Posted on 08/20/2008 7:53:21 PM PDT by neverdem
Best bet for anyone with Type II is to give up all starches (and other carbohydrates) and revert to your true ancestral diet rich in red meat, fresh fish, and plenty of fats and oils.
You still have to have the gene set associated with Type II to develop the symptoms. Not surprising agent orange might trigger them early, but you’d have developed some of the symptoms eventually.
No, it doesn’t. However, those with the genes for Type II should start early in life to give up carbohydrates. Frankly you’d be better off living off the wild game you can find in a city residential area than eating carbs.
It's a life saving feature for life in the high Arctic. Should be able to see a campfire or the glint of Sun off the back of a reindeer at 15 to 20 miles away in clear weather. Some people think of it as having superior night vision.
My relatives could literally "see through" standard camouflage used in WWII (for example).
Squirrel sounds good and I love it.
Down side is that I'm color blind, and can't make a Cat5 cable without using a meter to ring out the wires.
I received waivers from USAF to enlist both times.
Different abilities, and maybe not what I wanted, but adaptable, as long as I understand my limits.
/johnny
That enabled me to drive my car wearing sunglasses ~ which I needed to do since the entire higway seemed lit up like a night baseball game.
Fantastic experience, but I'd had no idea the eye could process so much stuff so well in the dark.
After a few months the brain toned down the images and I was able to walk around in the daylight without sunglasses.
It should be possible to develop an eyedrop that would give a man normal vision like that. Then you wouldn't need that night vision stuff.
I navigate well enough across country on moonless nights. Across fences and hedgerows, all the way to the beer fridge and back. ;)
/johnny
Absolutely false. There is NO . . . . repeat NO history of diabetes on either side of my family. With no history, the gene ain't there. In addition, the sheer numbers of other Type II victims from Vietnam whose medical history is similar to my own is stark. Obesity doesn't run in my family and neither does diabetes. If you look at the records of the VA, the men and women from Vietnam who acquired these debilitating diseases have only one thing in common - Agent Orange exposure. The research that was done to trace the incidence of the diseases to Agent Orange exposure was extensive and depended more on actual facts than just the numbers of reported cases. This isn't speculation, it is hard fact that is backed up by conclusive scientific evidence. And, Type II diabetes is only ONE of the diseases that has been traced to Agent Orange. There are approximately 10 - 12 major diseases that have been traced to Agent Orange. If you bothered to do the research, you would discover that the US government is making payments of tens or millions of dollars each month to Vietnamese families who were also impacted by Agent Orange. Exposure to this stuff alters cell structure to produce one or more of these diseases. You should visit a VA facility some time and talk to the healthcare professionals who are treating Vietnam Era vets.
There's a complex exception involving organized DNA strand shutdowns and genes that occur only on the X-Chromosome of course, but I can't begin to 'splain all that.
BTW, I was exposed to Agent Orange at Fort McClellan Alabama (as were several tens of thousands of WACs).
None of the epidemiological studies have bothered to track down what's happened to all the guys and gals who trained at McClellan during the periods when Agent Orange was used to keep down the underbrush as well as give the helicopter jockeys from Fort Rucker some "live practice".
I'm sure adding that cohort would change your results and whole big bunches of the guys with benefits arising out of that exposure might "lose them".
So, let's put it this way, until "I'm" studied, your data is no good.
A absolute load of Hooey ! Probabilities ? odds ?
Eat less, Eat better/healthier, exercise more, much more.. Take responsability for your Own Health, it is Largely in Type-2's ability to do so !
If the majority of Type 2's would get off their collective Fat ass's and take care of them self's, rather than looking for some excuse or reason to stay in the "victim" status column, there would be less reason, that is, less call for Big Pharmaceuticals to profit from their cronic lazyness.
It is the easy way out to do nothing, and just as easy to make money of off those who choose to do nothing..
The money saved could/should be used for a Real problem.. TYPE 1 Diabetes and it's Devastating Complications.
It's genetic jack.
Best hope for all diabetics is the prohibition of the possession, sale or display of carbohydrates.
Just because someone refuses to take responsibility for their health, Then has to turn to Insulin Injections, does in no way make them a T-1.. They were not born with a Non-working Pancreas, They did not have a Auto-immune response that destroyed their Islet Cells.
Panty waste Type-2's dont even have a clue what it is to have and grow up as a T-1, my friend..
-peace
The propensity is "hereditary" ~ that is, gene controlled.
If you people would keep your sick babies home, get your chicken pox shots, and avoid shingles, all those folks wouldn't have to suffer Type I diabetes.
It's your behavior, not our eating habits, that spreads the problem.
