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Obama Supporter On FNC: Jesus Would Be O.K. With Abortion
Newsbusters ^ | August 14, 2008 | Dave Pierre

Posted on 08/25/2008 10:59:36 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o

Jesus would be O.K. with abortion. Not only that, Jesus's position on abortion would be even "more radical" than Barack Obama's! That was the wild, and patently false, assertion from Barack Obama supporter Dr. Marc Lamont Hill, a guest on Wednesday's The O'Reilly Factor on FNC (8/13/08).

[snip] The earliest Christian writings reveal that the earliest followers of Jesus were universally against abortion:

-- The Didache ("The Teaching of the Twelve") may be the earliest Christian document not found in the Bible. It has been dated at 50 A.D. It says: "You shall not murder. You shall not commit adultery. You shall not seduce boys. You shall not commit fornication... You shall not procure [an] abortion, nor destroy a newborn child."

[snip]

If anyone ever needed an example of how callous and clueless so-called "progressive" pundits can be when it comes to the topic of Christianity...

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From Wednesday's The O'Reilly Factor (8/13/08):

O'REILLY: The question is simple. (crosstalk) Would Jesus be as progressive on abortion - does he believe Jesus would, based upon his knowledge of theology - as he [Obama] is?

HILL: Absolutely. I think, absolutely.

O'REILLY: You believe Jesus would say, "Partial-birth abortion: No problem"?

HILL: I think Jesus would be even more radical than all the candidates who are --

O'REILLY (incredulous): On this issue?

HILL: On this issue and on all these other issues. I think a fundamentalist understanding of the pro-life/pro-choice debate is misguided and actually misses the point. And I think Barack Obama understands this kind of thing -- (inaudible) close to the center --

O'REILLY (incredulous): That would be a stunning dissertation if the Senator would give it. And I would absolutely want to hear it.

HILL: And I think he would. I think he will!

O'REILLY: Let's wrap this up ...

(Excerpt) Read more at newsbusters.org ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; election; nobama08; obama; proaborts; religiousleft; sin; wwjd
I don't think anybody has posted this yet. It deserves the widest possible circulation.
1 posted on 08/25/2008 11:00:03 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Jesus didn’t text message me?!?


2 posted on 08/25/2008 11:01:33 AM PDT by kcm.org (DRILL LOS ANGLES--DRILL NOW!!!!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I’m confused, I thought Jesus was running for president.


3 posted on 08/25/2008 11:03:36 AM PDT by Crazieman (Vote Juan McAmnesty in 2008! Because freedom abroad is more important than freedom at home!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Jesus was not a frickin’ socialist.
He expected each individual person to carry out His will for the people.
No to collectivism!


4 posted on 08/25/2008 11:04:22 AM PDT by griswold3 (Al qaeda is guilty of hirabah (war against society) Penalty is death.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Dr. Marc Lamont Hill,

This is a sick, sick, man.

5 posted on 08/25/2008 11:04:49 AM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E. That spells free. freerepublic.com baby)
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To: Crazieman

you didn’t get the memo?

Jesus was merely a prophet ... the true messiah is running for president.


6 posted on 08/25/2008 11:05:50 AM PDT by palomonte
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Right: Jesus was just kidding about the millstone and throwing yourself into a deep sea for harming “one of these little ones”...


7 posted on 08/25/2008 11:06:00 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: kcm.org

So Jesus would be pro-choice? Would He be in favor of partial birth abortion? Would He be in favor of saving babies alive after abortion attempts or would He think it’s ok to let them die?

Would He be in favor of homosexual marriage?

I’ve heard similar talk about quotes such as Jesus saying “Blessed are the peacemakers”, which the leftists interpret to mean we should never fight a war or be involved in military action.

And the say how Jesus preached and encouraged all to help the poor, which the leftists interpret to mean that we need more gov’t programs to help the poor.


8 posted on 08/25/2008 11:06:18 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Luke 12:49-53

49”I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled! 50But I have a baptism to undergo, and how distressed I am until it is completed! 51Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division. 52From now on there will be five in one family divided against each other, three against two and two against three. 53They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law.”


9 posted on 08/25/2008 11:08:35 AM PDT by Crazieman (Vote Juan McAmnesty in 2008! Because freedom abroad is more important than freedom at home!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

All will learn what Jesus will do.


10 posted on 08/25/2008 11:09:51 AM PDT by polymuser (Taxpayers voting for Obama are like chickens voting for Colonel Sanders.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

13And they brought young children to him, that he should touch them: and his disciples rebuked those that brought them.

14But when Jesus saw it, he was much displeased, and said unto them, Suffer the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.

15Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein.

