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Fish oil appears to help against heart failure
The Washington Times ^ | August 31, 2008, | MARIA CHENG

Posted on 08/31/2008 5:59:29 AM PDT by seacapn

MUNICH, GERMANY (AP) - Fish oil supplements may work slightly better than a popular cholesterol-reducing drug to help patients with chronic heart failure, according to new research released Sunday.

Chronic heart failure is a condition that occurs when the heart becomes enlarged and cannot pump blood efficiently around the body.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cholesterol; crestor; fish; health; heart; heartdisease; heartfailure; medicine
How effective is fish oil? Well,

Comparing the results from both studies, the researchers concluded that fish oil is slightly more effective than the drug [Crestor] because the oil performed better against a placebo than did Crestor.

If you are spending big money on rosuvastatin (Crestor - and many are, since more than a billion dollars worth of that drug are purchased each year), you may want to consider fish oil pills instead, and maybe avoid some of Crestor's kidney/liver-related side effects.

1 posted on 08/31/2008 5:59:29 AM PDT by seacapn
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To: seacapn

My dogs and I take fish oil daily. I don’t know if it helps but it sure doesn’t hurt.


2 posted on 08/31/2008 6:01:27 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Voting Conservative isn't for the faint of heart.)
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To: cripplecreek

I bought some fish oil tablets several years ago. Somebody told me to put them in my freezer (so you wouldn’t get a fishy aftertaste) and they’ve been there ever since! lol!

I just ‘fished’ them out of my freezer. I wonder if they’re still ok to take. Do you have to take them with meals, or just with water?

I’m 53. I guess I’d better start taking this kind of stuff seriously!


3 posted on 08/31/2008 6:06:51 AM PDT by sneakers (Liberty is the answer to the human condition.)
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To: cripplecreek

The benefits
Reduce inflammation – lower your risk of heart attack and stroke
Think clearly – boost brain function, memory, concentration and focus
Protect circulation – promote HDL (good cholesterol) while lowering triglycerides and unhealthy LDL (bad cholesterol)
Reduce pain – fight joint pain and inflammation while increasing flexibility

Omega-3 and Omega-6 fatty acids are essential fatty acids because they help sustain vibrant good health. Our bodies use these essential fatty acids to nourish our heart, brain, skin, glands and joints and help the process which produces our hormones.


4 posted on 08/31/2008 6:07:48 AM PDT by stopem1 (God Bless America! McCain/PALIN 08)
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To: seacapn

That reminds me...I forgot to take my fish oil this morning!!

(For those who have never taken it—God help you if you burp after taking it....)


5 posted on 08/31/2008 6:08:10 AM PDT by Renfield (Turning apples into venison since 1999!)
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To: seacapn

OK, another Salmon slice for me...


6 posted on 08/31/2008 6:08:37 AM PDT by Righting
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To: seacapn

Fish Oil is one of the very few “natural” supplements that actually has alot of scientific data backing it up. The price is reasonable as well. I am kinda surprised though to see this measure up as well as it did against a statin, and Crestor, which is one of the stronger ones out on the market. This is good news.


7 posted on 08/31/2008 6:09:00 AM PDT by Paradox (Obama, the Audacity of Hype.)
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To: seacapn

I take 2500 mg of distilled Omega 3 per day, a amount chosen since it is the average daily intake for an adult Japanese.

My cholesterol dropped from 260 to 179, my triglycerides are normal for the first time in my adult life, and my HDL went from 34 up to a normal 49.

My friends are now getting Lovaza, a prescription only Omega 3 fish oil, at even higher doses than I take.

http://www.lovaza.com/consumer/about_lovaza/lovaza-epa-and-dha.html?banner_s=205833026&rotation_s=28468578


8 posted on 08/31/2008 6:09:00 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: stopem1

The dark green, leafy, cruciferous vegetables (collards, kale, turnip greens, mustard greens, watercress, etc) are also excellent sources of Omega-3 fatty acids....and they taste a heck of a lot better than fish oil.


9 posted on 08/31/2008 6:09:43 AM PDT by Renfield (Turning apples into venison since 1999!)
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To: Righting

And tuna.


10 posted on 08/31/2008 6:09:57 AM PDT by stopem1 (God Bless America! McCain/PALIN 08)
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To: stopem1

I read that omega 6 is not so good. Anyone know if there’s any truth to this.
How much fish oil is the optimum daily dose?


