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Arsenic Linked to Diabetes
WebMD Health News ^ | Aug. 19, 2008 | Caroline Wilbert

Posted on 08/20/2008 7:53:21 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: Clemenza
I prefer my Arsenic with “Elderberry Wine” thank you...

Elderberry extract is touted as a treatment for influenza, Clemenza. Is there a term for that besides rhyming?

Anyway, it's sold in drug stores. The Israeli's did some studies on it, IIRC. The trade name escapes me.

41 posted on 08/21/2008 12:39:07 AM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: Myrddin

I never got an answer about the Texan’s blood glucose control.


42 posted on 08/21/2008 12:42:32 AM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Nothing erases a mistake/stray dust in a pastel painting as well as a soft blob of fresh white bread.

It also does a great job of picking up tiny broken glass splinters, if you have broken a light bulb, for example.

So, it’s not *totally* worthless......;]


43 posted on 08/21/2008 2:41:01 AM PDT by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent......)
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To: theKid51; Apple Blossom

ping


44 posted on 08/21/2008 2:52:44 AM PDT by bmwcyle (If God wanted us to be Socialist, Karl Marx would have been born in America.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
My husband has type II diabetes and here we thought it was because both of his parents, all four of his grandparents and all his ancestors as far back as we can discover had it. Now I discover it was all that whitebread they ate.
45 posted on 08/21/2008 5:08:30 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: JRandomFreeper

Amen!


46 posted on 08/21/2008 5:16:00 AM PDT by coop71 (Being a redhead means never having to say you're sorry...)
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To: JRandomFreeper

LOL! That’s awful. :)


47 posted on 08/21/2008 6:01:42 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: nnn0jeh

ping


48 posted on 08/21/2008 7:58:58 AM PDT by kalee
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To: muawiyah

Are you familiar with Hereditary Hemachromatosis (the (the overbinding of iron)? Its kind of the reverse of what you just explained... common in Northern Europeans...genetically my ancestors adapted to the harsh growing conditions by overstoring the minute amounts they were exposed to given their almost constant diet of root vegetables.

In today’s world, w/iron fortifying mosts processed foods, the storage of excess iron leads to diabetes, cancers, athritis, heart problems’ etc.

To anyone reading this, if you are of Irish, English, or Welsh ancestry, have your doctor order the simple blood test to screen for HH. It is very a very common genetic disorder...yet not often screened for.


49 posted on 08/21/2008 8:10:43 AM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (I am still bitter.)
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To: neverdem
Elderberry extract is touted as a treatment for influenza, Clemenza. Is there a term for that besides rhyming?

Anyway, it's sold in drug stores. The Israeli's did some studies on it, IIRC. The trade name escapes me.

Great stuff, works every time! Sambucol

50 posted on 08/21/2008 8:43:02 AM PDT by muggs (No matter who wins, America loses)
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To: muggs; Clemenza
Great stuff, works every time! Sambucol

That's the ticket for that elderberry extract, Sambucol. Sauerkraut and kim chi also have at least anecdotal reports claiming clinical utility for the flu.

51 posted on 08/21/2008 9:19:30 AM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: Harvey105
Diabetes has a wide variety of impacts. The insatiable thirst is a common symptom, but each of us has variations in physiology. The mechanism behind the increased thirst is dehydration. The lower activity of insulin in clearing sugar from the blood allows it to accumulate. At concentrations above 180 mg/dL, the sugar (and water) are forced across the kidneys into the urine. The increased frequency of urination demands replacement of the water.

My fasting blood sugar is usually around 70 mg/dL. I have it checked at my annual physical as my dad became an insulin dependent diabetic around age 47. It robbed his eyesight over time. My dad consumed lots of alcohol and sugar over his lifetime. I turn 52 next week, so it's time to become more vigilant.

52 posted on 08/21/2008 10:26:21 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: neverdem
I never got an answer about the Texan’s blood glucose control.

That's an important issue. I'm going to see if I can add an A1C test to my blood work on my next physical. That apparently gives a better long term view than the snapshot of a fasting blood glucose level. Last physical, I had my testosterone checked. I had never checked it after surgery for cancer in 1985. It was 271. That explained why all the workouts and exercise haven't yielded good results since that time. I need to find a local doc to pursue solving that problem.

53 posted on 08/21/2008 10:32:36 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: neverdem

“It is prudent to avoid arsenic exposures...”

Do you have to have a graduate degree to come to this conclusion?


54 posted on 08/21/2008 10:42:07 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: Myrddin

Thanks for the info and good luck with your health.


55 posted on 08/21/2008 10:47:14 AM PDT by Harvey105
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
Idaho water contains higher levels of arsenic than most. We have a lot of volcanic formations in the state. The levels are higher in the western side of the state. Check out the following two links for more info: DEQ website and USGS Arsenic in Water distribution (PDF)

The website already acknowledges arsenic as being implicated in diabetes.

56 posted on 08/21/2008 10:48:30 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: PennsylvaniaMom
To anyone reading this, if you are of Irish, English, or Welsh ancestry, have your doctor order the simple blood test to screen for HH. It is very a very common genetic disorder...yet not often screened for.

All of the above in the ancestry department. The arthritis is well underway. I accompanied my wife to the chiropractor last year. He ran an evaluation that included X-rays of my spine. The deterioration on the anterior side (facing the internal organs) was evident. It has a very "feathery" appearance on the films.

57 posted on 08/21/2008 10:58:36 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

It sounds like you are on top of your health issues. Good for you!

HH is also known as ‘IronFist’’ or ‘BronzeFist’ due to the arthritic deforming of the small joints of the fingers/hand...also, the iron can give the extremities a weird, bronzey discolorization.

Phelebotomies (blood draws) are the usual course of treatment to reduce iron buildup (causing the pt. to become amenic and thereby utilizing the stored iron build up). It was described to me as survival of the fittest run amok.


58 posted on 08/21/2008 11:34:19 AM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (I am still bitter.)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom
I've never had any evidence of the kinds of symptoms you describe. When I was in grad school, my immunology class performed a range of interesting tests. One test mixes a few drops of blood with fine teflon balls. The balls become coated with proteins in the serum. If those proteins have a mix of antibodies and antigens that react with each other, the balls will clump. It's an indication of the presence of auto-immune antibodies. Most of the class rocked their slides for 15 minutes with no change. My slide barely managed 3 rocks before it clumped into an immovable mass. C'est la vie.

My favorite procedure was doing cardiac punctures on the lab rabbits for blood draws. I never killed a rabbit in the process and the rabbits were lots of fun. On of my classmates was less successful...that one tasted particularly good on my dinner table. I did check to make sure the antigen in use on that bunny wasn't a human pathogen.

59 posted on 08/21/2008 12:03:14 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: PennsylvaniaMom
Ice Age conditions were such that there was a vast amount of iron dust in the atmosphere.

People adapted or died. The most Northerly people adapted.

Those residing further South in the then Temperate zone roughly parallel to the Mediterranean, didn't.

The Irish and Welsh are, essentially, identical to the Basque, and the Basque are simply a residual population of those who lived in the Ice Age refugia most Northern European ancestors called home.

The Irish and Welsh, but not the Basques, have an additional background population that came from the Volga/Black Sea area roughly 1000 BC to 700 BC via NW Spain.

The problem for those who adapted to a high iron diet is the need to maintain it else suffer serious anemia.

60 posted on 08/21/2008 12:30:33 PM PDT by muawiyah
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