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Katyn “deserved revenge”?
thenews.pl ^ | 25.08.2008

Posted on 08/25/2008 12:54:34 PM PDT by lizol

Katyn “deserved revenge”?

Created: 25.08.2008 15:09

“Stalin was an efficient leader, not a murderer. The killing of Polish officers in Katyn was a well-deserved revenge,“ will be the new official historical theory taught in Russian schools.

Before the opening of the new school year, the Russian Academy of Qualification Improvement and Professional Retraining of Education Employees has released guidelines for teachers regarding the history syllabus in schools.

From now on, Russian pupils will be informed that some 22,000 Polish officers were indeed killed by the NKVD in Katyn in 1940, but the act was fully justified and “politically suitable”, reports a Moscow-based liberal, but pro-government daily newspaper Vremya Novostei.

Russian teachers will also explain to their school children that the Katyn massacre was carried out “in response to the killing of thousands of Red Army soldiers in Polish captivity after the war of 1920 [between Poland and the Soviet Union], initiated by Poland, not the USSR".

Purges and acts of ethnic cleansing, killing millions, carried out on Stalin’s orders were simply "efficient endeavours” of the leader getting the country ready for the forthcoming war.

The Katyn massacre has been a running sore between Warsaw and Moscow. On March 5, 1940, Joseph Stalin signed a decree to murder Polish Army officers taken captive after the Red Army invasion of Poland in 1939. The officers, made up of Poland's intellectual elite, were systematically shot from April till May 1940 in Katyn, Charkov and Tarnow.

The information about mass graves in Katyn was made public by the Germans on April 13, 1943. Two days later, the Soviets blamed the massacre on the Nazis.

After an investigation of over a decade in length, Moscow refused to name the massacre as a war crime nor, as the Polish side alleges, was it genocide. No prosecutions have ever been made against the NKVD officers involved in the slaughter.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: education; geopolitics; indoctrination; katyn; poland; putin; revisionisthistory; russia; stalin
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1 posted on 08/25/2008 12:54:38 PM PDT by lizol
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To: lizol
We should cease all diplomatic and trade relations with these thugs immediately.

L

2 posted on 08/25/2008 12:57:40 PM PDT by Lurker (Islam is an insane death cult. Any other aspects are PR to get them within throat-cutting range.)
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To: lizol

So if the Russians thought the massacre was “well-deserved”, why did they try to pin it on the Nazis?

I’m boiling mad about this, as I can imagine everyone in Poland should be.


3 posted on 08/25/2008 1:00:13 PM PDT by dfwgator ( This tag blank until football season.)
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To: Lurker

Is Putin the new “whiskered one?”

I fear for these events of late; if we have another Carter in the White House the socialists will have another growth spurt.


4 posted on 08/25/2008 1:01:52 PM PDT by Loud Mime (USA Basketball....Double GOLD!)
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To: lizol

Marxists must enter into every civil, cultural, and political activity in every nation, leavening them as yeast leavens bread. Antonio Gramsci, (1891-1937)

In other words, SSDD


5 posted on 08/25/2008 1:01:58 PM PDT by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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To: lizol

The post coldwar warming is officially over. Russian imperialism is back.

The Eastern Europeans need weapons and they need them now.


6 posted on 08/25/2008 1:02:37 PM PDT by SampleMan (We are a free and industrious people, socialist nannies do not become us.)
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To: lizol

Let’s just say “Stalin was ... a murderer” and be done with it. Talk about starting off with a lie and going downhill from there. No one with a half a brain is going to buy this crap.


7 posted on 08/25/2008 1:02:57 PM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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8 posted on 08/25/2008 1:04:51 PM PDT by redstateconfidential (A man who lets his friends down, is no man at all.)
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To: lizol
If true, this amounts not only to a rehabilitation of Stalin, but an actual official endorsement of mass murder by the Cheka secret police.