16And he took them up in his arms, put his hands upon them, and blessed them.


11 posted on 08/25/2008 11:11:19 AM PDT by Rodm (Seest thou a man diligent in his business? He shall stand before kings)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Checked voice mail and no mail from the Lord.

Maybe this guy heard from Jesus [hay--soos] in San Antonio, whose girlfriend is now in trouble.

12 posted on 08/25/2008 11:11:29 AM PDT by kcm.org (DRILL LOS ANGLES--DRILL NOW!!!!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Also - on the subject of preaching and gifting to the poor, it is all by choice, which is the most absolute, utter basic tenet of Christianity, on which all of it is entirely based. Choice.

Government compulsion to give is not choice. Without the choice to give, you cannot voluntarily display your help of the least of us. That is not Christian.


13 posted on 08/25/2008 11:11:53 AM PDT by Crazieman (Vote Juan McAmnesty in 2008! Because freedom abroad is more important than freedom at home!)
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To: CitizenM; brycemax; sweetiepiezer; Alex Murphy; Gamecock; kingattax; John Semmens; shrinkermd; ...

Ping-a-ling


14 posted on 08/25/2008 11:13:18 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("The first duty of intelligent men of our day is the restatement of the obvious. " - George Orwell)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

The fundamentalists among us are neither shocked nor incensed by this latest move in Hussein’s game. He has been rebuked by Bible believers, and the move is now his, and only his, to correct or continue on his path. God is in control of whomever wins the election, and the President can do nothing without God’s OK, even though God gives him, and us, choice.


15 posted on 08/25/2008 11:15:33 AM PDT by Righter-than-Rush
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To: Mrs. Don-o

These people are so whacked, brain dead, stoned beyond belief, there is no way this country will survive if their Messiah gets elected!!!!


16 posted on 08/25/2008 11:15:46 AM PDT by blondee123 (NO-BAMA for President in 2008!!!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Jesus would turn this guy into a pig and run him off a cliff.
17 posted on 08/25/2008 11:16:17 AM PDT by boomop1
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To: Mrs. Don-o

When you examine the pedigree of their ideas, what you come to understand is that the abortion issue is one of the keystones to devaluing human life. This is something that is implicit in the ideology of the Left; it’s cast into their philosophical DNA.

Humans are things.

That the essence of it. Humans are fungible and ultimately disposable “assets”.

This is why you’ve got the likes of Margaret Sanger and Dr. Peter Singer doing their damndest to move the goalposts when it comes to defining life and humanity. Singer, for example, has argued that infants up to 28 months old don’t really have any cognitive ability that defines them as human. So it’s OK to ‘terminate’ them if the parent (or really, the State) so chooses.

Who lives, who dies. That’s the power they seek. They are all monsters, monsters from the deepest dark heart of of our existence and history is replete with the outcomes and the evidence of their sick Utopian ideas: slaughter and mass murder on a scale that beggars the imagination.

History also tells us what we must do to deal with them.


18 posted on 08/25/2008 11:18:10 AM PDT by Noumenon (Time for Atlas to shrug - and pick up a gun.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Peter reports and Mark wrote that Yah'shua said:

NAsbU Mark 10:19 "You know the commandments, 'DO NOT MURDER, DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, DO NOT STEAL, DO NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS, Do not defraud, HONOR YOUR FATHER AND MOTHER.'"

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai

19 posted on 08/25/2008 11:19:44 AM PDT by Uriel-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: Crazieman

Liberals simply want to substitute a government gun (compulsion) for your conscience. You don’t get a say. You’re just a meat animal to be harvested, one slice at a time.


20 posted on 08/25/2008 11:22:14 AM PDT by Noumenon (Time for Atlas to shrug - and pick up a gun.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

The very definition of insanity !

No Brain - No Pain.

Stupid is as Stupid Does.

This is the result of (PURE) Liberal thinking (or lack thereof).
21 posted on 08/25/2008 11:22:35 AM PDT by jongaltsr (Hope to See ya in Galt's Gulch.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Just keep yappin’ you crazy liberals.
Go ahead and parade your freak show in front of the nation this week, and keep talking about Jesus like this.

Everytime the libs talk, they ensure a republican landslide.

The fun part is the day after the election when they look so puzzled.
What went wrong?


22 posted on 08/25/2008 11:23:29 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: AmericaUnited
Matthew 18:6

But if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.

23 posted on 08/25/2008 11:24:14 AM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat lead.)
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To: Crazieman
I thought Jesus was running for president.

Close. It's God's other son, Barak.

24 posted on 08/25/2008 11:24:31 AM PDT by tbpiper (Obama/Biden: Instead of Ebony and Ivory, we have Arrogance and Insolence.)
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To: Crazieman
I thought Jesus was running for president.

