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ABC News ^ | 8/18/08 | Jack Tapper

Posted on 08/18/2008 12:28:43 PM PDT by mngran2

UPDATE: ABC News' Ron Claiborne, traveling with the McCain campaign, reports that McCain senior adviser Charlie Black would not say whether people around McCain while he was en route to Rick Warren's forum had access to blackberries and cell phones from which they could have tipped off Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., about the questions.

"There's no reason we would do that," was all Black would say, though quite obviously there is a reason.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.abcnews.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: charlieblack; cone; coneofsilence; desperatedems; jaketapper; mccain; nobama08; obama; propagandawingofdnc; rickwarren; saddleback; warren
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1 posted on 08/18/2008 12:28:44 PM PDT by mngran2
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To: mngran2

Obama lost. That’s the story here.


2 posted on 08/18/2008 12:29:35 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: mngran2
The drive-by’s are scrambling to give The Chosen One cover for losing this debate.
3 posted on 08/18/2008 12:29:54 PM PDT by colorado tanker (Number nine, number nine, number nine . . .)
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To: mngran2
Questioning McCain's Integrity is going to be a major mistake by the left. get the popcorn ready.
4 posted on 08/18/2008 12:32:44 PM PDT by txroadkill (Liberals believe that the only oppressed people in Cuba are the terrorist in GitMo)
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To: colorado tanker

They might as well get some practice in, they’re gonna need it.


5 posted on 08/18/2008 12:32:47 PM PDT by Snurple
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To: rogue yam

The additional story is that Obama is a sore loser and instead of accepting the fact that McCain wiped the floor with him, he is whining instead.


6 posted on 08/18/2008 12:32:51 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: mngran2

Liberal playbook 101, if confronted with defeat let loose the dogs of injustice and cry conspiracy!!! For example, liberals never lose elections, they are cheated by voting machines or police with dogs or whatever the liberal imagination can conjer.


7 posted on 08/18/2008 12:33:26 PM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: mngran2
though quite obviously there is a reason

There's only a reason if you have no core beliefs and no real opinions and are an empty suit and can't talk without a script. This is why all the left finds it so easy to say that McCain must have cheated. Because *they would have*.
8 posted on 08/18/2008 12:34:07 PM PDT by visualops (artlife.us -nature photography desktop wallpapers)
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To: mngran2
Face it, libs: except for a certain specialized sort of genius for furthering his career, Obama is as dumb as a box of rocks.

Related thread Turns Out Obama Had More Prior Knowledge of Warren Questions Than Did McCain - Byron York

9 posted on 08/18/2008 12:35:19 PM PDT by cake_crumb (Terrorist organizations worldwide endorse Obama.)
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To: colorado tanker

Actually, they’re cooperating with Team Obama to move the “Obama strongly supports infanticide” story off page one. That’s what’s really behind this.


10 posted on 08/18/2008 12:35:26 PM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: colorado tanker

Maybe it’s just me and I’m too sensitive, but.......

It seems like this is part of a pattern, where the Obama campaign complains about this or that, and says that something is unfair. Here it seems we’re hearing more stories about how the process of the Rick Warren meetings somehow was unfair to Obama, rather than hearing more about the content of what Obama said.


11 posted on 08/18/2008 12:35:26 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: mngran2

They really need to give this a rest. It is pathetic. What a bunch of whining losers. Now that it has come out that Obama actaully had one more question in advance than McCain did, I imagine this cry of “cheating” will probably quickly go away.

Talk radio should just keep replaying the soundbite of Obama saying, “I actually cheated on this one” over and over again.


12 posted on 08/18/2008 12:36:15 PM PDT by Shelayne (After seeing Obama without teleprompter, I think the tingle on Chris Matthews' leg is probably pee.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Yeah, McCain and his blackberry made Obama sound like a stuttering fool more interested in covering up his core values than answering questions.


13 posted on 08/18/2008 12:36:24 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: rogue yam
Obama lost. That’s the story here.

That's why the MSM is now pushing the meme that the 'real' story is not that lil' Barry lost, but McCain must have cheated! He broke the cone of silence! He must have had a shoe phone!


