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1 posted on 08/23/2008 2:20:09 PM PDT by lizol
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2 posted on 08/23/2008 2:22:25 PM PDT by lizol
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GEORGIA CONFLICT 2008

Let's see...NATO and US Warships in the Black Sea (Russia views the Black Se as their own private swimming pool), Poland Signs missile shield agreement, Ukraine and Georgia assured membership in NATO, nations all over the world condemming the Russians, and the list will grow. This is what Putin and his ilk are reaping from their agression...and well they should.

3 posted on 08/23/2008 2:24:55 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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Wow. Good writer. Good article. Thanks for posting it.


4 posted on 08/23/2008 2:25:13 PM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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nice piece.


5 posted on 08/23/2008 2:32:20 PM PDT by ichabod1 (It's all fun and games until Russia starts invading Eastern Europe (pete))
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It is not military power that makes a country great but the investment in education, society, its people’s freedom, civil rights and wealth (as in West Germany after the WWII).

Of course, had the US not held a miltary shield over West Germany and the rest of Europe, it would have fallen long ago to the superior military power of the USSR.

The author is correct in her assertion, but unless you or somebody else has sufficient military power to protect the country, it won't last long.

6 posted on 08/23/2008 2:35:19 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (qui)
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I too have been thinking there might be some negative repercussions for the Russkies here. It is already apparent that the other former Soviet republics have hardened in opposition, and it has caused the European Union countries to view America's military presence there a little more favorably also.

The ability to withhold the sale of oil and natural gas is over-rated as a weapon. In order to harm your client, you have to refuse to sell it at all, to anyone, which means you are refusing revenues-not good.

I wonder if the author is related to Vasco and Ilian Evtimov, the brothers who played basketball for North Carolina and N. C. State, respectively.

7 posted on 08/23/2008 2:35:57 PM PDT by wayoverontheright
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Kalinka Malinka
8 posted on 08/23/2008 3:02:57 PM PDT by blam
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>>>The world is horrified by this new Russia.<<<

the new soviet of monopoly oil and gas.


10 posted on 08/23/2008 3:12:38 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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Kalinka-Malinka-on youtube
11 posted on 08/23/2008 3:29:55 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th
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For me, the last few days illustrate that the Kremlin never learned the lesson about the end of the Soviet Union. It is not military power that makes a country great but the investment in education, society, its people’s freedom, civil rights and wealth (as in West Germany after the WWII). If a political regime built on naked power is very brutal, it can survive more than 70 years. But at the end it will fall, because it is hollow inside. People applaud military victories, but when they are sober on the next morning they value much more a normal life, wealth, foreign investors in their towns and the amenities of globalization such as free travel and free trade. That is the good news in these dark days.

Lizol, my friend, this is an incredibly wonderful writing and I thank you deeply for posting it. The author has tremendous insight and a gift with words.

13 posted on 08/23/2008 3:52:27 PM PDT by MarMema (Georgia has stood for freedom around the world -- now the world must stand for freedom in Georgia.)
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“For me, the last few days illustrate that the Kremlin never learned the lesson about the end of the Soviet Union. It is not military power that makes a country great but the investment in education, society, its people’s freedom, civil rights and wealth (as in West Germany after the WWII). If a political regime built on naked power is very brutal, it can survive more than 70 years. But at the end it will fall, because it is hollow inside. “

But the end can come very far in the future and aside from the Mongols and Vikings, nobody ever “conquered” Russia.

I think your most improtant point is about what happened immediately after the fall of the Soviet Union.

THAT wsa the time for the U.S. to make its move - to make a move to drawn the nations of Eastern Europe and Russia into an economic, political and military alliance. But Bush I. Clinton, and Bush II were prossible the most incompetent triad of Presidents to ever succeed one another in office.

As for the EU and western Europe - forget them. They are the ELOI in The Time Machine. As long as they fed, and clothed and medicated and permitted to fornicate in peace, they would galdly give up any peace. Look at their response to a handful of hostile, arrogant Muslims in their very mdist - threatening them, demanding their bizaar customs be legitimized, raping their women in front of them.

Their solution is to cover their heads, enact strict gun laws and abolish the death sentence.


24 posted on 08/23/2008 7:40:21 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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btt


26 posted on 08/23/2008 8:14:47 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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