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More Women Than Ever Are Childless, Census Finds
New York Times ^ | August 18, 2008 | Katie Zezima

Posted on 08/19/2008 6:54:24 AM PDT by reaganaut1

Women are waiting longer to have children, and more women than ever are choosing not to have children at all, according to a new Census Bureau report.

Twenty percent of women ages 40 to 44 have no children, double the level of 30 years ago, the report said; and women in that age bracket who do have children have fewer than ever — an average of 1.9 children, compared with the median of 3.1 children in 1976.

“A lot of women are not having any children,” said Jane Lawler Dye, a Census Bureau researcher who did the report, which looked at women of childbearing age in 2006. “It used to be sort of expected that there was a phase of life where you had children, and a lot of women aren’t doing that now,” Ms. Dye said.

Women with advanced degrees are more likely to be childless, the study found. Of women 40 to 44 with graduate or professional degrees, 27 percent are childless, compared with 18 percent of women who did not continue their education beyond high school, the data show.

The numbers are consistent with a 2006 report Ms. Dye issued on the same subject. While year-by-year change is slow, Ms. Dye said, the data show that women of the baby boom generation are continuing to transform the American family.

Hispanic women are the only group bucking the trends found in the study, averaging 2.3 children each by their 40s. The number of children a Hispanic woman has decreases sharply, however, depending on how many generations her family has lived in the United States, the data show.

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KEYWORDS: census; childfree; demographics; genx; hispanics; women
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To: driftdiver; napscoordinator

Christianity should also share some of the blame for destroying the religious consensus within the empire. I’m with Gibbon on that one.


81 posted on 08/19/2008 8:35:36 AM PDT by Clemenza (No Comment)
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To: MrB; tom h
Watch her relationship with her father. If she is respectful towards her father, even (or especially) outside his presence, go to that father immediately and plead your worthiness to court his daughter.

Boy is that spot on!

The only thing to add is look at her mom, that is who she will be most like.

82 posted on 08/19/2008 8:38:45 AM PDT by wmfights (Believe - THE GOSPEL - and be saved)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
Other times, "new blood" has given us the likes of Emma Goldman, Al Capone, and Joseph P Kennedy Sr, and has proved decidedly harmful to the country.

Whew! For a second there I thought you were prejudiced against Mexicans. Now I see you also hate Jews, Italians and the Irish.

83 posted on 08/19/2008 8:39:09 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Clemenza; Andonius_99; envisio; rintense; WayneS; Enosh; tearlenb; Long Island Pete; ...
See 27 and 77....

Tattooed FReeper, Street Corner, Trailer Park, Bar & Grille....PING.

Wow, I got to ping 2 lists...I am getting bashed for being tattooed and for being a FREERIDER, what a morning....ha ha ha

84 posted on 08/19/2008 8:39:26 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (Some days it is not worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: tom h

I lived in the country for the last 5 years and thought I found the right girl. I just came back pretty heartbroken.

It didn’t work out due to cultural differences with the family. She still lived home. I’m not a bad person but don’t fit in since I wasn’t born here. My Jewish name didn’t help either.

Maybe I’m picky but I’ve never been attracted to a woman here. They act too much like men. Nice to have fun with but I don’t feel any attraction.


85 posted on 08/19/2008 8:39:35 AM PDT by varyouga ("Rove is some mysterious God of politics & mind control" - DU 10-24-06)
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To: Geist Krieger

* The reason is that when they become divorced, single parents, they want the government to be their husband and take care of them and to be the father and raise their children. *

I have heard this argument many times before. I also understand their are studies that show strong correlation between the rise of liberalism, such as started during FDR, with woman’s suffrage. (I know that is not a polically correct thing to say.)


86 posted on 08/19/2008 8:40:12 AM PDT by NEWwoman
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To: tom h
I know that New Yorkers find Kansas City, Cincinnati, Des Moines, and Peoria to sound awfully boring, but you will have a wonderful time as long as you don't act like an arrogant New Yorker (I don't say that accusingly) and you will meet some awfully nice, traditional ladies.

The ironic thing is that so many people in New York city these days (especially Manhattan and northern Brooklyn) are FROM places like Kansas City, Des Moines, etc.

I wasn't too impressed with the women I have met in South Carolina and Tennessee (two areas where my sister has lived over the past few years). The higher quality women get married young, while what's left over are the tattooed, trashy "redneck girl"/Tammy types. All the women down there are also into the whole "megachurch" thing which is a huge turnoff.

87 posted on 08/19/2008 8:40:13 AM PDT by Clemenza (No Comment)
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To: tom h
30 years ago, when I was a teenager, there was an old adage, that if you want to find a traditional gal to marry, go the Midwest.

Well, it doesn't have to be that way in this day and age. I found myself a nice traditional Catholic girl right here in New Jersey. Granted, it wasn't easy. I had to use an internet Catholic matchmaker site to do it.

She's a nurse so she's got an education. We both wondered what kind of parents we would be considering we both found other people's kids to be mostly annoying. After we had our first, however, everything changed. Now we have five of our own and she's now a retired nurse and full-time Mommy. And strangely, other people's kids aren't nearly as annoying as they used to be.

For those people who don't think their hearts are big enough to love a child of their own, I advise them not to use that as an excuse. The only reason to not have children if you are married and physically capable is selfishness. If you are too self-centered and self-focused to love a child more than yourself then please, don't have one.
88 posted on 08/19/2008 8:40:39 AM PDT by Antoninus (The greatest gifts parents give their children are siblings.)
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To: tom h

I think that has to do with conservative women not running out and aborting because having a baby would be inconvenient.