14 posted on 08/18/2008 12:36:59 PM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: mngran2
This McCain camp response needs to get repeated and repeated:

Calling the charge a "blatant falsehood" Davis said "1.) There's not one shred of evidence that it's true; 2.) In his official correspondence to both campaigns, Pastor Rick Warren provided both candidates with information regarding the topic areas to be covered, which Barack Obama acknowledged during the forum when asked about Pastor Warren's idea of an emergency plan for orphans and Obama said, 'I cheated a little bit. I actually looked at this idea ahead of time, and I think it is a great idea;' 3.) John McCain actually requested that he and Barack Obama do the forum together on stage at the same time, making these kinds of after-the-fact complaints moot."

Obama is coming off as a crybaby, whining and screaming "cheater!" in order to hide his own shortcomings and lack of connection to average folks.

15 posted on 08/18/2008 12:37:05 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day ("Above all else, let us think straight." -- Melvin J. Ballard)
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To: mngran2

Mr. McCain answered his questions straightforwardly; Mr. Obama did not. He never does.

He lost.


16 posted on 08/18/2008 12:38:16 PM PDT by RexBeach
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To: mngran2
What the left is trying to deflect is the fact that even if McCain knew the questions and had the answers, Obama still performed well below their expectations. So sad.
17 posted on 08/18/2008 12:38:48 PM PDT by Melinda
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To: mngran2
I can understand where the In The Tank Media is coming from.

Their young inexperienced ninny guy got his crock cleaned by an old fart and it just has to stick in their craw.

However, all their gnashing of teeth and wearing of race card sack cloth and ashes will take away from Obamas major gaff “Above My Pay Grade” comment.

People with common sense will see through the medias In The Tank for Obama moments that this guy is a novice when it comes to his core values.

Shame on you Obama media, ABC, NBC, PMSNBC, CNN and others.

18 posted on 08/18/2008 12:40:46 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (OBAMA aka Post Turtle the Forest Gump of American Politics ABORTION -Liberal Child Abuse.)
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To: mngran2

Obama is tripping over his own...

This thing is percolating nicely. Let it hit the news tonight, then hit back with a LOUD townhall meeting challenge tomorrow. Any time, any place.


19 posted on 08/18/2008 12:41:38 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (My friends, I am voting against Obama because he is white.)
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To: mngran2

Yeah, hi, I'll take a cone of silence please...thanks"

"rmmmmf uummmfpthf hremmmthsppph"

20 posted on 08/18/2008 12:42:14 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (This election is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if McCain wins, we're still retarded.)
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To: mngran2

Uh media, the questions weren’t that hard. It’s just that Obama was busy trying to hide his left wing positions. McCain didn’t have that problem.


21 posted on 08/18/2008 12:42:24 PM PDT by Williams
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To: mngran2
Do they really think it's so surprising that a man who has been in politics for decades would be able to formulate articulate answers regarding his own stances and beliefs? It should be more surprising that such an "articulate" media-made candidate as Obama is, wouldn't be able to do so.
22 posted on 08/18/2008 12:42:24 PM PDT by mrsmel
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To: Dilbert San Diego
content of what Obama said.

You mean his trying to give an answer that doesn't enrage his base yet also try's to appeal to rational people.

23 posted on 08/18/2008 12:42:38 PM PDT by rocksblues (Folks we are in trouble, "Mark Levin" 03/26/08)
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To: mngran2
Why would anyone think that McCain's hearing the questions before he went on caused Obama to be stupid?

Obama's pratfall was his own doing.

McCain didn't know what the questions would be. He didn't need to; he knew the answers.

24 posted on 08/18/2008 12:42:38 PM PDT by Octar
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To: rogue yam

You could ask the Messiah those SAME questions today and get the same pathetic,meaningless (er, nuanced) answers.

The toughest thing in his mind that he has had to do is oppose the Iraq War when he was a member of the ILLINOIS STATE SENATE. No argument there.

The hardest time he did go against his party WAS when he tried to take away their free meals. No argument there.

When does a fetus get rights? That is ABOVE his pay grade, as his Senate job and his STATE SENATE job. I won’t argue with him there either.

How would he deal will EVIL in the world? Confront it, for the US is even evil sometimes. Can’t say that wasn’t a splendid answer either.

