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Reviews In: Hillary Grand Slam
SFGate: Politics Blog ^ | 8/26/8 | Carla Marinucci

Posted on 08/26/2008 9:22:29 PM PDT by SmithL

Denver -- It was powerful, it was passionate -- and from inside the hall here, it was one killer speech.

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton brought the house down with her address tonight at the Democratic National Convention, where it looked to be about a 9-plus on the Richter scale.

The insiders had warned that Clinton had to deliver bigtime tonight -- for her legacy, and for her future, as well as for Obama.

Deliver she did. Republicans, of course, had their views -- that she delivered evidence that their guy, John McCain, is the only one ready to hit ground running at the White House. Here's some thoughts from critics and insiders:

*Phil Trounstine, Democratic strategist and Obama supporter: ''Sen. Clinton did everything she needed to do. She made it crystal clear to all of her supporters that it is their duty to fight on for her by supporting Barack Obama. If he becomes president, it will be in part because Hillary Clinton had the grace and strength to re-unite her party.''

*Ruth Sherman, author and communications consultant: ''I've never seen her this good, not even close. . . .

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008dncconvention; dncconvention; hillary; nobama; piaps
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1 posted on 08/26/2008 9:22:29 PM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Any MSM bozo would be ridden out on a rail if they said Hill sucked.


2 posted on 08/26/2008 9:24:04 PM PDT by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: SmithL

Well, she should have spoke so passionately for herself earlier when she could have done so very easily, but she probably did not believe her own rhetoric in either event.


3 posted on 08/26/2008 9:24:25 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: shankbear

Yep. I thought the speech wasn’t that great an endorsement. She talked a lot about herself and her campaign, and the history of women getting the right to vote. But she didn’t talk much about Obama.


4 posted on 08/26/2008 9:26:02 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: SmithL

100% fantastic.

Thank G-d, the Dems benched her!


5 posted on 08/26/2008 9:26:31 PM PDT by WKL815 (If the phrase 'Personal Responsibility' makes you defensive, you may be a liberal.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

She could have given the same exact speech if the nominee was John Edwards.


6 posted on 08/26/2008 9:27:12 PM PDT by Revenge of Sith
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To: SmithL

Could they be any more nakedly partisan? Hillary quite possibly is the worse speaker of this generation. The notion that she can give a “powerful” speech is pure nonsense.


7 posted on 08/26/2008 9:29:39 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.iraqvetsforcongress.com ---- Get involved, make a difference.)
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To: SmithL
Lets hope that was her swan song and she and her husband will fade into the annals of has beens.

As far as her speech If I was one of the 3o% of the Clinton supporters who are voting McCain, there was nothing in that speech to change my mind.

8 posted on 08/26/2008 9:31:00 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: SmithL
"Deliver she did."

She delivered the same old tired bullshit we have been fed for years. It is hard to tell who is the worst whore. Obama or Hillary.

9 posted on 08/26/2008 9:31:18 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Theodore R.

Maybe she didn’t believe her own rhetoric earlier in her campaign. I never quite understood her rationale for running for president. She grew up in a middle class family in the middle of America, she wanted to renew the promise of America, take back America, provide socialized medicine, etc. And then Obama comes along with “change” so she says she’s been making change for 35 years. Her whole campaign was a joke. Her alleged qualifications and understanding of the middle class problems and all of it was all smoke and mirrors.

What really happened was that she and Bill decided shortly after the 2004 election that 2008 was her year, because there would be no incumbent president running. And since the party out of power sometimes gets an advantage after two terms of anyone’s presidency, the Clintons decided it was her time. Whether she was a good candidate or not didn’t matter, because she was “inevitable”. The hubris of Bill and Hill made her campaign crash and burn.

Given their history, it’s hard to believe anything that Bill and Hillary say at face value.


11 posted on 08/26/2008 9:32:53 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: WKL815

Every dem I know was pissed when Obama passed over Hillary for Biden.

DARN


12 posted on 08/26/2008 9:33:43 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: NavyCanDo

I swear God looks out for this country. He (or She), sent Obama to slay Hillary...then sent Hillary to show up Obama...then sent Biden to show the measure of the man who wants to be president...then sent McCain to show what Qualified really means...I wonder whom God will send next?


13 posted on 08/26/2008 9:34:42 PM PDT by johnnycap (I would really like the model of Civil Forum that Warren has created to be repeated across the count)
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To: SmithL

She made a campaign speech for HRC, not nobama.

I dont know what if anything could derail nobama from getting the Dem nomination at this point, unless he gave it up himself.


14 posted on 08/26/2008 9:35:15 PM PDT by valkyry1
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To: NavyCanDo
"Lets hope that was her swan song and she and her husband will fade into the annals of has beens."

Don't bet the farm on it. They are like heroin addicts. They can't kick the habit.

15 posted on 08/26/2008 9:35:54 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Hillary did well.

