets for the people of Georgia. The delivery was a joint service effort between airmen representing both U.S. Air Forces in Europe and Air Mobility Command, as well as U.S. Army Europe soldiers. Defense Dept. photo by Air Force Master Sgt. Scott Wagers
(Click photo for screen-resolution image);high-resolution image available.

The joint military effort supported coordination by the U.S. State Department and U.S. Agency for International Development with Georgian officials. The Defense Department was directed to support the effort with a joint U.S. military operation that launched with the delivery of 16 pallets of medicine, clothing, sleeping bags, cots and other essential items.

“Our sole goal is to safely and rapidly deliver humanitarian aid to Georgia to alleviate human suffering and save lives,” said Col. Benjamin Everson, chief of U.S. Army Europe’s International Operations Division. “We will continue to support this humanitarian mission until the host nation and the U.S. State Department determine that it is no longer needed.”

The C-17, based out of McGuire Air Force Base, N.J., was operated by a 3rd Airlift Squadron crew from Dover Air Force Base, Del., and landed amid cheers and smiles from local nationals on the airfield.

One pallet after another was quickly offloaded from the aircraft. The Georgians on the ground continually thanked the U.S. military team for its efforts.

“We are in dire need of these supplies,” said Sergey Khomchenko, Counterpart Community and Humanitarian Assistance Program director. “Thank you so much for helping us in this great time of need. These supplies will surely save lives.”

U.S. officials, including a U.S. European Command survey team, continue to coordinate closely with the Georgian government to determine what aid is most needed within the country and how best to distribute it.

Navy Lt. Cmdr. Corey Barker, a U.S. European Command spokesman, praised the joint humanitarian relief effort.

“We are very pleased that the joint military community — EuCom, U.S. Army Europe and U.S. Air Forces in Europe — have the opportunity to provide logistical support to bring these humanitarian supplies here,” he said. “EuCom forces will remain ready to support as further needs are assessed.”

(Air Force Capt. Erin Dorrance serves in the 86th Airlift Wing Public Affairs Office.)

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International media representatives photograph the first of 16 pallets containing $1 million in U.S.-donated medical supplies, blankets, sleeping bags and bed sheets for the people of Georgia, Aug. 13, 2008, in the Georgian capital of Tbilisi. The delivery was a joint-service effort between airmen representing U.S. Air Forces in Europe and Air Mobility Command, as well as U.S. Army Europe soldiers. Defense Dept. photo by Air Force Master Sgt. Scott Wagers

While en route to Tbilisi, Georgia, from Ramstein Air Base, Germany, Army, Navy and Air Force officers discuss details of the joint humanitarian assistance delivery, Aug. 13, 2008. The delivery consisted of $1 million in U.S.-donated medical supplies, blankets, sleeping bags and bed sheets for the people of the Republic of Georgia. Defense Dept. photo by Air Force Master Sgt. Scott Wagers


6 posted on 08/17/2008 9:16:38 PM PDT by roses of sharon (SAVE YOUR GAS RECIEPTS, SEND TO PELOSI!)
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I was sorting through some old magazines and came across an old American Legion magazine from March 2008, with an article by Alan Dowd, entitled, “A Cold Peace.” I can’t find a link, but all I can say is that this man should have been listened to a long time ago. I’ll try to type the last few paragraphs.

Bad Old Days. To strengthen his hand along Russia’s southern borderlands, Putin forged the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO), With a membership that includes China, Russia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and Uzebekistan - with Iran as an observer - the SCO could become a counterweight to the U.S. alliance system. If Iran joins the organization as a full-fledged member, as the East Asia Institute’s David Wall told “The Washington Times, it would be “an OPEC with bombs.”

Russia is certainly strengthening its ties to Iran. Recent transactions include components for a nuclear reactor in Bushehr and sophisticated air-defense systems. More over, during his ill-timed visit to Iran last year, Putin woarned that “no Caspian nation should offer its territory to third powers for use of force or military aggression against any Caspian state.” The statement was more than a thinly veiled threat to Washington and its Middle Eastern allies.

Rusia used the same argument and the SCO to pressure Uzbekistan to cut military ties with Washington.


7 posted on 08/17/2008 9:16:59 PM PDT by Eva (CHANGE- the post modern euphemism for Marxist revolution.)
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Just an FYI ~~~

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http://www.eucom.mil/english/FullStory.asp?art=1792

DoD News Briefing with U.S. EUCOM Director of Logistics and Security Assitance

Release Date: Aug 16, 2008

Transcript

LT. COL. JOHN DORRIAN (spokesman, U.S. European Command): This is Lt. Colonel John Dorrian, calling from U.S. European Command. I want to thank you all for joining us today.