In almost every question Obama would give the same answer again, because he is the empty suit we all know he is. The only thing he is full of is himself. He IS ‘the one HE has been waiting for’. The MSM loves to say he is thoughtful and nuanced. The ums, ers, ahhs, and stumbling that he exhibits when you take his teleprompter away are something that can only be covered up for so long. Acting as if he speaks that way because of his thoughful answers is playing the public for fools. Even the Kos kids and DUmmies are starting to see that Obamamessiah is not ready for prime time.


25 posted on 08/18/2008 12:43:16 PM PDT by milwguy (........)
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To: Jeff Chandler
Obama is tripping over his own...

This thing is percolating nicely. Let it hit the news tonight, then hit back with a LOUD townhall meeting challenge tomorrow. Any time, any place.

Follow up on Wednesday with ads showcasing the reason why Obama will not meet McCain in the town hall meetings: his stumbling and bumbling when not reading his lines.

26 posted on 08/18/2008 12:44:19 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (My friends, I am voting against Obama because he is white.)
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To: mngran2
Pretty absurd they are investigating whether McCain's entire campaign organization had any cell phones on them. Duh.

I submit 99% or Freepers could have answered every one of those questions without a cheat sheet, or a Harvard education.

27 posted on 08/18/2008 12:45:17 PM PDT by Williams
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To: mngran2

even if McCain did know the questions, that doesn’t explain why obama couldn’t answer them...


28 posted on 08/18/2008 12:45:52 PM PDT by edzo4
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To: mngran2
The more I think about it, the more I think McCain has Obama by the throat. He has enough material from the interviews to hit him hard and fatally cripple his campaign. He can even preempt Obama's convention bump by ridiculing it beforehand, tying it into the "Obama is only good when scripted" meme.

This is like watching Clinton eviscerate Dole's campaign.

Finish him off, John. Strike NOW!

29 posted on 08/18/2008 12:48:50 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (My friends, I am voting against Obama because he is white.)
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To: MrB

I thought I read several snide pieces saying McCain is technologically illiterate...so how the hell would he know how to use a blackberry?


30 posted on 08/18/2008 12:49:48 PM PDT by cake_crumb (Terrorist organizations worldwide endorse Obama.)
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To: cake_crumb

I don’t believe that’s much of an argument, as he could have easily had an aid cue him.

What’s more revealing here is that McCain’s camp asked “why would he do that?”

while it was all too obvious to the leftist that, had it been them in that position, they would have cheated.


31 posted on 08/18/2008 12:51:42 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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Call the WAAAAAHmbulance!!!!!!
32 posted on 08/18/2008 12:52:18 PM PDT by mkjessup ("People are going to begin to wonder if Russia can be trusted!" - SecState Maddy Rice, well DUH!!!!)
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To: 6SJ7

The Obama campaign is running interference to divert public attention away from the fact that answering the question of whether killing babies is immoral is “above his pay grade”. He’s also unable to explain why he’s in favor of murdering babies who survive a partial birth abortion.


33 posted on 08/18/2008 12:52:51 PM PDT by cake_crumb (Terrorist organizations worldwide endorse Obama.)
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To: Williams
You are right. The questions asked were pretty standard questions. Obama should not have been surprised by any of them.

Well, on second thought, maybe I should take that back. Obama is so used to being tossed easy Nerf ball questions by the fawning MSM that I suppose it really isn't fair that he should be expected to respond to one that is simply “standard”.

34 posted on 08/18/2008 12:57:33 PM PDT by Nevadan
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To: rogue yam

Warren was throwing a huge sloppy kiss to Obammy’s arse except......


35 posted on 08/18/2008 12:58:43 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (I will not vote for Obama not because he is black, but because he is RED)
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To: OKIEDOC
an old fart

I believe the expression is "wrinkly, white-haired dude."

36 posted on 08/18/2008 12:58:53 PM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: Nevadan

Obama really wasn’t stumped he was trying to be slick, only the Supreme Court question flushed him out. His court would be 9 Ruth Bader Ginzburgs. Case closed.


37 posted on 08/18/2008 1:01:23 PM PDT by Williams
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To: mngran2
Nothing that I've seen so far from the McCain campaign touches on whether or not any aides with McCain were getting reports on their Blackberries or cell phones on the questions Obama was getting and then sharing them with McCain.

Nothing I have seen so far touches on whether or not McCain was getting information beamed into his brain by Space Aliens from Beyond the Moon!

If McCain cheated, there would be a conspiracy. McCain has said he played it straight, and everybody involved backs him up on that. Could he have cheated? Of course he could. Proving that it was possible nothing.

