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1 posted on 08/30/2008 1:34:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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I’m concerned about the VP debate.


2 posted on 08/30/2008 1:38:35 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (I've left Cynical City... bound for Jaded.)
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I saw Bill Kristol on the Fox All-Stars the night after Sarah’s maiden speech (if I may put it like that). He was already formulating this column in his remarks there. Weekly Standard has done a good job of positioning itself a little right of center but if this column and those comments are any indication, the journal may well begin leaning even farther right as the campaign proceeds.

I might even subscribe again (I was a charter subscriber, back in the day).


3 posted on 08/30/2008 1:39:13 PM PDT by BelegStrongbow (what part of 'mias gunaikos andra' do Episcopalians not understand?)
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unapologetic conservatism

That's something we haven't seen much of in DC. That is also part of Palin that drives the left nuts. It's the same with Rush, and why the RINOs are so embarassed to be near conservatism.

4 posted on 08/30/2008 1:42:21 PM PDT by kenth (Will Rogers never met Barack Obama.)
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One liberal commentator--a former U.S. ambassador and not normally an unabashed vulgarian--licked his chops Friday afternoon: "To steal an old adage of former Secretary of State James Baker .  .  . putting Sarah Palin into a debate with Joe Biden is going to be like throwing Howdy Doody into a knife fight!" I would bet my life on it that Biden continues to make himself look like a fool in this debate without Palin's help. Biden is in the position of a "Lifetime Washingtonian".. If this beauty queen from Alaska shoots par against him it will be a colossal victory for the McCain camp. Considering she is smart, articulate and on the right side of the issues that most Americans agree with, the Dems are toast IMO.
6 posted on 08/30/2008 1:43:20 PM PDT by Onerom99
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“if Palin holds her own against Biden, as she is fully capable of doing? McCain will then have succeeded in combining with his own huge advantage in experience and judgment, a politician of great promise in his vice presidential slot who will make Joe Biden look like a tiresome relic”

Kristol nails it here. Governor Palin is a fresh face, and she her unscripted performance on Friday was a game-changer.

You never get a second chance to make a first impression, and the Left instinctively knows what the rest of us do:

She hit it out of the park.


14 posted on 08/30/2008 1:47:23 PM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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I am not as concerned as some about the VP debate. The pressure, in my opinion, will be on Biden since he will have to walk a fine line. I was living in Philadelphia when he was first elected to the senate so I have watched him for all of his senate career. His nickname, Jabberin’ Joe, is well earned. After watching a lot of video of her making presentations as well as her acceptance on Friday in Dayton she will be well prepared and ready for him. Biden is a relic of times past. As Mike Huckeby stated on Fox News last night “any governor faces more challenges in a year than most senators face in a career. Being a senator means endless committee meetings, listening to your colleages drone on and on. Plus only working 147 days a year”. Behind those eyeglasses is a talented person who will be more than able to hold her own. I just wish she was debating Obama.


15 posted on 08/30/2008 1:47:39 PM PDT by SageofRugby
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"an effort by all the powers of the old liberalism, both in the Democratic party and the mainstream media, to ...ridicule her and patronize her. They will distort her words and caricature her biography. They will appeal, sometimes explicitly, to anti-small town and anti-religious prejudice. All of this will be in the cause of trying to prevent the American people from arriving at their own judgment of Sarah Palin."

This will get ugly before it is over.
I'm hopeful because it seems the Palin family has spent its time "living" life, not stroking their "egos".
Unlike Washington lifers that succumb to their weaknesses.

18 posted on 08/30/2008 1:51:02 PM PDT by Read2Know ("A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." S. Freud)
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What unsettles liberals is that sexist (by nature) conservatives are rallied and energized by a female candidate. This does not fit their view of conservatives (and of themselves).

Hillary is now old hat.


23 posted on 08/30/2008 1:55:04 PM PDT by bajabaja
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Joe Biden is Howdy Doody?

"One liberal commentator--a former U.S. ambassador and not normally an unabashed vulgarian--licked his chops Friday afternoon: "To steal an old adage of former Secretary of State James Baker .  .  . putting Sarah Palin into a debate with Joe Biden is going to be like throwing Howdy Doody into a knife fight!"

I'm not too worried about Sarah more than holding her own - the big ??? is whether the format is truly balanced and whether the questioners/moderator keep it like a typical VP debate (in which Sarah Palin will shine), or will the cooperate with the Demagogues in turning it into some exam/trivia contest about foreign policy minutia that Biden would be much more likely to know. On the major issues, I think SP will be fine, and she has a far more appealing presence -- plus Biden will have to tread very carefully to not piss off a lot of people if he goes into the kind of heavy-handed attacks that the Demagogues love to do.

