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The Politics Of Blood (The Left's Descent Into Total Derangement Alert)
First Things ^ | 9/1/2008 | Joseph Bottum

Posted on 09/02/2008 6:58:28 PM PDT by goldstategop

Film-maker Michael Moore has apparently praised the gulf weather for its chance of disrupting the Republican convention: “This hurricane is proof that there is a god in heaven.” Another low point in politics, though possibly one that could be passed off with a laugh—a partisan irony, rather than a serious derangement.

But over on the leftist Daily Kos website, there is a post that sinks much lower—so low that it caused many of the commentators to denounce it. Which led another commentator to make this remark:

I am prepared to do whatever is necessary to destroy the Republican Party as it exists today as well as everything it stands for.

If health insurance for all, an end to the Iraq War, an end to torture and illegal wiretapping, and a sane energy policy can be obtained at the price of destroying one teenage girl, her family, and the surrendering our self-respect I see that as a cheap trade.

Go talk about nobility of purpose to those 4,000+ dead American soldiers in Iraq.

Indeed, as another comment added:

This is about Power . . . How it is obtained—and how it is wielded in ways that affects all of us.

Are you telling me that you would not use character-destroying lies to ensure a war against Iran does not occur?

Are you telling me you would not spread lies about a man’s integrity, even if it defeated a candidate who take away the right to choose?

Are you telling me you would not destroy the love a family holds for one another, even if it meant letting someone who would destroy the constitution become president?

None of use would use these tactics in a perfect world. It is not a perfect world. It is a fallen world. We have to judge costs and benefits, not moral absolutes. I know this is the way to fanaticism and destruction—believe me I do. But, when we face opponents such as the ones we face . . . what else is there for us to do?

What choice do we have? When faced with monsters, we have to be monstrous ourselves.

“When faced with monsters, we have to be monstrous ourselves.” Well, no, but even if it were so, think one step deeper: What happens when the monsters are merely in your mind? When they are ordinary politicians whose views you so strongly reject that you have to elevate them into monsters to explain to yourself why they could hold such mistaken views?

This is the blade by which politics turns to bloodshed.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008election; 2008rncconvention; blogosphere; cwii; dailykos; firstthings; josephbottum; left; liberalism; michaelmoore; moonbats; pds; sarahpalin; totalderangement; unhinged
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Judging by the "Daily Kos" comments, the lefty blogosphere has descended into total derangement. The inmates now run the Democrat asylum!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

1 posted on 09/02/2008 6:58:34 PM PDT by goldstategop
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To: Eaker; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; ApesForEvolution; archy; backhoe; bayouranger; Badray; Bear_Slayer; ...

Damn. Another CWII ping.


2 posted on 09/02/2008 7:03:46 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Obama: Carter's only chance to avoid going down in history as the worst U.S. president ever.)
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To: goldstategop
Which led another commentator keyboard commando to make this remark:

Fixed for accuracy.

3 posted on 09/02/2008 7:07:05 PM PDT by lowbridge ("I have never learned to fight for my freedom. I was only good at enjoying it" - Van Den Boogaard)
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To: FreedomPoster
To people like this I have but one thing to say.

"Bring it."

L

4 posted on 09/02/2008 7:09:28 PM PDT by Lurker (She's not a lesbian, she doesn't whine, she doesn't hate her country, and she's not afraid of guns.)
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To: Lurker
Its ok to engage in the politics of personal destruction if it eliminates the Palins and neutralizes the threat of the Republican Party to the Left's all consuming quest for power.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

5 posted on 09/02/2008 7:11:30 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

No going back folks. We win this one or we are gone.

Call your congressman. Every one of them should be out stumping for our ticket. McCain/Palin lose and they might as well start passing out the Kool Aid amongst themselves.


6 posted on 09/02/2008 7:12:12 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: goldstategop
I am prepared to do whatever is necessary to destroy the Republican Party as it exists today as well as everything it stands for.

If health insurance for all, an end to the Iraq War, an end to torture and illegal wiretapping, and a sane energy policy can be obtained at the price of destroying one teenage girl, her family, and the surrendering our self-respect I see that as a cheap trade.