I have with me here today U.S. Navy Rear Admiral Steven J. Romano.

He is here to discuss the U.S. military role in providing logistical support and humanitarian assistance that is being taken into Georgia. Admiral Romano is U.S. European Command’s director of Logistics and Security Assistance.

Rear Admiral Romano is overseeing EUCOM’s efforts to move humanitarian relief supplies into Georgia.

Prior to his assignment at EUCOM, the admiral worked at the Pentagon, at the Joint Chiefs of Staff National Military Command Center, where he helped coordinate the Department of Defense’s logistical efforts — (inaudible) — after the Pakistan earthquake and Hurricane Katrina.

*snip*

LT. COL. DORRIAN: Okay. AFP’s Jim Mannion.

Q This is Jim Mannion. I know that the assessment team has only been on the ground for about 24 hours, but I wonder if you could talk about what the scope of the requirements is going to be in the weeks ahead in terms of what the Georgians’ needs are.

And also if you could be more — a little bit more specific about the supplies that are going to be brought in from the Mediterranean, I think you said. Will that be on pre-positioned ships or on U.S. naval vessels, if you could provide some details there? Thank you.

RDML ROMANO: Yes, sir. With regard to the scope of the operation, we anticipate that the scope of the operation in terms of the need will grow, and Open Press is reporting that, as well as the indications that we’re getting from the government of Georgia and USAID and embassy personnel on the ground.

As the result of that, we are flexing the — our capability to provide additional relief supplies and to increase airlift using strategic airlift and United States strategic — United States Transportation Command aircraft.

So we expect the scope to increase. We expect the need to grow, and we are positioning and planning to respond to that growth using strategic airlift and increased capacity with respect to relief supplies.

***In terms of naval forces, the naval forces in our naval component are planning currently to deliver relief supplies via the maritime domain, as well as an option to use pre-positioned assets in the Mediterranean.***


8 posted on 08/17/2008 9:17:08 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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What was the “other” flub and how does this make President Bush a liar?

These people so deserve to lose their jobs at McKlunky.

They can't go bankrupt fast enough.

10 posted on 08/17/2008 9:19:15 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
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This is unconscionable !!

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“The president was writing checks to the Georgians without knowing what he had in the bank,” said a senior administration official.

“The president got out in front of the planning when he talked publicly about using naval forces,” said a second senior administration official. “

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What the h*ll????


11 posted on 08/17/2008 9:19:22 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: kristinn

Turkey does not control the Bosporus and Dardanelles; they are an international waterway. Russian warships go through those straits all the time, without asking any permission whatever.

The article is in error.


12 posted on 08/17/2008 9:32:31 PM PDT by tvdog12345
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“During peacetime, light surface warships of all powers may transit the straits after giving prior notice to Turkey as required by the Convention. Turkey may waive the notification requirement if the warships are transiting for the purpose of providing humanitarian assistance.”


13 posted on 08/17/2008 9:33:28 PM PDT by endthematrix (Congress, Get Off Your Gas, And Drill!)
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To: kristinn
President Dubya.

You do not need the approval of other parties to offer aid.

You took the humane and responsible steps.

Good on you, sir!

17 posted on 08/17/2008 9:39:04 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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In GWII I think we learned a valuable lesson about waiting on permission from the Turks and dammit, GWB would fight his way in now if necessary.


29 posted on 08/17/2008 10:14:21 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (College kid: "Do you have a minute for Obama?" NVA: "Not now or ever.")
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President Bush Wednesday promised that U.S. naval forces would deliver humanitarian aid to war-torn Georgia before his administration had received approval from Turkey, which controls naval access to the Black Sea, or the Pentagon had planned a seaborne operation, U.S. officials said Thursday....

... The U.S. officials requested anonymity because they weren't authorized to speak publicly, because the issue is diplomatically sensitive or because the administration takes a dim view of officials who reveal its internal deliberations.

On the other hand, some U.S. officials in speaking to the press without authorization are violating assorted rules and regs in order to interfere in US foreign policy in pursuit of their own agendas, even knowing that diplomacy often as not must consist of considerable amounts of bluffing that may be and probably is "above their pay grade."

33 posted on 08/17/2008 11:28:44 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: kristinn

Wasn’t there a Deep Purple tune about this?

This tune is going over in my mind..


35 posted on 08/17/2008 11:48:47 PM PDT by rahbert
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