Close. It's God's other son, Barak.

25 posted on 08/25/2008 11:24:37 AM PDT by tbpiper (Obama/Biden: Instead of Ebony and Ivory, we have Arrogance and Insolence.)
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To: polymuser

“All will learn what Jesus will do.”

We already know: NOTHING.

Besides, if he didn’t take the time to condemn slavery, why should we care about what he thinks about fetuses? Unless of course, it means more people to be born and become slaves worshipping him, well then, that makes sense.


26 posted on 08/25/2008 11:24:41 AM PDT by Elian Gonzales
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To: Crazieman
I thought Jesus was running for president.

Close. It's God's other son, Barak.

27 posted on 08/25/2008 11:24:43 AM PDT by tbpiper (Obama/Biden: Instead of Ebony and Ivory, we have Arrogance and Insolence.)
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To: Crazieman

No, no, no, no.

He was running for the border. Jesus Gomez - he was running for the border to the U.S. when he was stopped by a section of wall.


28 posted on 08/25/2008 11:26:45 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I once read a novel about a serial killer getting his instructions to kill from his own twisted “Jesus” speaking though a TV. Not a very good book but Democrats remind me of that man.
29 posted on 08/25/2008 11:29:04 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

These people are sick. They’re welcome to their perverted opinions, but don’t try to justify them by (mis)using Scripture!


30 posted on 08/25/2008 11:34:17 AM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
"I Agree With Rev. Wright! Jesus Was A Poor Black Man! "


31 posted on 08/25/2008 11:36:05 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Rodm
15Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein.

That is yet another one they misinterpret.

They think it means they have to act childish in all matters.

That leads to them wearing funny costumes and ridiculous body adornment, while chanting & carrying childish slogans, and shouting obscenities, while parading through our streets, believing that they are "making a difference".

32 posted on 08/25/2008 11:46:21 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Obama is on the theoretical extreme edge of the radical pro-abortion position. God Himself could not be more radical if He wanted to.


33 posted on 08/25/2008 11:47:37 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I'm sure that in this fool Democrat's mind, God consults with Obama on all of the day-to-day business, both mundane and miracle.

Surely, it's not the other way around. Otherwise, Obama would be far more humble. :-)

34 posted on 08/25/2008 11:48:53 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Elian Gonzales
Elian, my fellow FReeper, you seem to think that everything Jesus said and taught was written in the Gospels, when the Gospels themselves testify that He said much, much more than is recorded:

John 21:25
And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written.

Therefore your assumption that Jesus ought to have been expected to catalog and condemn every known, past and future, type of human cruelty, violation and aggression, is mistaken.

Jesus was often confronted with moral quetions, and He tended to answer in summary rather than in catalog form:

"[Loving God] is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."

Yhis leaves it on the honest questioner to ask himself: "Would I want someone to enslave me? Then I should not enslave other. Would I want someone to abort me? Then I should not abort others." And so forth.

That, with sufficient reflection, should answer most questions of morality.

35 posted on 08/25/2008 11:49:05 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("The first duty of intelligent men of our day is the restatement of the obvious. " - George Orwell)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Little error here.

The Sybelline Books were pagan Roman/Etruscan documents.
But that’s o.k. Apparently even THEY didn’t approve of abortions.


36 posted on 08/25/2008 11:50:11 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Neither Hill nor Obama have read the Bible through even once. They did not read how David praised God for knowing him even before his mother knew she was pregnant. Obviously, unborn babies are people. One cannot know someone unless they are alive.

Abortion is murder, pure and simple.


37 posted on 08/25/2008 12:34:03 PM PDT by Righter-than-Rush
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To: Noumenon
When you examine the pedigree of their ideas, what you come to understand is that the abortion issue is one of the keystones to devaluing human life. This is something that is implicit in the ideology of the Left; it’s cast into their philosophical DNA. Humans are things. That the essence of it. Humans are fungible and ultimately disposable “assets”.
"...social engineering--the notion that human beings can be shovelled around like bags of cement."
- Paul Johnson, Modern Times: The World From the Twenties to the Eighties

38 posted on 08/25/2008 1:28:27 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (What can I say? It's a gift. And I didn't get a receipt, so I can't exchange it.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Jesus would not support abortion.

He always quoted from the Old Testament:

“Thou shalt not kill.”


39 posted on 08/25/2008 5:06:12 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; antonius

40 posted on 08/25/2008 5:06:43 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
This issue is becoming larger -- even being picked up by the MSM lamestream media. I believe it will defeat the Obama-Biden ticket.

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41 posted on 08/25/2008 5:09:24 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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