It's comments that make me wish for four years of Augusto Pinochet to clean out the trash.

keep poking the bear idiots and one day you will get the backlash from the American people that you deserve

7 posted on 09/02/2008 7:13:55 PM PDT by Charlespg (Peace= When we trod the ruins of Mecca and Medina under our infidel boots.)
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To: Charlespg

like


8 posted on 09/02/2008 7:14:41 PM PDT by Charlespg (Peace= When we trod the ruins of Mecca and Medina under our infidel boots.)
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To: lowbridge

AUT PAX AUT BELLUM.


9 posted on 09/02/2008 7:15:11 PM PDT by redstateconfidential ("Go to the mattresses")
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To: FreedomPoster

They only get away with this crap because we’re not allowed to shoot em.................yet.


10 posted on 09/02/2008 7:18:52 PM PDT by Squantos ((Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: FreedomPoster; goldstategop

These people truly are domestic enemies.


11 posted on 09/02/2008 7:23:15 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: goldstategop

There are plenty of examples in history where people thought it was OK to say and do anything to achieve political power ... to vilify, demonize, and lie to attain power and to deny the humanity, values, and rights of others.

It never turns out well.


12 posted on 09/02/2008 7:42:11 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Lurker
To people like this I have but one thing to say. "Bring it."

Well said.

13 posted on 09/02/2008 7:42:15 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Strategery & Shardenfreude = Stratenshardenfreudery)
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To: Squantos
We're just about past Claires 'akward stage' aren't we.

L

14 posted on 09/02/2008 7:43:50 PM PDT by Lurker (She's not a lesbian, she doesn't whine, she doesn't hate her country, and she's not afraid of guns.)
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To: goldstategop

This is nothing new for that ilk “The end justifies the means,” “You can’t have an omlette without breaking a few eggs.” These have always been the Left’s operating principles since Robespierre.


15 posted on 09/02/2008 7:45:08 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: Lurker

I think the RNC convention was the latest event that showed us that the Left is willing to cross all of the lines of civilization in order to have their way. Most of them are cowards and only do this because nobody stops them, and that includes the police, apparently, as well as any and all levels of government. The real Americans, therefore, have to take matters into their own hands. That is the only way this madness will be stopped. Specifically, anytime the Left resorts to violence and destruction, we should be there to return the favor 10-fold. We are only kidding ourselves if we believe we will prevail any other way.


16 posted on 09/02/2008 8:02:12 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Squantos

“America is at that awkward stage. It’s too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards.” - Claire Wolfe


17 posted on 09/02/2008 8:07:53 PM PDT by Screaming_Gerbil (How do you know that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash?)
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To: goldstategop
They don't have any self-respect. And for good reason, there is nothing within them worthy of the slightest respect.
18 posted on 09/02/2008 8:11:44 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: Screaming_Gerbil

Dang ....CW reads my posts ?........:o)

I like CW’s stuff......adding links to Wolfe’s works on my homepage here at FR soon.......lots of stuff there now including a few freebies !

Stay Safe and Enjoy .....critics welcomed !


19 posted on 09/02/2008 8:12:04 PM PDT by Squantos ((Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: goldstategop

“the left’s descent into total derangement”

the left has always been psychotic.

IMHO


20 posted on 09/02/2008 8:18:12 PM PDT by ripley
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To: Squantos
C is good people.

I wrote a couple of things for her back in the day....

L

21 posted on 09/02/2008 8:18:35 PM PDT by Lurker (She's not a lesbian, she doesn't whine, she doesn't hate her country, and she's not afraid of guns.)
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To: Lurker

Really ??

Cool !!


22 posted on 09/02/2008 8:20:44 PM PDT by Squantos ((Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

“No going back folks. We win this one or we are gone.”

We win this one or we have a civil war. It’s as simple as that.


23 posted on 09/02/2008 8:24:30 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Squantos

“They only get away with this crap because we’re not allowed to shoot em.................yet.”

:)


24 posted on 09/02/2008 8:25:48 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: fr_freak

“The real Americans, therefore, have to take matters into their own hands. That is the only way this madness will be stopped. Specifically, anytime the Left resorts to violence and destruction, we should be there to return the favor 10-fold. We are only kidding ourselves if we believe we will prevail any other way.”

That’s a fact.


25 posted on 09/02/2008 8:28:46 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Lurker

Yep....sorry I missed this ping earlier !

busy night !


26 posted on 09/02/2008 8:29:39 PM PDT by Squantos ((Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: goldstategop
“Judging by the “Daily Kos” comments, the lefty blogosphere has descended into total derangement. The inmates now run the Democrat asylum!”