She was more human and less shrill than previous efforts. She did herself more good than she did good for Obama.

Obama's objective was to convince Hillary supporters the they could conscientiously, even enthusiastically, transfer their support to Obama. I think Hillary delivered in the sense that her followers can now in good conscience transfer their affiliation to Obama. I do not think they will do so enthusiastically.

Hillary's objective was more nuanced. Her task was to propitiate expectations for party loyalty and to avoid criticism for being a sore head but not to generate enough enthusiasm to get Barak Obama elected. I think she probably succeeded in both of these objectives.

Despite Hillary's repeated exhortations to elect Obama. I did not get the feeling that the enthusiasm she generated was anything but transitory, without legs, and did not reach beyond the hall. In other words, television viewers, the only ones who count, will not have been moved enough to walk their precincts or even take out their billfolds.

Best case analysis for the Obama forces, Hillary might have moved sentiment a point or two but it is not a groundswell, it is not permanent, and will not have markedly improved Obama's chances.


16 posted on 08/26/2008 9:37:28 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: SmithL
well, considering the source: SFGate.com... "the Karaoke Journalists are @ it again."
17 posted on 08/26/2008 9:37:30 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (If you aren't "advancing" your arguments,your losing "the battle of Ideas"...libs,hates the facts 8^)
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To: SmithL

I heard some of it on the radio and it sounded awful.


18 posted on 08/26/2008 9:38:47 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: SmithL
Reviews In...

I wonder if, to save time, their GOP convention articles are already written.

-PJ

19 posted on 08/26/2008 9:39:37 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Obama's "citizen of the world" is the 2008 version of Kerry's "global test.")
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To: SmithL

Kinda makes you want to go out and buy some cattle futures.


20 posted on 08/26/2008 9:40:02 PM PDT by Waco
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To: Baynative
"I've seen two nights now and no one has said anything about what they plan to do for our country."

Then you have not been paying attention. They plan on raiding your wallet even worse than they do now. Please pay attention.

21 posted on 08/26/2008 9:40:52 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: SmithL

PS: I bet this review was written two weeks ago.


22 posted on 08/26/2008 9:41:17 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: johnnycap

Yes.Nancy Pelosi was right whaen she said that God has sent us Barack Obama.


23 posted on 08/26/2008 9:41:28 PM PDT by Hildy ("We do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.")
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To: johnnycap
I wonder whom God will send next?....
Allen West. :D .....GO WEST!
24 posted on 08/26/2008 9:41:54 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (If you aren't "advancing" your arguments,your losing "the battle of Ideas"...libs,hates the facts 8^)
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To: SmithL

I admit I don’t like Hillary but I can recognize a good political speech when I hear one, even from her. Hers was pure schlock and even embarrassing in its “we can cure every wrong and evil in the world” theme, its banalities, and platitudes. To use an old Florida expression, if she were a man we’d say he had “balls bigger than cocoanuts.”


25 posted on 08/26/2008 9:43:20 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: blackbart.223

She delivered the message that Barack Obama is an obvious third place candidate to McCain and Hillary


26 posted on 08/26/2008 9:44:52 PM PDT by willyd (Tickets, fines, fees, permits and inspections are synonyms for taxes)
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To: SmithL
>>>Reviews In: Hillary Grand Slam <<<

Written prior to Hillary's appearance and placed in DNC fax machines by Obama campaign managers.....

...send button pushed during Hillary's last sentence.

27 posted on 08/26/2008 9:45:02 PM PDT by HardStarboard
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To: SmithL

I am no fan of HRC - but it was easily the best speech that she has ever given.

She urged her peeps to support Obama - but really gave him no props.

Her main point was - vote for Obama because he’s better than Mccain.


28 posted on 08/26/2008 9:45:23 PM PDT by palomonte
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To: Baynative

“I’ve seen two nights now and no one has said anything about what they plan to do for our country.”

Bingo! And when this stupidity is over, you still will have not heard anything. Obama is toast.


29 posted on 08/26/2008 9:45:37 PM PDT by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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To: blackbart.223

Exactly, the same speech we’ve heard for 30 years. Higher taxes, no energy plan and universal healthcare. The only question is whether the Establishment press wrote their reviews before or after?

Pray for W and Our Troops


30 posted on 08/26/2008 9:46:07 PM PDT by bray (Drill Congress!!)
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To: SmithL

OK Hillary showed that she was a party faithful. Now the Obama ship hits the span—it is out in the open that the Ayers-Obama-Bernadine-Michelle linkage is much more than Obama said. He is caught in a big lie.

Now Hillary can make her move, with super-delegate help, to “save” the party.


31 posted on 08/26/2008 9:47:57 PM PDT by jahp
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To: SmithL
She seems to have bottled up her hurt and anger on being passed over by going back to what she loves best to do, bash Bush, McCain and everything Republican. That is not the way to change minds and hearts, just more of the same old hatred I'm so fed up with and which is tearing our country apart like never before.

