Posted on 08/26/2008 4:51:20 AM PDT by marthemaria
A Somalian woman who came to Norway more than 10 years ago is harshly criticizing her fellow Somalian immigrants and Norwegian authorities. In a new book, she claims Somalians themselves don't want to integrate into Norwegian society, and that Norwegian welfare programs make it easy for them to remain isolated
The book written by Amal Aden, a pseudonym for the Somalian author, is already creating an uproar. Amal Aden wouldn't use her own name because of fears for her own safety.
In an interview with newspaper Aftenposten, the author said she hopes to launch a new debate on immigration and what can be done to further integration.
"I wrote the book in the hopes that children will get better lives," she said. "I want to see more integration, and the responsibility for that lies with the Somalians themselves and with the authorities."
She claims that resistance to integration is widespread especially among Somalian men, who fear losing their culture and religion. Many are afraid of Norwegians and view them as infidels who can't be trusted.
In her book, entitled "See us!" (Se oss!), Amal Aden claims the Somalians also exploit the Norwegian welfare state and have many children in order to qualify for more welfare payments. Many couples also "divorce" under Norwegian law in order for the women to receive even more welfare payments as single mothers, only to continue to live under Somalian customs with their Somalian husbands and have more children, the author claims.
She writes that violence is a part of life in Somalian homes, that young girls are often molested and women and children are intentionally kept isolated. Many Somalian men, she claims, prefer to live on welfare than accept jobs seemingly below their social status.
"I'm tired of being patient with a situation where children aren't getting enough food at home, where women are beaten by their husbands, where welfare payments to the (Somalian) families are used by the men to buy (the narcotic) khat, where the willingness to simply obtain more welfare money is stronger than the ability to care for children," writes Amal Aden. She accuses many spokesmen for the Somalian community of hypocrisy, saying they say they support integration when in reality they don't.
Several Somalian activists in Norway are already rejecting the book and blasting Amal Aden for criticizing immigrants traumatized by war and poverty in their homeland. "Half of the Somalians in Norway have been here less than five years, have little education and have problems integrating," claims Said Abdulwahab. "It doesn't help to criticize them."
Abdulwahab has five daughters himself aged four to 14, but has sent them all to school in Kenya. Not, he claims, because Norwegians can't be relied upon but because he wants them to get a good education.
Major publishing firm Aschehoug has put out the book, saying that while it may be accused of stigmatizing Somalians, it's important to "release new voices" on the issue. Aschehoug editor Halvor Fosli said Amal Aden had "a brave pen."
Relatively large population in Norway Somalians make up one of the largest immigrant groups in Norway, numbering around 20,000. Nearly half live in the Oslo area and most have come as refugees. Only 13 percent have had any higher education. and more than half are younger than 20 years.
Reuters reported on Monday that the number of people needing humanitarian aid in Somalia has leapt 77 percent this year to more than 3.2 million. A report by the Food Security Analysis Unit paints a bleak picture of a crisis compounded by failed rains, rising food prices, inflation, and the worst insecurity in the Horn of Africa nation since the early 1990s.
"Somalia is now facing the worst security situation in the last 17 years, with increased armed conflict and fighting, targeting of humanitarian aid workers, military build-up, increased sea piracy and political tension," the report said. "This situation is severely undermining economic activities and humanitarian delivery, thus contributing to the overall deterioration in the humanitarian situation."
bttt
The ROP and western civilization are like oil and water...
But it's ok to move there and take the govt hand outs...if they're so worried about losing their culture and religion then they should move home...oh but that govt teat is sweet!
This book would not have been published if the author not were a somalian.”
...if the author were not a Somalian.
Hmmm...why do you suppose that would be? Is it because Europeans feel it is inappropriate to make a judgement call about another ethnic or racial group?
Many people in the U.S. are reluctant to say anything critical about Hispanics or blacks. They will in turn become a target, criticized for being “judgemental” about an ethnic/cultural group with which they “have no right” to form an opinion.
This is definitely a way to subvert freedom of speech. You can’t have an opinion because you’re not a part of THAT group
Sounds like inner city America.
Paying the lower class to have children is always a recipe for disaster.
Lower class = people satisfied with welfare
***This book would not have been published if the author not were a somalian. ****
Europeans and Americans have painted themselves into a corner with this “Diversity” crap. All cultures are NOT equal.
The immigrant knows that there is a better life where he has moved, and will embrace the new home's culture, language and people as his own. He will become one with it, and everyone prospers. The country is better, having assimulated more skills, and people willing to defend her.
The parasite cares nothing about the country they live in. It's just another toilet for them to use. They have no intention of learning the culture, language or having anything to do with the people. They are there for purely selfish reasons, and if those reasons change - they will leave. These are the human locust, who consumer a nations resources and contribute nothing in return.
In days long past, immigrants came to the shores of America, often leaving loved ones behind in their homelands. They came to America and embraced her. They spoke English in their homes, and made an effort to join the great melting pot. They also knew that they would likely never return to their homeland again. They either made it here, or they perished. This effort, this risk, this challenge is what kept the parasites out, and let the immigrants in.
let’s see...Somalians not assimilating in Norway...who knew???