Wouldn't that assume that at some point they weren't? Totally deranged that is.

27 posted on 09/02/2008 8:33:57 PM PDT by Valin
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To: goldstategop

The Republican response to the hurricane is proof that there is a McCain at the helm of this election campaign and advantage again goes to the Republicans.Not only did the Republican Convention NOT get drowned out but it was the center of the news more than it would have been without the hurricane. McCain stays two or three steps inside the of the Democrats’ loop at every turn. In fact he has the Democrat tailpipe in his Sparrow sights even now.


28 posted on 09/02/2008 8:37:06 PM PDT by arthurus (Od age and guile beats youth and enthusiasm.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

With McAmnesty, if it comes with McCain, we can win this one and we are still gone.


29 posted on 09/02/2008 8:40:01 PM PDT by arthurus (Od age and guile beats youth and enthusiasm.)
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We're just about past Claire's 'akward stage' aren't we.

Oh, yeah. The anarchists are attacking delegates physically and the Kos brats are talking about Whatever It Takes, meaning whatever they think they can get away with. Socialism is inherently murderous. When the university kids taste a little power and the exhilaration of crushing the Enemy there is no mercy because there is no sense of suffering, only moral righteousness and total power. The kiddies love Che because there's a little of Che in each and every one of them. Mostly they grow out of it. Some don't. Those who don't grow to have a taste for execution. Che certainly did.

These are cheery assassins smirking behind the anonymity of a keyboard, at least at the moment. When it's safe to come out, they will. And they will excuse acts of appalling cruelty and inhumanity with a pious reference to higher truth, just as they are excusing character assassination and the filthiest of lies at the moment, because they always have. It's all for something better, you see. A 17-year-old's life sacrificed for the Greater Good is justified. A few eggs must be broken to make an omelet. Only somehow the omelet never shows up, only the broken eggs.

But I think we're still in Wolfe's awkward stage. For now. It wouldn't hurt to purchase a little extra ammunition, though, against the day when the awkward stage is past. That sort of thing tends to come on well before the people in it are ready.

30 posted on 09/02/2008 8:46:59 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: goldstategop
Are you telling me you would not destroy the love a family holds for one another, even if it meant letting someone who would destroy the constitution become president?

My favorite.

31 posted on 09/02/2008 8:50:58 PM PDT by Archon of the East (Universal Executive Power of the Law of Nature)
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To: ought-six
WOLVERINES!!!
32 posted on 09/02/2008 8:53:40 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Nobody owes you a living. Now shut up and get back to work Obama..)
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To: arthurus
With McAmnesty, if it comes with McCain, we can win this one and we are still gone.

This is the sad reality. Lieberman made it clear that his support for McCain is based largely on McCain's support of Lieberman's liberal positions on amnesty, campaign reform, global warming, etc.

McCain's election could be a Pyrrhic victory which doesn't even slow our decent into big government liberalism and cultural destruction.

33 posted on 09/02/2008 9:00:01 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: goldstategop; Pride in the USA; Stillwaters

This is the face of the new Democratic party. This is who they are, this is what they do.


34 posted on 09/02/2008 9:03:07 PM PDT by lonevoice (John McCain was a Kinoki foot pad in the Reagan Revolution)
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To: Billthedrill; Noumenon; Jeff Head; Squantos; Travis McGee
>i>If health insurance for all, an end to the Iraq War, an end to torture and illegal wiretapping, and a sane energy policy can be obtained at the price of destroying one teenage girl, her family, and the surrendering our self-respect I see that as a cheap trade.

Words fail me. In a rational world a creature such as this would....

L

35 posted on 09/02/2008 9:17:26 PM PDT by Lurker (She's not a lesbian, she doesn't whine, she doesn't hate her country, and she's not afraid of guns.)
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To: Lurker

Watching Susan Estrich (sp?) on FNC defending Palin and saying she is sickened by her colleague’s attacking the teen !

Who knew that ole skank had a heart ~!


36 posted on 09/02/2008 9:21:52 PM PDT by Squantos ((Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: goldstategop

“When they are ordinary politicians whose views you so strongly reject that you have to elevate them into monsters to explain to yourself why they could hold such mistaken views? “

Actually they have to elevate them into monsters to justify to themselves their own being monsters, It’s nothing but psychological projection.