In other words, if true, the Putin regime has not turned back the clock to Khruschev's 1950's belligerent Soviet Union but to Stalin's 1930s genocidal Soviet Union.

9 posted on 08/25/2008 1:07:32 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: lizol

NIGDY WIĘCEJ!!!

(NEVER AGAIN!!!)
10 posted on 08/25/2008 1:10:53 PM PDT by dfwgator ( This tag blank until football season.)
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To: lizol

How would Obama respond to this??????????


11 posted on 08/25/2008 1:13:26 PM PDT by RC2
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...and these are the people on whom we are relying to keep their “word” and withdraw from Georgia? Argh...

Colonel, USAFR


12 posted on 08/25/2008 1:16:00 PM PDT by jagusafr ("Bugs, Mr. Rico! Zillions of 'em!" - Robert Heinlein)
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To: QBFimi
Gramsci and the Frankfurt School are responsible for our own tyranny, the oppressive “political correctness” religion that causes us to guard our words and thoughts lest we be pounced upon by the favored “offended classes” and their lawyers.

This is hard core Leninism. We are dominated by lawyers, bureaucrats, endless laws, and regulations, and surveillance cameras. We are not yet taken out in the middle of the night with our families and murdered.

Katyn was a symbol of the regime of Stalin and his murderous, perverse thug leader of the NKVD, Lavrenti Beria. Beria used to have his driver take him through the streets of Moscow to find young people he could defile sexually and murder.

Most of these ghastly crimes have been hidden for years. The NKVD was more creative than the SS when it came to murder. Hollywood will not even release an innocuous movie such as “The Inner Circle” onto DVD because they still reverence Stalin's mass murder machine.

That is what is being celebrated in Russia today, and it is frightening. The Katyn Massacre was a tragedy that has never been defended before. The Polish people in late 1939 had to deal with the equivalent of being ruled in the west by the Hillside Stranglers and in the east by the Night Stalker. Either direction brought death and horror.

Long live Poland.

13 posted on 08/25/2008 1:16:52 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: wideawake

I ready a story once that had the Soviets launch 20 ICBMs at the US and Europe, which were aimed at destroying our retaliation capability and at Washington (or some other major city). As they launched, they announced the attack and claimed that if we did not respond, that would be the end, but that if we did, then they’d fire the complete arsenal and effectively bring about the end of civilization. I think they mentioned that they’d done the analysis to say that their attack was carefully calculated to prevent nuclear winter, but that further detonations from a counter attack would send us over the brink. It was basically a “what if” that wondered what the US would do when faced with such a threat.

At this point, I wonder if Russia is moving in this direction. I mean, if they invaded Poland, what would we really do if they said, “leave us be or we nuke your top ten cities”?


14 posted on 08/25/2008 1:20:33 PM PDT by Liberty Tree Surgeon (Mow your own lawn!)
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15 posted on 08/25/2008 1:21:33 PM PDT by lizol
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To: lizol
“Stalin was an efficient leader, not a murderer. The killing of Polish officers in Katyn was a well-deserved revenge,“ will be the new official historical theory taught in Russian schools.


16 posted on 08/25/2008 1:22:23 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Straight Vermonter

How long until the defenders of Russian behavior find this thread to justify Katyn?


17 posted on 08/25/2008 1:25:48 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: RC2

he would suggest we sit down and talk with them (without any preconditons)


18 posted on 08/25/2008 1:28:03 PM PDT by mrmargaritaville
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To: dfwgator

I suppose they’re doing such things exactly to make us feel like that.


19 posted on 08/25/2008 1:28:18 PM PDT by lizol
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To: Liberty Tree Surgeon
what would we really do if they said, “leave us be or we nuke your top ten cities”?

If I were in charge, I would propose negotiations, start evacuating our cities and then erase Russia for good.

If that blackmail were allowed to work once, it would never end.

20 posted on 08/25/2008 1:29:15 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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