Skip to comments.“Help me out here, Madam Speaker” ( “I don't think anybody can tell you when life begins” )
Posted on 08/25/2008 7:50:09 AM PDT by kellynla
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-San Francisco, described herself yesterday morning on NBCs Meet the Press as an ardent, practicing Catholic, then told moderator Tom Brokaw and an audience of millions that Church teaching on when human life begins is unclear.
Besides, said Pelosi, even if life does begin at conception, that would not change her pro-abortion views. The point is, is that it shouldn't have an impact on the woman's right to choose, she said. Roe v. Wade talks about very clear definitions of when the child -- first trimester, certain considerations; second trimester; not so third trimester. There's very clear distinctions. This isn't about abortion on demand, it's about a careful, careful consideration of all factors and to -- that a woman has to make with her doctor and her god.
Brokaw was quizzing the Speaker on Sen. Barack Obamas response last week to Pastor Rick Warrens straightforward question at the Saddleback Forum, At what point does a baby get human rights, in your view?
Asked Brokaw, Senator Obama saying the question of when life begins is above his pay grade, whether you're looking at it scientifically or theologically. If he were to come to you and say, Help me out here, Madam Speaker. When does life begin? what would you tell him?
Here is Pelosis response: I would say that as an ardent, practicing Catholic, this is an issue that I have studied for a long time. And what I know is, over the centuries, the doctors of the church have not been able to make that definition. And Senator -- St. Augustine said at three months. We don't know... And so I don't think anybody can tell you when life begins, human life begins.
(Excerpt) Read more at calcatholic.com ...
Anyone who would like to email Pelosi:
She and others, not just politicians, who have actively supported and facilitated abortion either with money or votes have ex communicated themselves and compound their grave sin each and every time they receive Communion.
It is unfortunate that so many of our bishops are cowards. The Barque of Peter is reeling, but it will not be overwhelmed.
Too many Catholics believe that they are Catholic because they receive Communion rather than understanding that they receive Communion because they are Catholic.
Wonder how many murders (abortions) all these wonderful "Catholic senators" can account for in their families.
Kennedy comes to mind, that is a big family & he is PRO abortion!
How do they explain being "Catholic" and going 100% against the teachings of the Catholic church & the Pope?
“Besides, said Pelosi, even if life does begin at conception, that would not change her pro-abortion views.”
Ok Nancy...so when did Jesus himself become human?
Most would point to the announcement by Gabriel. He would only have been a “clump of cells” at that point.
How about when Mary was only a few months along when she visited Elizabeth and unborn John recognized the unborn Jesus.
How about then?
week 1 - Babys cells are rapidly dividing, multiplying.
week 2 - Gestational sac already visible.
week 3 - Brain and heart are beginning to form.
week 4 - Inner ear, larynx and digestive system forming and circulatory system working well.
week 5 - Arms, hands, genitals, nasal pits form. Also baby is going thru its second set of kidneys.
week 6 - Baby begins to move, brain visible, bones begin to harden, toes form.
weeks 7-8 - Eyes open, elbows and toes fully visible, genitalia almost recognizable, no tail.
week 9 - Iris of eye develops, fingernails, head growing larger than body.
week 10 - Brain developed, digestive system active, reflexes work.
week 11 - All baby teeth grown in, intestines moving to abdomen, pancreas producing insulin.
week 12 - Baby can urinate, lungs developed and strengthening.
“if you see some movement in the brush, is it moral to shoot at it when you dont know if its a person or not?”
Libs love to demonize hunters especially when they make this very same mistake.
Only hunters won’t march on washington by the thousands to protect their right to shoot at rustling bushes.
Ya might want to email that to Pelousy since she either refuses to believe it or is just plain stupid!
Thanks, I think I'll ask her to explain whys she is Catholic when she supports MURDER!
Thank you for posting Archbishop Burke’s statement. This is very clear and I will quote it in my editorial regarding Pelosi to my local newspapers.
“Rome, Aug 19, 2008 / (CNA) Archbishop Raymond Burke, prefect of the Supreme Tribunal of the Apostolic Signatura, the highest judicial authority of the Holy See, said this week that Catholics who publicly support abortion especially politicians should not receive Communion, and that ministers of Communion should be responsibly charitable in denying it to them if they ask for it until they have reformed their lives.
It is an amazement to me that the discussion and focus continues to be only about the right to life.
WHICH IS CLEAR ... FORM THE MOMENT OF CONCEPTION, THE CELLS ARE ALIVE AND PRODUCING A HUMAN BEING.
However; the argument ignores the reality that abortion is HUGE business with several serious unethical off shoots. The fact that the Federal government pays with tax payers monies for a huge majority of abortions is a scheme of immense proportions.
Why are we not creating serious discussion as to the reality that the government has no business in financing this mammoth enterprise? i(n financing as a business Planned Parenthood). Less than 3% are a life threatening danger to the mother. We have no business underwriting such a huge money costing program ... all in the name of a woman's right to choose. She has a right to choose.
Do not get pregnant if you do not want a child. It is called accountability, and if a mistake is made then it is an unintended consequence of her own actions, except for a rare few cases of rape. We all must live with the results of unintended consequences.
STOP FUNDIN ABORTIONS AND THEY WILL PLUNGE IN NUMBER.
The result of which is millions of babies will not be murdered.
God forgive us for our blindness. Our stubborn stiff necked insistence to be our own god, living under the influence of the prince of this world,Satan. Bring your light to so shine so that all may see your wonders. Life itself is a wonder and we cast it off without remorse or guilt. Let us repent and seek your truth. You have blessed us beyond measure. Thank you Lord.
You’re more than welcome.
Because, I haven’t seen it published in any of the so called MSM newspapers; everyone should email the article to everyone they know.
“And so I don’t think anybody can tell you when life begins, human life begins.” At conception idiot! If it didn’t you wouldn’t have to kill it to get rid of it. Leave it alone and it will grow.
I’m sure I wouldn’t be the first...she sticks her head in the sand or up her *** so she won’t have to face the truth.
Yeah, and Speaker Pelosi makes it a priority in her life to try and live up to most of the 10 Non-Binding Suggestions in Exodus 20 as well.(When she thinks it will win her votes, anyway.)
“A bishop or two needs to step forward and educate her properly.”
Oh, Pelousy, Kerry, Kennedy et al don’t need to be educated; they all know when life begins...
they’re just trying to be evasive...only problem is, “evasive” doesn’t get you a passkey into Heaven and it sure as Hell doesn’t give you a right to claim that you are a “practicing Catholic” much less the right to receive the Body & Blood of our Lord Jesus Christ in the sacrament of Holy Communion!
She's a damned liar and a scandal. The Church in America is in de facto schism, and "Catholics" like Pelosi are one of the causes of this deplorable state of affairs.
The point is, is that it shouldn't have an impact on the woman's right to choose, she said. Roe v. Wade talks about very clear definitions of when the child -- first trimester, certain considerations; second trimester; not so third trimester. There's very clear distinctions. This isn't about abortion on demand ... This lying demonspawn has defended partial birth infanticide, so we know she is lying when she tries to make a case for there being restrictions on abortion because of personhood 'approaching'. This sick female sold her soul long ago for empowerment through defending, promoting, and funding the abortion slaughter. But she lies so convincingly ... of course, catholic democrats want the lies to soothe their dead consciences as they defy the Pope's teaching and the teaching of Jesus Himself! Sadly Catholics don't appear too interested in correcting these catholics.