38 posted on 08/18/2008 1:02:16 PM PDT by gridlock (Barack Obama is the Sanjaya Malakar of American Politics...)
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To: colorado tanker

check out the comments at the bottom of the article...loads of excuses by Obama fans.


39 posted on 08/18/2008 1:02:21 PM PDT by hoe_cake ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself." MTwain)
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To: mngran2

This is complete desperation on behalf of the MSM and I can hardly wait for Olbermann’s ranting later tonight... And to think, these fools are calling Hillary a sore loser.

McCain kick’s butt in one debate and now they’re scared to death that Barry isn’t going to be up to snuff when it comes to the real debates. Boo Hoo... How bad will these fools look when Barry loses in November? I suppose they’ll come up with some foolish reason for Barry’s loss, that of course, will have absolutely nothing to do with Barry.


40 posted on 08/18/2008 1:02:26 PM PDT by jerod (They were pro-abortion, for gun control & wanted a cleaner environment at all cost - The NAZI party)
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To: mngran2

What the heck is the big deal? It wouldn’t have changed any of their answers anyway.

The Obama campaign whines too much because they know they have a little runt of a candidate they have to make excuses for.


41 posted on 08/18/2008 1:04:40 PM PDT by dforest (I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
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To: mngran2

It is a given, accepted on faith by the Democrats, that Obama is smarter, more eloquent, and a better debater than any other person. Given the obvious fact that McCain rode him hard and put him up wet, they have to postulate all sorts of explanations for this turn of events. The fact that Obama is just not very good at this stuff will never occur to them, because it contradicts their assumptions.


42 posted on 08/18/2008 1:05:19 PM PDT by gridlock (Barack Obama is the Sanjaya Malakar of American Politics...)
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To: jerod

The Obamaniacs are praying for the Rapture so most of Red State America disappears, which would insure a win for their boy Barry, lol


43 posted on 08/18/2008 1:05:24 PM PDT by mkjessup ("People are going to begin to wonder if Russia can be trusted!" - SecState Maddy Rice, well DUH!!!!)
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To: MrB

Had an aid cue him on what? It wasn’t a debate, and the questions were about personal opinions: they had no right or wrong answer. And Obama had THREE questions in advance to McCain’s two. Face it, McCain was just better prepared and OBVIOUSLY answered above Obama’s “pay grade”. These people need to step back from Hollywood and Get Smart. “Cone of silence” indeed.


44 posted on 08/18/2008 1:06:55 PM PDT by cake_crumb (Terrorist organizations worldwide endorse Obama.)
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To: Williams

It was really interesting the way he stopped in the middle of the word “inexperienced” when talking about why he would never have nominated Clarence Thomas. Rush was all over that today.


45 posted on 08/18/2008 1:08:59 PM PDT by cake_crumb (Terrorist organizations worldwide endorse Obama.)
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To: cake_crumb

I’m with you man.

It was McCain’s forum, because the questions exposed core beliefs, which Obama must hide because people, even his supporters would find them abhorrent.

The controversy exposes the left, though, because they reveal that they would have not hesitated to cheat if they could.


46 posted on 08/18/2008 1:09:06 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: ovrtaxt

Obama’s daughters say he hates ice cream. He’s can’t even just be honest and say he doesn’t like it, but has to pander on desserts too.


47 posted on 08/18/2008 1:10:24 PM PDT by keepitreal ("I'm Barack Obama and I approve this message. . . until I don't.")
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To: gridlock

How can you cheat when you technically can’t answer a question wrong? Cheat on what??


48 posted on 08/18/2008 1:10:42 PM PDT by cake_crumb (Terrorist organizations worldwide endorse Obama.)
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To: gridlock

The light is dawning on the democrat Marbleheads that BHO is not ready for prime time.


49 posted on 08/18/2008 1:10:53 PM PDT by AU72
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To: MrB
"The controversy exposes the left, though, because they reveal that they would have not hesitated to cheat if they could."

Of course. Besides, Obama's moral compass obviously points due Hell. He HAS to hide them in front of a crowd like that. He wouldn't even make eye contact.

50 posted on 08/18/2008 1:13:32 PM PDT by cake_crumb (Terrorist organizations worldwide endorse Obama.)
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