Posted on 08/19/2008 5:34:17 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
If your child's school was invaded by Columbine-style killers, methodically murdering students in cold blood, would you want teachers to shoot to stop them? Gayle Fallon wouldn't. For that matter, Fallon doesn't think teachers "have it in them" to even try to save their students' lives. Fallon, the president of a teachers union in Houston, TX, made her views known during an Early Show segment this morning conducted by Harry Smith.
The topic was a decision adopted by a rural north Texas school district to permit teachers to carry guns in the classroom. As Harrold, TX School Superintendent David Thweatt explained, the decision was prompted by the school's close proximity to an interstate [presumably making it a tempting target], and its remoteness—thirty minutes away from law enforcement. Thweatt made clear that all guns have to be approved by the school board and teachers have to undergo extensive safety and related training. None of that mattered to Fallon.
HARRY SMITH: Gayle, when you first heard about this, what was your reaction?
GAYLE FALLON: Initially I thought it was a joke. However, after a couple of media calls, we realized it wasn't and we were asked whether our district would consider it, and it was absolutely no way would we consider it. One of the things that hit me is, you know, Colombine and the other incidents were generally initiated by students. Now, I've been around teachers a long time. They don't have it in them to aim at a student and kill him. They'll freeze. Nor would I want them to.
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Projection?
True, but it only takes one with a backbone and some common sense. Rare in the NEA membership, but it does happen.
Stupid, arrogant, (androgynous) b!+ch.
Well times have changed since I was in high school, I guess.
We had some teachers that were hard enough to roller skate on. They took no nonsense from anybody. I watched a shop teacher smack the crap out of a couple of kids that were giving him a hard time. Used a chunk of lumber. If he had a gun well.......!
I had several teachers that would relish the thought of plugging a student or two. IMHO the problem will not be a lack of volunteers, but an overabundance of them.
do i need a /sarc tag?
Prior to pursuing education as a career, my 8th Grade History teacher and wrestling coach had worn a highly distinctive, green colored, slightly flattened headwear item. He apparently had looked so good in it that he was invited to SE Asia to show it off. I still remember him going over his classroom rules on the first day of class. "If I catch two of you fighting, I'm going to break it up right there and keep you after school. At that time you'll finish the fight, and the loser will get detention."
The man became a role model for me, and eventually our High School principle. Now, some 20+ years later I still look him up when I get back home.
I have no doubt that he'd "have it in him," to ventilate any student shooter.
Ms Fallon, we have the right, not a requirement, to keep and bear arms. We already have that right in Utah schools. I’m certain that most of the teachers do not exercise that right. That’s OK. If you are a shooter, you don’t know which teachers are armed, only that some might be armed. Also, the fact that many people could not defend themselves does not mean that nobody can defend themselves.
I’m also a little skeptical that the fine people of Texas don’t have any teachers that can handle firearms.
“I’ll agree with her, there. Most would be out the door and halfway down the street at top speed before the first kids got shot. ;)”
Out to the teacher’s parking lot to get my gun out of my truck.
The Guidance counselor was not ever tested again while I was in school.
Nowadays, teachers get prosecuted for not saying "May I please" when they give a kid detention. People like your principal and my guidance counselor just aren't around anymore, and the schools are all the worse for it, IMHO.
Put Gayle in Baltimore at night with no gun.
My sons graduated from a school system where the assistant superintendent was a Lt. Col. in the Army. I think if armed it would be one shot one kill.
Fallon doesn't think teachers "have it in them" to even try to save their students' lives.When I was a Sr in HS a new teacher came on staff, he taught 3rd yr (Jr) English. He had a Black Belt in Karate and everyone was scarred *shirtless* of him. Even the baddest of us Greaser bad a__es gave him a wide berth in the halls. Then we had the male Gym Teachers who could also kick butt. Like the Varsity Football Coach - his body fat was like zero.
There has to be a few of these types left. (I would hope)
I don't think many teachers want to be play law enforcement, or they would have entered a much more lucrative profession. America has to do a better job raising their kids; parents need to be held accountable for their failures.
I personally know many teachers that I would want to be armed and do believe they would defend the students. I might feel different if I lived somewhere else, but one thing to remember is the teacher who reacted in such a situation would also be defending themselves. The idea that they would flee and leave the students- if the teacher could flee to avoid the situtation, then couldn’t the students also get away? To me getting away from the shooter if possible is not a bad thing- especially if possible to get the students out. Every scenerio would be different of course, but to just say the teachers wouldn’t defend the students off hand is not fair. I think teachers that arm themselves are or should be prepared to use that firearm in defense of themselves and their students, and teachers that would not be willing to do that would likely not want to be armed to begin with.
We used to call these morons “Doves”, but their militancy against survival has evolved beyond nature.
I wouldn’t have a problem shooting ANYONE who was trying to harm my students. They become my kids, and I would protect them if at all possible.
susie
She’s simple-minded. Even if you are hard-core against firearms, there are ***NON-LETHAL*** methods to protect students.
Teachers could be armed with pepper-spray, bean-bag guns, stun guns, guard dogs, etc.
So the poor, simple-minded union president doesn’t have to have teachers killing kids (even armed, rampaging, cold-blooded Columbine killers)...
...but *some* sort of defense from teachers for their innocent students (especially young students in Kindergarten who can’t be expected to pack heat themselves) makes sense.
Non-lethal weapons, liberals. Anything is better than being sheep at the slaughter.
Of course, that solution is probably “above her pay grade.”
Required reading, “Terror at Beslan,” by John Giduck:
http://www.terroratbeslan.com/
For the benefit of Liberal scum like Fallon, I will take a moment to transcribe from the book’s conclusion:
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“So to an America tucked comfortably into beds at night: sleep well. Close your eyes and go quietly into each gentle night, refusing to acknowledge the danger that lurks outside your doors. But before you do that get down on your knees and pray for protection by those men and women who have already heeded the call, who stand ready to do violence to those who would do you harm. For the time is coming when they, even with their tremendous courage, will no longer be enough. Then, the battle will fall on the shoulders of each and every one of us.”
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Make no mistake, the ultimate end of the Liberal agenda is always the death of the innocent, the death of freedom, and the death of the good. People, as well as great notions end up dying when Liberals are allowed to pursue their self-serving, self-absorbed agendas. Liberalism kills.
An old Texas name, actually. And I’m very proud of his decision - we see on FR the quote “when seconds count, the police are only minutes away”. That goes double in this instance: all the blood would be spilled and the perps long gone if they called authorities and awaited their arrival.
Colonel, USAFR
Whose district?!!
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