11 posted on 08/31/2008 6:12:12 AM PDT by BIV (typical white person)
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To: stopem1

I drink grape juice. Wine would deck me.


12 posted on 08/31/2008 6:13:54 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car...)
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To: stopem1
White Tuna preferred...
13 posted on 08/31/2008 6:13:59 AM PDT by Righting
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To: FormerACLUmember

It’s interesting how fish oil and fish consumption has actually been a folk remedy for heart trouble for centuries, but has been somewhat ignored in recent times, as people deferred to more “advanced” pharmaceuticals - forgetting, perhaps, that fish oil itself is an amazingly complex substance with a wide range of properties.


14 posted on 08/31/2008 6:14:23 AM PDT by seacapn
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To: neverdem
Like, *PING*, dude.

Cheers!

15 posted on 08/31/2008 6:16:52 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Renfield
"...and they taste a heck of a lot better than fish oil."

Fish oil gelcaps have no taste at all.

16 posted on 08/31/2008 6:23:13 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: FormerACLUmember

A high quality product:
http://tinyurl.com/5ks6t6


17 posted on 08/31/2008 6:25:53 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: BIV
I read that omega 6 is not so good.

I think it's more complicated than that; it has to do with the ratio of Omega 3 to Omega 6. Taking fish oil helps correct the Omega 3/6 imbalance present in many modern diets.

18 posted on 08/31/2008 6:27:51 AM PDT by seacapn
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To: seacapn
I take the Omega-3 (coated so no fish burp!) twice a day, and my blood pressure has dropped significantly!

I will have blood work soon to see the results in my cholesterol....hopefully good.

My wonderful doctor rec. this to steer me away from prescription drugs, and I love her for it!

I feel better, more energy...and it actually can help with weight reduction.

I don't know if it's the Omega-3, but my husband has had 3 colds in a little over 2 months, and I have NOT caught them! :)

Now he's started taking the Omega-3 :)

I also take Niacin.

19 posted on 08/31/2008 6:29:27 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: seacapn

The dosage is missing. I suspect they used very high doses. I take Omega-3 daily, and have for many years. It can’t hurt...and in many ways makes good sense.


20 posted on 08/31/2008 6:33:01 AM PDT by devane617 (It's the media, Stupid)
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To: sneakers

They will thaw, be ok. My sis takes 3 @ 1000 mg for depression and ‘brain fog.’ My husband saw a great article on Fish Oil at his cardiologists — said it was good for cholesterol, good for arrhythmias, depression, joint aches. What else? This cardiologist poo=poos most herbal things, but he is a big proponent of FO. My friend takes it and her hair is just beautiful, healthy, shiny. Carlson’s is supposed to be the best.


21 posted on 08/31/2008 6:51:39 AM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: BIV

Someone told me you cannot overdo it — If you could, of course, the Norwegians would be dying left and right. hahah.


22 posted on 08/31/2008 6:53:58 AM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: Guenevere
"....I also take Niacin....."

So do I, along with 2 caps a day of red yeast rice. All the research I've done leads to this trio (Omega oil, red yeast rice, niacin)as a synergistic complex that has not only lowered my cholesterol from 248 to 175 but raised my HDL (good chol) to 78....way over the norm; my doctor is astounded...and told me to keep doing it.

23 posted on 08/31/2008 7:05:03 AM PDT by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: Victor
red yeast rice

My Doctor just told me to get some of that. Where do you buy it?
24 posted on 08/31/2008 7:08:04 AM PDT by cmsgop ( " excuse me stewardess I speak jive")
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To: Renfield; seacapn
That reminds me...I forgot to take my fish oil this morning!!

(For those who have never taken it—God help you if you burp after taking it....)

Get fish oil in enteric capsules that don't break down till they get to the small intestine. That way they don't have an aftertaste.

25 posted on 08/31/2008 7:21:29 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Drill Here. Drill Now. Pay Less.)
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To: seacapn

How does Omega 3 fish oil compare to taking cod liver oil? I’ve been taking cod liver oil, but boy, it’s vile stuff. I have to hold my nose when I take it.


26 posted on 08/31/2008 7:34:43 AM PDT by Nea Wood (Silly liberal . . . paychecks are for workers!)
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To: Renfield

***The dark green, leafy, cruciferous vegetables (collards, kale, turnip greens, mustard greens, watercress, etc) are also excellent sources of Omega-3 fatty acids....and they taste a heck of a lot better than fish oil.****

The veges counteract the Coumadin I take. I suppliment with SARDINES! (and catfish, salmon, trout.)