89 posted on 08/19/2008 8:42:15 AM PDT by autumnraine (Forever a Newbie)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick
You have every right to be tattooed. Its just that many of us guys don't find it attractive. There are men who beg to differ, as you probably already know.

Its getting to the point where I will have no choice but to date/marry a Jewish girl, especially if I find myself with a millennial (whose generation seems to think tats are "empowering").

90 posted on 08/19/2008 8:42:31 AM PDT by Clemenza (No Comment)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee; Alter Kaker; reaganaut1
WM: The sons and daughters of the new immigrants (legal & illegal) will marry children of other ancestry.

KD: This assertion is doubly FALSE. First: the children of the aboriginal peoples of Mexico will NOT [on average] marry into other races [and especially they will not (on average) marry Caucasians].

You couldn't be more wrong. Similar things were said of the Irish, Italians and eastern europeans when they immigrated in large waves. BTW, Hispanics were always considered Caucasian until the 70's.

91 posted on 08/19/2008 8:47:53 AM PDT by wmfights (Believe - THE GOSPEL - and be saved)
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To: SoothingDave; KayEyeDoubleDee
Whew! For a second there I thought you were prejudiced against Mexicans. Now I see you also hate Jews, Italians and the Irish.

ROTFLOL!

92 posted on 08/19/2008 8:50:02 AM PDT by wmfights (Believe - THE GOSPEL - and be saved)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick; Clemenza; tom h

Weird. I’m a Conservative Catholic woman with two advanced degrees and one tat, in SE PA, who has three naturally, and is on the list to adopt. I must be as rare as hen’s teeth.


93 posted on 08/19/2008 8:56:39 AM PDT by Malacoda (A day without a pi$$ed-off muslim is like a day without sunshine.)
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To: Clemenza
I do not believe that tattoos are empowering...I believe it is putting a little bit of your inner self on your outer self.

I have a friend who is married, tattooed and has 5 children.

The fact that I have tattoos has no bearing on the fact I do not have children and am not going to have children, no more than being tattooed has any bearing on the fact that she had children.

94 posted on 08/19/2008 8:58:56 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (Some days it is not worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: Malacoda

Good for you, but I was referring to the inhabitants of Carlisle, Berks County, Lancracker, er, Lancaster.


95 posted on 08/19/2008 9:00:49 AM PDT by Clemenza (No Comment)
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To: Clemenza

Berks isn’t THAT bad...and Lancaster has a ton of Amish. That ought to balance it a bit!


96 posted on 08/19/2008 9:02:17 AM PDT by Malacoda (A day without a pi$$ed-off muslim is like a day without sunshine.)
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To: Clemenza
Its getting to the point where I will have no choice but to date/marry a Jewish girl,

If you're Jewish, why wouldn't you want to?

In my case, I didn't even get close to marriage until I realized that my faith was important to me and I needed to find a woman who felt likewise.
97 posted on 08/19/2008 9:04:41 AM PDT by Antoninus (The greatest gifts parents give their children are siblings.)
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To: Malacoda
Berks has become exurbia for those who can't afford Chester County. Nevertheless, lots of toothless folks and you have to drive a half hour to get any sort of shopping done.

Lancaster County is an odd mix of Amish, Puerto Ricans (in Lancaster city), rednecks, and (more recently) exurbanites who commute to Chester County and the mainline.

98 posted on 08/19/2008 9:06:08 AM PDT by Clemenza (No Comment)
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To: Antoninus

I’m not Jewish, but I admire their prohibition on tattoos. The Jewish women I know that I find attractive are already spoken for.


99 posted on 08/19/2008 9:07:55 AM PDT by Clemenza (No Comment)
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To: Jaded

You’re so right, it isn’t always a choice.

I had one “successful” pregnancy at 19. Then at 23, I had a miscarriage far along in pregnancy. Then at 24, I had a baby with birth defects who died at six weeks of age. - After that, my husband decided to embark on an affair. . and after that, I could no longer trust him to stick by me if my reproductive health kept failing and I had another baby with “problems”. We had one child who was “normal”, and I didn’t want to find myself a dumped wife, unwell and struggling to support myself and two children, one possibly a special needs child, so I took steps to avoid that. - I think he decided I was a good and cheap enough housekeeper, cook, maid, nursemaid, gofer and secretary that he might not be able to find a hot replacement who would also be a practical replacement. (I wasn’t a dog necessarily.)

I wanted children and grandchildren, but have had to accept the reality of my life and am just thankful for whatever good is in my life. Our son never married (due in part to the realities of marriage that he had seen in us and others). - “Shades of Edwards” - -

My sister-in-law, on the other hand, did not like children and did not want to have any children (or grandchildren). She and my husband’s brother almost divorced because of her refusal to have children (which in all fairness HE had agreed to going in). Well, over her protests and complaints, they had two children who are now having children. She still complains about how hard the second labor was and how glad she was when the two kids left home. - They both now treat me with pretty much total disrespect and passive-aggressive contempt. I’ve bent over backwards to accommodate them, but of late have decided that I am done with their belittling, caustic treatment of me and his frequent tongue lashing of me. I am staying off their turf where I’m subject to his chewing my butt, away from the venues where she makes loud, belittling remarks about me in front of the whole group, and they are going to cease and desist on my case on any other turf. - I think I’ve, hopefully, paid a high enough price for being in that “royal family in their own eyes”.

I’m thankful for the one son that I do have, as well as the other two boys that I lost so long ago - and I hope to see them again in a better Kingdom. (After over 40 yrs. of marriage, things are better to a great degree and I’m thankful.)


100 posted on 08/19/2008 9:09:22 AM PDT by Twinkie (TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT !!!)
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