Thank you for the information. I’m aware of all that and I reiterate that the gene does not run in my family. It isn’t recessive it isn’t present. There is zero history of diabetes in my family going back generations. In addition, I am not now and have never been obese or morbidly obese, so those causes can also be ruled out.
You can talk about weak links to Agent Orange all you like but, the fact is, based upon the pathology of the disease and my family medical history, I should not have this disease. Agent Orange is the only causal factor and the VA does not (or at least in my case DID not) casually diagnose me as a Type II diabetic. I underwent a thorough examination and review of my family medical history prior to the diagnosis.
In addition, the other diseases that have been associated with Agent Orange exposure, were not casually included in the Agent Orange list. Far too many Vietnam veterans and their children have been diagnosed with these diseases for any but the most absurd medical practitioners to toss it off as coincidence. There is considerable smoke to accompany the fire.
I would also add this - my diabetes did not appear until some 25 years AFTER my exposure. The same is true of the other veterans who either contracted diabetes or one of the other diseases associated with Agent Orange. As for your compatriots, I would start checking VA hospitals to see if any have shown up to be evaluated or treated for one of the diseases associated with Agent Orange exposure.
Due to My Children's Genes, they Can Not ever re-grow Islet Cells, ....geneticly imposable.
Type -2's can and often do reverse the effects of Insulin Resistance, due to changes in Lifestyle, Diet and Exercise. Genes do not "deform" back to normal, other wise we would be able to reverse the Auto-immune response of T-1's by using the same methods to reverse T-2 Insulin Dependancy.
Type 2's "may" have a propensity to be Insulin resistant, but it is their Poor lifestyle choices that make them Insulin Dependant T-2's.
It's sad, but your ignorance that you possibly think that Type-1's are caused by a lack of Immunization shots is asinine, especially in light of the fact that SOME T-1's are BORN as such, coming out of the womb that Way.
-peace
This is as it should be if the primary thesis of the cause of Type II is valid. That is, that Type II is not an aberration, it is simply "normal" for Ice Age, pre-agricultural type human beings. About 5% of today's population appear to be "throwbacks" who just never did pop up with the mutations that allow consumption of large amounts of carbohydrates.
Pima Indians, for example, have a nearly 100% incidence of Type II diabetes. Their relatives in Mexico across the border are much poorer and simply cannot afford the high carb foods their wealthier relatives in the USA can afford.
The relatives in Mexico have a low incidence of diabetes BTW.
It's not that the Pima eat carbs ~ rather, their total diagestive system and their normal metabolic processes simply are not designed to tolerate a diet high in carbs.
The same with the Eskimo, Aleuts and numerous other high-Arctic East Asian and West Asian people. There are isolated groups that live high up in mountain ranges. They all can and do have a high incidence of Type II diabetes.
Tell you what, nothing I like more than breaking out of the typical Western diet every now and then and living on nothing but meat and dairy products for 3 or 4 months. The blood sugar comes right down and is easily controlled. That's "normal".
Tell you what, let's not. Unless you can satisfactorily convince me that your medical credentials exceed those of the researchers in the VA, the military, the CDC and various independent civilian laboratories, what we have is a mildly interesting chin wag in which I'm telling you what is (with respect to me and thousands of veterans), and you're trying to convince me that I'm as dumb as a bucket of hair by using Indians and Eskimos (who prefer to be referred to as "Inuit" today).
Since I have spent lots and lots of time looking into diabetes, as well as talking to my doctors and diabetic educators, I think I have a pretty good idea of the pathology of the disease. And, since Type II Diabetes is only ONE of the diseases that has been linked to Agent Orange exposure (not by me, but by the VA, CDC, military, and various independent civilian laboratories), I think that the overwhelming amount of evidence from all sources showing the link between Agent Orange and all of these diseases is pretty solid. In addition, having followed for many years, the efforts various veterans groups made to have these diseases covered by the VA as the result of exposure to Agent Orange, if the VA could have legitimately made the "recessive gene" argument to avoid providing coverage, they would have.
You may not like the facts and they may disagree with the pathology of diabetes that you read somewhere, but the facts are indisputable which is why Dow Chemical had to pay HUGE fines to the government because they sold Agent Orange to the government on the proviso that it was perfectly safe for humans. American veterans and Vietnamese who were exposed to the herbicide have medical proof to the contrary.
Your examples of Pima indians and Eskimos went too far off the reservation. And, what you know of my diet would easily fit on the head of a pin and leave plenty of room for the Lord's Prayer and the text of War and Peac.
As far as the Eskimo preferring Inuit, that'll start as soon as they start referring to the Sa'ami correctly according to their various tribal structures, e.g. Skolt, Inari, etc.
OK?
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