37 posted on 09/02/2008 9:26:55 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Lurker

Let me be direct about this. This is the sort of mindset that’s going to make it that much easier for me to do what needs to be done when the time arrives. Without mercy. Without remorse.

These idiots have no idea what’s waiting for them.


38 posted on 09/02/2008 9:32:39 PM PDT by Noumenon (Time for Atlas to shrug - and to pick up a gun)
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To: goldstategop

To the left assassination has always been seen as a legitimate political tactic.


39 posted on 09/02/2008 9:32:47 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Billthedrill

We’re closer to Claire Wolfe’s Time than we think.


40 posted on 09/02/2008 9:36:08 PM PDT by Noumenon (Time for Atlas to shrug - and to pick up a gun)
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To: Noumenon

I’m in denial. We’ve had this conversation before, both face to face and over the ‘net, and you’ve been right most of the time. I don’t like it when you’re right.


41 posted on 09/02/2008 9:40:21 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Noumenon; Lurker; Squantos; Travis McGee; ought-six
Gentlemen, if it's time ... it's time to be quiet.

I truly hope and pray that it never comes down to it, but I fear you all may be right.

42 posted on 09/02/2008 9:49:36 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Strategery & Shardenfreude = Stratenshardenfreudery)
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To: Noumenon
Without mercy.

It would be a mercy to.

L

43 posted on 09/02/2008 9:49:42 PM PDT by Lurker (She's not a lesbian, she doesn't whine, she doesn't hate her country, and she's not afraid of guns.)
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To: Billthedrill
I'd prefer not to be right about this. We've skirted the edge of the all-out before, but it's never been this close. How much more will we tolerate? How much more can we tolerate?

Or will we look back and say, "There's where we missed our chance?"

44 posted on 09/02/2008 10:10:58 PM PDT by Noumenon (Time for Atlas to shrug - and to pick up a gun)
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To: Prokopton

Big government liberalism or outright socialism.


45 posted on 09/02/2008 11:13:58 PM PDT by arthurus (Od age and guile beats youth and enthusiasm.)
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To: Billthedrill
Only somehow the omelet never shows up, only the broken eggs.

Ah, yes, the famous "Omelet ala Marx" recipe... Millions of "eggs" broken, worldwide, hundreds of "kitchens" ruined, AND NOBODY HAS EVER SEEN ANYTHING EVEN REMOTELY RESEMBLING A FREAKIN OMELET, to date!!

Isn't it past time for this tired, old, worthless recipe to be discarded?

the infowarrior

46 posted on 09/03/2008 1:56:22 AM PDT by infowarrior (“Let the voters decide if Palin is laughable.”-Tublecane)
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To: Noumenon
We’re closer to Claire Wolfe’s Time than we think.

Undoubtedly. I don't expect to see the other side of it, but I've had a good run, fall fair, or fall foul. My one last hope is "to pay ferryman's fee"...

the infowarrior

47 posted on 09/03/2008 1:59:30 AM PDT by infowarrior (“Let the voters decide if Palin is laughable.”-Tublecane)
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To: Charlespg
It's comments that make me wish for four years of Augusto Pinochet to clean out the trash.

Whenever the Left gets too much power, it always ends as Indonesia 1965, or Cambodia 1975.

The Left in this country would be very, very lucky to provoke a Pinochet. A Suharto is much more likely.

48 posted on 09/03/2008 2:00:33 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When He rolls up His sleeves, He ain't just puttin' on the Ritz)
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To: Noumenon
I'd prefer not to be right about this. We've skirted the edge of the all-out before, but it's never been this close. How much more will we tolerate? How much more can we tolerate?

Any sane man would prefer that you not be right in your assessment, Noumenon, but the commentary from these fools demonstrates that sanity is a commodity in very short supply, and dwindling fast. What is going to happen, will happen, and when that final line is crossed, then we know what our response must be.

When "the Day" dawns, and there's no other possible response, I will have to gird my loins, pick up that which is necessary for that Day, and go forth, with the words of Martin Luther on my lips...

"Here I stand, for I can do no other, and may God help me!"

the infowarrior

49 posted on 09/03/2008 2:10:52 AM PDT by infowarrior (“Let the voters decide if Palin is laughable.”-Tublecane)
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To: Centurion2000

“I truly hope and pray that it never comes down to it....”

So do I.


50 posted on 09/03/2008 5:59:32 AM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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