But I can certainly imagine that there may be foreign policy minutia that she will not know and will not have time to bone up on in 4 weeks. Personally, I don't care a bit whether or not she can recite any details of the SALT-II talks, etc. but I can easily imagine that with Biden the 'Rats and MSM will try to turn the whole debate in that direction.

25 posted on 08/30/2008 1:56:11 PM PDT by Enchante (The Barracuda and the Maverick will THRASH the Obamessiah and the Mouth!!)
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McCain showed a lot of courage in choosing Sarah Plain. Obviously she has solid conservative credentials. Pro-lifers and Evangelicals will come out to vote for her based on her record. And Palin has more executive expereience then Obama and Biden combinded. Its only logical that Palin will help McCain pull in more of the women vote. Including Independents and even ticked off Hillary voters. Those are the pluses.

Any downside to choosing Palin will come from her daily behavior on the campaign trail and how the liberal media portrays her in the news. Also, Palin’s performance in the VP debate will be under a bright spotlight.

Overall, a good choice by McCain. How it plays out is anyones guess.


27 posted on 08/30/2008 1:56:41 PM PDT by Reagan Man (McCain Wants My Vote --- With Palin on the ticket, conservatives should be satisfied.)
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Biden IS one of the “good ole boys” network. He is also a relic. Hope he starts looking for some good lines to plagiarize soon. He is going to need it.


28 posted on 08/30/2008 1:56:46 PM PDT by dforest
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If she is really what the accounts say she is, I will vote for the ticket after all. I was prepared to walk away.

33 posted on 08/30/2008 2:04:56 PM PDT by gitmo (Some days you're the dog. Some days you're the hydrant.)
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I used up all my popcorn during the democRat convention. I think I better re-stock.


34 posted on 08/30/2008 2:07:25 PM PDT by gitmo (Some days you're the dog. Some days you're the hydrant.)
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My comment is this,

Make sure everyone tapes it, it will be historical.

Sarah could skin a moose with a leatherman, she can haul fish onto the deck of a fishing boat in the most dangerous of Alaskan seas, she knows which end of a rifle the bullet comes out of and does it to bring home food for the family, not for sport or photo ops.


41 posted on 08/30/2008 2:16:39 PM PDT by Eye of Unk (Yes I really do live in Wasilla, Alaska.)
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Palin is tougher (and better looking) than Chaney. Her only con is that she has shot a lot of caribou, but has never bagged a lawyer. Is Joe Biden a lawyer?


43 posted on 08/30/2008 2:27:29 PM PDT by CHEE (Stink, Steam and All)
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When you’ve been fighting the “good ole boy” insider club of your own party, fighting “Bidet” should just be an invigorating wash.


48 posted on 08/30/2008 2:35:28 PM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (We have become an oligarchy not a Republic.)
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Our government was meant to be a citizen's government, not a professional politician's government as it has become. Sarah is about the closest this federal government has come to having a citizen serve in over a century. It's about time.

I think she will do fine.

On another note, my son and his girl friend went to the Dayton event. He's independent; from talking to her, I would suspect she is a democrat. She wanted to vote for a women - that meant Hilliary.

Walking out of the Wright State arena my son said he was stunned and knew he was going to vote Republican; and then he heard his girl friend say “I'm going to vote for her”; that made him realized the significance of what had just happened!

54 posted on 08/30/2008 2:44:54 PM PDT by Herakles (Diversity is code word for anti-white racism)
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I am not concerned with the debate at all. She seems able to make precise clear points, while Biden will most likely run out time for his answers.
I was worried the pick was going to be the same old boring choice. I awoke and watched her speak and I was impressed, energized, and most of all it gave me motivation. I know others on the conservative front were impressed the money they pulled in after is proof of that.
I don't know much about her but from what I researched on her these last two days I like, I like a whole hell of a lot. The dems are scared all the comments from that side have been the most shameful grasping for some sort of slander that will stick. I don't think it will work this was a women in a field of men far removed from the mainland of the US who has had a lot worse said about her while she was throwing the riff raff out of the corrupt government up there. THIS choice shows someone who really wants to change the spending, corruption, and lack of ability in Washington to get things done. McCain just proved he is not like George Bush. Quiver in your boots Obama because when the shock of Palin settles your going to have a hard time explaining how you really are trying to change..well....anything.
56 posted on 08/30/2008 2:46:55 PM PDT by jennguhl (Let's stop letting the minority dictate the majority.)
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I’m concerned about the VP debate.

You should be since they will be there for hours after it ends trying to find all the pieces of Joe Biden after Palin dismembers him with her wit and smile.
67 posted on 08/30/2008 3:32:55 PM PDT by TheRedSoxWinThePennant
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I was EXTREMELY moved by the sleeping baby being held by one of her daughters behind her. I was choking back the tears.

How this culture can be so anti-child is just so sad.


70 posted on 08/30/2008 3:59:03 PM PDT by diamond6 (Is SIDS preventable? www.cotlife2000.com)
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