I often wonder if the Somalis who were dragging the bodies of our American servicemen from the downed Black Hawk have emigrated to our country. Can you imagine? I am for taking citizenship away from people who do not show an allegiance to a country. And I’m strongly opposed to dual citizenship. Those kind of people kill a country from within.
...and that Norwegian welfare programs make it easy for them to remain isolated
Bingo!
People integrate into society through work — though it takes significantly longer today than in generations past.
It sounds like Kenya would be the best place for the Abdulwahab family to live, yes?
I know of successful, striving Africans in the U.S. who send their children to school in Africa because they want them to get the old-fashioned, British-based education available there, avoiding the "getting by" or thug life attitudes too common in American schools. But I didn't think that was a problem in Norway.
They do not assimilate in the USA either.
Americans are every bit as foolish as the Norwegians for importing them.
“There are immigrants, and there are parasites. Both come in all races, both genders and all religions.”
Yes, but empirically they are not distributed evenly across races, and it is foolish for a country to ignore that when setting its immigration policy.
A Mexican woman who came to Norway more than 10 years ago is harshly criticizing her fellow Mexican immigrants and U.S. authorities. In a new book, she claims Mexicans themselves don’t want to integrate into Norwegian society, and that Norwegian welfare programs make it easy for them to remain isolated
The book written by Rosa Gonzalez, a pseudonym for the Mexican author, is already creating an uproar. Rosa Gonzalez wouldn’t use her own name because of fears for her own safety.
In an interview with newspaper NY Times, the author said she hopes to launch a new debate on immigration and what can be done to further integration.
“I wrote the book in the hopes that children will get better lives,” she said. “I want to see more integration, and the responsibility for that lies with the Mexicans themselves and with the authorities.”
She claims that resistance to integration is widespread especially among Mexican men, who fear losing their culture and religion. Many are afraid of Americans and view them as gringos who can’t be trusted.
In her book, entitled “See us!” (¡Véanos! ), Rosa Gonzalez claims the Mexicans also exploit the US welfare state and have many children in order to qualify for more welfare payments. Many couples also “divorce” under US law in order for the women to receive even more welfare payments as single mothers, only to continue to live under Mexican customs with their Mexican husbands and have more children, the author claims.
She writes that violence is a part of life in Mexican homes, that young girls are often molested and women and children are intentionally kept isolated. Many Mexican men, she claims, prefer to live on welfare than accept jobs seemingly below their social status.
“I’m tired of being patient with a situation where children aren’t getting enough food at home, where women are beaten by their husbands, where welfare payments to the (Mexican) families are used by the men to buy (the narcotic) marijuana, where the willingness to simply obtain more welfare money is stronger than the ability to care for children,” writes Rosa Gonzalez. She accuses many spokesmen for the Mexican community of hypocrisy, saying they say they support integration when in reality they don’t.
Several Mexican activists in the US are already rejecting the book and blasting Rosa Gonzalez for criticizing immigrants traumatized by drugs and poverty in their homeland. “Half of the Mexicans in the US have been here less than five years, have little education and have problems integrating,” claims Alfredo Diaz. “It doesn’t help to criticize them.”
Diaz has five daughters himself aged four to 14, but has sent them all to school in Laredo. Not, he claims, because the US can’t be relied upon but because he wants them to get a good education.
Major publishing firm Simon & Schuster has put out the book, saying that while it may be accused of stigmatizing Mexicans, it’s important to “release new voices” on the issue. S&S editor George Finkelstein said Rosa Gonzalez had “a brave pen.”
Relatively large population in the US, Mexicans make up one of the largest immigrant groups in the US, numbering around 20,0000,000. Nearly half live in the SW area and most have come as refugees. Only 13 percent have had any higher education. and more than half are younger than 20 years.
Reuters reported on Monday that the number of people needing humanitarian aid in Mexico has leapt 77 percent this year to more than 3.2 million. A report by the Food Security Analysis Unit paints a bleak picture of a crisis compounded by failed rains, rising food prices, inflation, and the worst insecurity in the Central Americam nation since the early 1990s.
“Mexico is now facing the worst security situation in the last 17 years, with increased armed conflict and fighting, targeting of humanitarian aid workers, military build-up, increased sea piracy and political tension,” the report said. “This situation is severely undermining economic activities and humanitarian delivery, thus contributing to the overall deterioration in the humanitarian situation.”
Social status? With all the niceties of modern western ideals, have people been blinded to the fact that welfare recipients are merely beggers without bowls?
Being on welfare is the lowest social status one can fall to, and yet these men view it as preferable socially than taking certain jobs.
The loss of shame is one of the mortal wounds western civilization has given itself.
Somalian woman - emigrates to Norway - bitches about losing her Somalian culture?
rofl
If it is true that, “Many are afraid of Norwegians and view them as infidels who can’t be trusted,” why in the world are they there?
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