27 posted on 08/31/2008 7:39:58 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: cmsgop
Red Yeast Rice

at nutrition express


28 posted on 08/31/2008 7:47:42 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: Renfield

For anyone interested, Costco Kirkland brand is the best I have found. Very potent and the capsule is enteric so absolutely “No burp”.


29 posted on 08/31/2008 7:55:02 AM PDT by blasater1960 ( Dt 30, Ps 111, The Torah is perfect, attainable, now and forever)
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To: seacapn
I take fish oil daily. But this study to me is not significant. "Slightly better" against a placebo than Crestor against a placebo? The numbers are statistically the same:

Italian researchers gave nearly 3,500 patients a daily omega-3 pill, derived from fish oils. Roughly the same number of patients were given placebo pills. Patients were followed for an average of four years. In the group of patients taking the fish oil pills, 1,981 died of heart failure or were admitted to the hospital with the problem. In the patients on placebo pills, 2,053 died or were admitted to the hospital for heart failure. In a parallel study, the same team of Italian doctors gave 2,285 patients the drug rosuvastatin, also known as Crestor, and gave placebo pills to 2,289 people. Patients were then tracked for about four years. The doctors found little difference in heart failure rates between the two groups. Comparing the results from both studies, the researchers concluded that fish oil is slightly more effective than the drug because the oil performed better against a placebo than did Crestor.

It seems the difference in numbers is not even worth mentioning, and cannot be directy linked to fish oil. I would rather have seen a study between Crestor and fish oil directly.

30 posted on 08/31/2008 8:03:01 AM PDT by exit82 (People get the government they deserve--and they are about to get it --in spades.)
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To: seacapn

Don’t take too much fishoil as ovedose of the ‘vitamin A’ can be lethal. I think some early explorers found out the hard way.


31 posted on 08/31/2008 8:07:34 AM PDT by anglian
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To: Nea Wood
I’ve been taking cod liver oil, but boy, it’s vile stuff. I have to hold my nose when I take it.

Emulsified Norwegian Cod Liver Oil Mint flavored

32 posted on 08/31/2008 8:08:44 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: anglian
Don’t take too much fishoil as ovedose of the ‘vitamin A’ can be lethal. I think some early explorers found out the hard way.

Don't eat polar bear liver; it contains a leathal dose of vitamin A.

33 posted on 08/31/2008 8:26:46 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Drill Here. Drill Now. Pay Less.)
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To: Renfield

I try to make sure the fish oil is not rancid, and keep it in the fridge. Seems to help with the burps.


34 posted on 08/31/2008 8:38:17 AM PDT by MetaThought
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To: sneakers

I would throw them away if they smell fishy!


35 posted on 08/31/2008 8:40:05 AM PDT by MetaThought
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To: seacapn; All

Folks, just make sure you get enough Vitamin E (preferably a full spectrum one) if you take fish oil. Mail me for more info.


36 posted on 08/31/2008 9:05:19 AM PDT by MetaThought
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To: anglian
Don’t take too much fishoil as ovedose of the ‘vitamin A’ can be lethal.

Always check the labels, just to be safe, but fish oil generally does not contain Vitamin A. You can take as much fish oil as you want without worrying about a Vitamin A overdose. You do need to be aware that fish oil does thin the blood so be careful when combining it with an aspirin program or prescription blood thinners.

Cod Liver Oil is a different story. Cod Liver Oil is high in Vitamin A so you need to be careful with the dosage.
37 posted on 08/31/2008 12:14:13 PM PDT by goldfinch
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To: Victor

Red yeast rice is next on my list....the doctor was holding off till I got use to the Omega-3 and Niacin.


38 posted on 08/31/2008 1:13:20 PM PDT by Guenevere
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To: blasater1960

Sam’s has a combination oil made from fishoil, flaxseed and something else. I think it is a better product than fishoil alone.


39 posted on 09/01/2008 7:18:25 AM PDT by csmusaret (McCain and Obama represent the evil of two lessers.)
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To: cmsgop
My Doctor just told me to get some of that. Where do you buy it?

I get mine in the vitamin section in my supermarket....in this case, either Shoprite or Stop 'n' Shop.

It seems to be commonly available.

40 posted on 09/01/2008 7:05:27 PM PDT by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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