I think it is no longer possible to have civil discourse in this country.

An epiphany of hatred.

32 posted on 08/26/2008 9:48:23 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: bray
"The only question is whether the Establishment press wrote their reviews before or after?"

They wrote their reviews before her speech. They could always edit them before hitting the send button if she choked on her words or bile poured out of her ears.

33 posted on 08/26/2008 9:49:49 PM PDT by Artemis Webb ("The church is near, but the road is icy. The bar is far away, but I will walk carefully.")
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To: johnnycap

“I wonder whom God will send next?”

One hundred thousand contractors building a big wall on our Southern border?


34 posted on 08/26/2008 9:50:10 PM PDT by doug from upland (8 million views of HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: Aliska

I don’t hate all the Democrats. Harry Truman seems to be a good guy. :)


35 posted on 08/26/2008 9:51:19 PM PDT by Artemis Webb ("The church is near, but the road is icy. The bar is far away, but I will walk carefully.")
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To: palomonte
the best speech that she has ever given.

Best speech ever? I thought her June 7, 2008 Remarks in Washington were better:

"To the moms and dads who came to our events, who lifted their little girls and little boys on their shoulders and whispered in their ears, “See, you can be anything you want to be.”"

Profound stuff. (/s)
36 posted on 08/26/2008 9:51:35 PM PDT by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson)
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To: nathanbedford
"Best case analysis for the Obama forces, Hillary might have moved sentiment a point or two but it is not a groundswell, it is not permanent, and will not have markedly improved Obama's chances."

Let's hope so.

Why Nathan Bedford Forrest?

37 posted on 08/26/2008 9:51:57 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: SmithL

Susan Ostretch was on Fox tonite with a different view.


38 posted on 08/26/2008 9:52:39 PM PDT by umgud
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To: johnnycap
"then sent McCain to show what Qualified really means...

Now THAT, was a bridge too far....

I'll have to vote for McCain -- but I'll wear a Hazmat suit and shower vigorously on my return home...

39 posted on 08/26/2008 9:54:10 PM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: bray
"The only question is whether the Establishment press wrote their reviews before or after?"

The answer to that question is both. No reason they should hedge thier bets.

40 posted on 08/26/2008 9:55:19 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: SmithL

My opinion..Hillary’s speech was more for her than for Obama.

Hillary..Rock on Obama. I’ll win in 2012. :)

Bill with tears: “I love you, I love you”= Why did I hear Donna Summer singing “Don’t Leave Me This Way” in the background. She’ll dump him before the next election cycle.

Chelsea- Hillary hug: Fake

Michelle: My teeth are itching over this woman, but I will applaud her for her Tubman reference.

Biden: Darn..I wish I hadn’t got those Botox injections in my cheeks. I can’t quit smiling..


41 posted on 08/26/2008 9:56:29 PM PDT by berdie
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To: Dilbert San Diego

It was all me, me, me. And Mrs. Obama did not look happy at all.


42 posted on 08/26/2008 9:57:20 PM PDT by hsmomx3 (GO STEELERS!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: berdie

I thought Thelma Houston sang Don’t Leave Me This Way—oh what does it matter, it was one of those hits we used to dance to in the disco’s.


43 posted on 08/26/2008 9:59:05 PM PDT by hsmomx3 (GO STEELERS!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Artemis Webb
I don’t hate all the Democrats. Harry Truman seems to be a good guy. :)

I never hated any of them in the past; I don't remember learning in school not to respect our presidents. Even in the liberal college I attended at the time, they had to keep it low key. It is hard to love my enemies. The best I can do is try not to repay in kind.

44 posted on 08/26/2008 9:59:17 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: palomonte
Her main point was - vote for Obama because he’s better than Mccain

And then let's talk about me. Me! Me! ME!

45 posted on 08/26/2008 10:00:13 PM PDT by riri
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To: blackbart.223

Please see my about page.


46 posted on 08/26/2008 10:00:22 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: WKL815

Amen to that, swiftly followed by gratitude that BHO is going down in flames.

Politically speaking, of course.


47 posted on 08/26/2008 10:01:00 PM PDT by MonicaG (Help Wanted: Conservative leadership '08)
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To: Falconspeed

I said the best speech SHE ever gave - not the best speech ever.

I don’t think much of her oratorical skills - so the bar isn’t set all that high.


48 posted on 08/26/2008 10:04:44 PM PDT by palomonte
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To: hsmomx3

You are correct. It was Thelma not Donna.

But the song still rattles around in my head. :)

(Been awhile since I discoed):)


49 posted on 08/26/2008 10:05:59 PM PDT by berdie
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50 posted on 08/26/2008 10:07:34 PM PDT by doug from upland (8 million views of HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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